Let's get real, I mean really real!! - Queen Sized (2008) Discussion

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[–] PinkBunniesRuleTheWorld 16 years ago

I have to disagree with you. You can be proud of being smart, but when you're fat you can't be proud of your body, because your weight is unhealthy. You can't be proud of being unhealthy! You say skinny bitches only care about being thin.. wel guess again. I'm a size 2/4, my sister is a 0/2. We care about how we look, and we want(have!) to be skinny! Does that make us stupid? No. My sister is 23 years old with a superfisor job AND she has a bachelor degree. I'm going to college myself. In my county less then 20% of the population goes to college. So what happened with being thin = being stupid?

Looking good and have a nice figure(being slim) just makes things easier, plus you have a healthy weight. I just think when someone is slim it makes the world a more beautiful place :)

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[–] av2009 16 years ago

A) Being slim doesn't automatically make you healthy.

B) What's up with your screen name, are you and your sister like kinky Playboy bunnies?

C) You might want to ask for extra help from an English professor at your college. The last time I checked, "well" had two L's and "supervisor" wasn't spelled with an "f."

Beauty doesn't have to be measured in pounds! Take pride in yourself, no matter what your body type is!

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[–] PinkBunniesRuleTheWorld 16 years ago

@sugardumpling2309

A) True, but not automatically. There is no direct relationship between having a slim physique and health risks. Weighing too much on the other hand is linked with an increased risk for developing many health problems such as:
- Type 2 diabetes
- Coronary heart disease and stroke
- Metabolic syndrome
- Certain types of cancer
- Sleep apnea
- Osteoarthritis
- Gallbladder disease
- Fatty liver disease
- Pregnancy complications

B) Very good question. As a matter of fact: yes we are 'kinky playboybunnies', we like to parade around naked with our big tits, blond hair and bunny-ears to annoy Christian, sugary, fried doughballs.

C) Another witty comment! When unable to find a reasonable argument or retort, always respond with a comment about the OP's grammar, this will make YOU look infinately smarter!

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[–] piper5403 16 years ago

Just to throw my two cents in here:

I am a middle of the road person. I have some weight to lose, but I am not huge either.

I agree that being fat is unhealthy for people. It definitely does increase your health risks for all issues you listed as well as many more. I, however, don't necessarily feel being a size 0/2 or 2/4 is very healthy for someone unless they are very small in stature. Are you 5'0"? You say you "HAVE!" to be skinny. Are you starving yourself to stay that way? I think being slim or trim is good, but must you be "skinny?" What do you consider fat? Is a size 6 fat? Size 8?

I assume you are just being sarcastic with your B) answer. It was as immature as the spelling comment in C) if not more so. It actually proves the point of the commentor. It seems to completely negate the worth of your very valid A) comment. You seem to be exactly the catty type we are discussing here. (BTW, how can you be a size 0/2 and 2/4 and have big boobs unless they are fake?)

Lastly, in your retort for C) you spelled infinite incorrectly. I understand the person was being a little immature, but if you are going to have a response, you might want to make sure it has a punch instead of further proving her point!

It is wonderful that you and your sister are trying to further yourselves. I hope you will continue to do so. While you are, please keep in mind there are all sorts of different people in the world. They should all be treated with equal respect and kindness. If you want to be considered a well educated, smart person, it is better to prove your point without malice. Don't sink to childish sarcastic commentary. Thank you.

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[–] av2009 16 years ago

Commas should be inserted inside the quotation marks (you failed to use the necessary quotation marks and, in place, incorrectly placed apostrophes), and "infinately" is not spelled that way; it is "infinitely."

Don't explode your medical diarrhea at me, sweet pea. You're not the only graduate here.

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[–] Spitfire_Swe 16 years ago

It is very interesting that you, if anyone, not only once, but twice, attack the individual -just as people do to you because of your weight- when the person actually had a point and just because you can't counter argue. I would have thought that you, if anyone, would refrain from such idiotic behaviour. If you have nothing better to say than personal insults, don't reply.

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[–] Angiers 16 years ago

SOrry Pink Bunny person. That too is a myth.

Check it out>
http://www.obesitymyths.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13355-2004Nov25.html

Face it an overweight person who exercises, and eats a healthy diet actually live longer then their underweight counterparts.

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[–] whitespirit26 15 years ago

Face it, Spitfire: sugar dumpling had reasons to say what she did, and claiming that she did so because she couldn't counter-argue something as petty and asinine as Pink bunny's comments is even more stupid than..well, pink bunnie's comments.

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[–] beseme_ahora 14 years ago

@PinkBunniesRuleTheWorld: Actually dieting can give you just as many problems as being overweight.also if you lose a lot of weight at once or in short bursts it puts you in risk more than being fat. most people who diet have a yo-yo weight style, you lose then gain then lose, so on so forth. you can be overweight and healthy, if you keep active. People always think people are overweight because they must eat tons of food. Which is not true. Thyroid disorders AND being BORN with TYPE 2 DIABETES, yes you can be born with it. It leads to you being overweight if they don't catch it in time. I should know, I was born with TYPE 2 and now they believe I have a had a thyroid disorder. I keep very active and still can't get the weight off. I walk 1-5 miles a day depending on how long of a shift I work at work. I played sports in high school as well. I could care less what people think of my weight, I did at 5-11 years old. I even began puking trying to be thin, I got sick from that, and it's unhealthy. I exercised so much I messed my knee up, and was unable to walk for 1 month and then I limped for 3 weeks. Just because people said you should die, because I was overweight. Skinny people usually have the worst mental attitudes, not all but a lot. You shouldn't think just because I am different doesn't make me not human or less important than you. That's like saying because of my race I am less superior to you. The way you state everything just makes you seem unkind, you won't have much of a life you turn a blindside to different people like that. Being small or overweight can either be healthy or unhealthy depending on the situation. I am not necessarily criticizing you, I just think you should take the time to understand others situations before coming on a board. Thanks.

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[–] blanche52 12 years ago

Infinitely, not infinately.

So, you can't spell. You're thin so what does it matter, right?

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[–] brancy13 16 years ago

Are you crazy! Be skinny or fat is not a sign of health! Here in my country there is a skinny and beautiful actress and she worked out and "every other health thing" and at 48 she had a heart attack (almost died). Same way, there is a fat man, he is an interviewer and comedian in a TV show. He is fat and as health as you at 77.

So, what I'm trying to tell you is that genetics is everything. You can be as thin as you want, but if there is the genes in your family the chances you have a heart attack, diabetes or a stroke is very much a great possibility.

PS.: Sorry for the english.

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[–] panicatthewisco 16 years ago

Being unhealthy and being fat are two completely different things. The reason you're ignorant has nothing to do with how thin you are.

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[–] monki_sg 15 years ago

Sorry PinkBunnie, but I strongly disagree:

"You can be proud of being smart, but when you're fat you can't be proud of your body, because your weight is unhealthy.You can't be proud of being unhealthy!"

Why not? For starters you can be proud of whatever you want, and being proud of a human body, which is in itself a wonderful thing, is perfectly normal, and acceptable, in spite of how it looks (by the way being overweight doesn't necessarily mean not being good looking) or how healthy you are, and here I have to quote you again: "

"You can't be proud of being unhealthy!"

So, you are saying that if a person is not healthy, they can NOT be proud of their bodies?, then if you have cancer, diabetes (not necessarily produced by weight problems, you can have diabetes even if you are in your ideal weight), or any other disease, you do not have the right to be proud of your body, an extraordinarily amazing "machine" that keeps you alive (although it may have certain problems with certain functions)?

That is a very shallow thing to say, I find it outrageous, and sorry PinkBunnie, but if you really think that way (and I quoted you, so you can't argue a misunderstanding) you shouldn't be surprised people may include you in the silly skinny description, you're sadly proving that point

By the way, I noticed too your grammar and spelling problems,(although English is not my mother language) and as others pointed out they don't make you look as smart as you're trying to show you are, so be careful with those things when you post anything

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[–] silent-67 15 years ago

Dude, I'm 14 & because of people like you pinkbunnies i lost 30 lbs in 2 1/2 months. I was almost diagnoised with anorexia. I weigh 94 lbs, I'm 5'1 xs-shirt size 0 pants. Your a stuck up bitch! Sorry, but I gotta say it. It's people like you who make young girls feel like they HAVE to weight 70 pounds!

So, thank you to all the people who KNOW that weight DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU "HOT"! It's knowing that, that is my reason for trying to get back to a HEALTHY AVERAGE WEIGHT!

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[–] whitespirit26 15 years ago

Good God, pink bunnies. You clearly have no idea what real beauty is. But then, your name says it all...

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[–] saucyminxx 15 years ago

PinkBunniesRuleTheWorld: I just think when someone is slim it makes the world a more beautiful place :)

That has got to be the most stupid thing I have ever read. I think you just showed us what makes you stupid, and it was not your weight.

Also... I can kill you with my brain

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[–] bby-biitchface 15 years ago

I don't know where you got your education from, but wherever it happened to be, it certainly didn't pay off.

I completely disagree with everything you said because it was completely shallow and unwitted. You are a sod.

I am a 22 year old SLIM/SLENDER female. I'm about 5'1 and a good 97 lbs. And my slim figure certainly doesn't mean I'm healthy. I got to be this thin because I ended getting pneumonia and I went from a good 110 lbs to 97lbs. It's NOT healthy. I a level 8 anemic, and people are constantly wondering if I'm anorexic or bullemic. Being skinny doesn't make you healthy.

And you disproved your own points about not all skinny people NOT being stupid. Because you clearly cannot spell supervisor, or well. Which I'm sure has already been pointed out by other people that I'm sure you've pissed off.

And it doesn't matter how you look. Confidence carries you through 90% of your daily endeavors. You could be a large person and go into a club with that attitude that you are a hot momma and you own the world and I can guarantee that people are going to treat you exactly how you demand. The attitude you carry throughout life and exude is what attracts people to you. I know plenty of skinny girls that have mundane personalities (much like you seem to have proven you have) and they rarely do a good job at making and keeping friends. I have about 6 or 7 overweight girlfriends who date more than I ever did when I was single.

So the only thing you've succeed at is alienating people who have more reasons than yourself, to be pround :].

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[–] immortalbeloved0 16 years ago

There is a major difference that no one seemes to have addressed, between being a little chubby, and being underweight.

Being overweight is poor for your health. Be honest, you can say "I dont care what people think" all you want, but your focasing on one asepct of being over weight. I was quite the fat kid for quite a few years, I was tired, I was sick, I really just disliked myself.

SO I lost weight. By eating better, and now I walk everyday for 30 minutes. I feel so much better health wise and emotionally.

Being underweight is just as bad for a person. If you want to stay fit, then eat right and take some time of the day to do a walk. I walk in the evenings, where very little is going on with my day. But starving yourself and exercising to an extreme is just as bad as being overweight.

If you are overweight, and exersize, you eat well, and all that junk. You should be fine, assuming you do all the above. In reality, a Sumo Wreastler is more healthy then a Super Model. With the extreme work outs a Sumo goes through they have to be fit.

So I must say, being slender doesn't automatically make you beautiful or healthy and being overweight doesn't automatically make you ugly with heart disease.

I would also like to add, calling people 'skinny bitches' doesn't really add to your case. It makes you look spiteful.

I am slender yes, but does that mean I can't open a door?
Or that my only desire in life is to prance about in mini skirts and shove a 'more slender then thou' attitude at soemone?
No.
I have better things to do.

Things I'd Rather Do Then Worry About Looking Good:
-Read
-Photograph
-Draw
-Write
-Listen to Music
-Finish this damn math class

My weightloss was based on my own feelings. NO one elses.
I HATE when people stare at me.
I KNOW I have a large chest >< I can't help that.
Whatever I do in my life is based upon my own feelings, wants, and needs.

If you are proud of who you are, then continue, but calling people 'skinny bitches' is simply uncalled for and as I said before, spiteful and makes you sound more jealous of a slender person then you claim to be.

I am going to add a case for slender[or those more slender then yourself] people.

Happened to me, all true, yada yada.
I was with a friend at the local mall. It was around the Prom time, and loads of stores had out fancy dresses and the like. We went into one, and I am not really a dress person. I'd rather just show up in my cargo pants -_- but obviously that wasn't appropriate. So the first hour I just helped my friend look for her dress. Yes, she's a big girl. Is she obese? No, but she is a rather chubby girl. She was looking for a specific style dress, long and flowy with thick straps[hides the bra straps] and a bow or something at the waist.

Obviously thats a rather specific look, so I told her we can split up the store, I take one half, she takes the other[HUGE dress shop]. So she agreed and told me what size range dress to get and I went about looking. She wasn't pleased with what was available and decided to help me out when she was done trying the dresses on.

I just said "Oh you know I like blue and purple so anything like that" and told her my dress size. She got a really pissed look on her face, and stomped off to the dressing room. I asked her what was wrong and she said that she didn't like shoping with me because I was many sizes smaller then her and made her look bad in comparasion.

WTF?
O__o the hell with that?!
When we where eating at the food court she kept commenting that I don't eat a lot, when in fact I do eat quite a bit but I am more of a grazer and since I generally eat only small portions of the food I tend not to gain much weight along with the walks I do.

TO sum it up, the whole time I was with her she kept making comments on my eating habits. My weight, my looks etc..

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[–] ashley_davenport43560 16 years ago

I'm not trying to be rude but have you even tried to be lose weight? Being fat is a choice (unless it is caused by a medical condition). You are choosing to be fat and by choosing that lifestyle you should be prepared for all the negatives that come with it. Being thin is pretty much simple math. You need to burn more calories than you take in. exercise and eat better. By the way, not all skinny women are stupid. It's jealous people like you who want to talk sh*t about other women who are thin by saying they are overtanned, have boob jobs, and are stupid and then get pissed off when they do the very same thing to you. Do you think being fat makes you immune to being a hypocrite?

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[–] mec98 16 years ago

I have news for you, Ashley. Genetics plays a part in a person's weight. My brother and I were raised in the same house, ate the same food (he even ate more than I did!), and played the same games. He's been a stick all his life, and I've always struggled with my weight. I inherited my mother's body type (southern belle - they wore those big skirts for a reason), and my brother inherited my father's (automatic bean pole until hitting 30).

Am I saying that exercise does nothing for me? No. Am I saying I don't need it? No. Am I saying that I could starve myself and exercise until I drop and still never be as thin as my brother? Yes.

That's life, I guess. But if you think about it, isn't variety a good thing? God didn't make us all the same, and I'm glad of that. Just because Hollywood glamorizes the rail-thin doesn't make it the only way to be. In ancient Greece, someone that thin would never have been given a second glance. Curves meant wealth, and therefore beauty. Just because civilization (though I'm not convinced everyone here is civilized - and no, I'm not criticizing anyone in particular, just the nature of some of the comments on both sides) chooses to idolize thinness doesn't mean we all have to strive for it or die trying. As long as a person is healthy and happy, who cares about their weight? I've known women who are 4'10" and 100 lbs, and women 6' and 190 lbs.

Healthy, happy, and beautiful. Isn't that what really counts?

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Was today really necessary?

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[–] whitespirit26 15 years ago

Wow, another rail b*tch. Thanks for the display, Davenport.

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[–] Lamia7609 16 years ago

I've been fat my entire adult life. I started gaining weight around puberty. I was in track and cheerleading. It didn't matter how active I was I continued to gain weight, by the end of high school I had zero self esteem. When I look back I created a lot of the negativity I got by my own self loathing. My mom kept telling me if you act with confidence then people will respect you, but I didn't believe her. I wish I had. I wish I had known that high school wasn't going to mean a damn thing once I left it. I wouldn't have wasted so much energy being sad and depressed. I don't get too much crap anymore, but I do get the occasional "LARD ASS" yelled from a passing car. I couldn't be more amazed at how little that bothers me these days. Accepting yourself is by far the hardest thing to do and you have to do it fat or skinny.

People get mad at me when I talk about self-acceptance because they feel like I shouldn't love myself because I'm fat. I love who I am and being fat is just part of who I am. I don't have any health problems and never have. People use the health issue as a way to keep fat people in check. All kinds of people get diabetes, heart disease, etc not just fat people. Also, studies have shown that obese patients have a higher survivability rate than thinner patients.

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2006/12/obesity-paradox-2-how-can-it-be.html

This site has some good information check it out!

"Do not call the tortoise unworthy because she is not something else" -Whitman

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[–] kim-284 16 years ago

It's obvious Ashley (now THERE'S a blonde bimbo name for you! ) and PinkBunnies (these jokes just keep writing themselves! ) have NEVER been fat, and have NO clue about the humiliation you go through.

Why don't you two try wearing a fat suit on for a day, around people you don't know, and see what kind of cruel, hateful comments you get. That might be the education you need, instead of being so shallow and saying things you know nothing about. You might even get a well needed lesson in empathy.

You might have it easy since you are skinny, but how long do you think that will last? From your comments I derive that you are in your young twenties. Once you hit middle age and you don't look quite so good, and you start putting on weight, I think you might find more empathy for your fellow human being.

It is far easier to make judgements and say things like losing weight is basic math, than it is to actually execute said statements. Did you also know that counseling is usually in order, to deal with the trauma of people who castigate you for your size? You don't know that that person didn't go though some abuse or trauma in their lives that got them to turn to eating as a comfort. Others might have genetic problems that cause obesity. Bottom line, you have no idea, and it is none of your business as to why someone has a weight problem. The movie emphasized Maggie's low self esteem, and how she had to overcome it in the light of the jokes made about her, and pulled on her by the "popular kids" of the high school.

My sister was always skinny growing up, and she was always the sickly one. I was heavy growing up, and completely healthy. So, if overweight people have more health risks, how do you account for that? It's obvious you two are falling back on the "health issue" excuse to cover up your flip, idiotic statements.

I do feel very sorry for the two of you leading such shallow, obtuse lives. I hope you learn to be a bit deeper than you have shown yourselves to be.

Fat comments are off color. Say the same thing about another ethnicity & you would have a lawsuit.

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[–] monki_sg 15 years ago

Darl_Kaado, what kim-284 is trying to say is that it is terrible that a person gets insulted and treated badly just because of his/her weight, and that this treatment is that bad that it is punished regarding other criteria (ethnicity for example), so why allow it to be inflicted upon overweight people?

That's what makes it awful, you shouldn't get insulted or mistreated on terms of your race, sex, age, weight, sexual preference or religious beliefs, even when you could or could not change it, (by the way I don't see why you could wish to change your ethnicity , its not a disease or something you have to hopelessly suffer, now that sounds somehow racist). You as a human being, and simply as a living being as well deserve to be treated with respect!!

kim-284's commentary was not racist, neither subtle nor open, it just states plain an simple, that hate is hate, regardless of the target, and haters will always find a new reason to go on

What we, as society, as humans, need to do is stop hate, and start respecting

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[–] ShizaMinelli 15 years ago

I love how you want to call out someones "flip idiotic statements" while calling them "blonde bimbos"! You know no more about them then they do about you, so you have as much right to make ASSumptions about their looks and why they are the way they are than they do about you. Your whole post was wildly hypocritical from the beginning.

The people who are saying its simple math are absolutely right. I understand that there are psychological reasons why people eat, yet we seem to find it perfectly acceptable to make nasty comments about skinny people now when they could have the same type of psychological issues with food, just towards a different extreme. Its skinny people that are the last acceptable group to insult now. First gay people became hip, and now as America gets fatter larger size people are "victims of genes" and not simply taking in less calories than they burn in a day, and thin people get to be called "anorexic" or told to "eat a cheeseburger" and its perfectly acceptable.

And before you tell me I don't know "how it really is ", I am 6'2" and currently weigh 250, which is down from my peak weight of 330 nine months ago. I went through the comments, the stares, the teasing...and then I CHOSE to do something about it. My doctor was in the "maybe its genetic" line of thought, but all I did was start looking at labels, being active, and not snacking. The only hard part is getting some willpower...but just go friggin' do it!

Ingrid Bergman had Paris, my pussycat has crabs

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[–] Britrock16 16 years ago

If there is one group of people I dont feel sorry for it is fat and overweight people because quiet honestly it is one thing a person has complete control over. If you are uncomfortable with your weight then workout and excersize and stay healthy. Its really not that hard, but yes it does take commitment. I have grown up with a family of health conscience people and I can tell you none of us are "skinny bitches" we are slender and in shape do to our own hard work and dedication.

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[–] camip14 16 years ago

I think the point that the OP made and that you are totally missing is that SHE is NOT uncomfortable with her weight. She likes herself and is happy with herself regardless of her weight and she presents herself to the world that way. It is the shallow people such as pinkbunniesrule, yourself, and most popular media that are the uncomfortable ones. You are uncomfortable with the fact that she loves and accepts herself and that she won't listen to your negative message that she shouldn't be happy and that she should hide herself away in shame.

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[–] ShizaMinelli 15 years ago

Her "liking herself" the way she is doesn't make it any less unhealthy. A smoker could "like themselves" the way they are, but it oesnt change the health risks that are still obviously there.

And honestly, the defensive comments are coming across far ruder than the people who were simply disagreeing w/the OP. PinkBunnies only became rude after she was provoked and called a "bimbo", and even then barely so. It would seem that a group of people that always have insults thrown their way b/c of peoples snap judgements wouldn't be so hypocritical and turn around and do the same thing back...

Ingrid Bergman had Paris, my pussycat has crabs

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[–] whitespirit26 15 years ago

Shiza, you sound like another ignorant idiot. No one here was snapped at until after they became rude and said downright inappropriate things. We get that because you were overweight you think you apparently have wisdom here, but empathy and discernment are not among any abilities you possess. If you don't respect fat people and write them off as unhealthy, you're more than welcome to keep your mouth shut and just stay away from them.

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[–] corwin111 16 years ago

Ok then... since we're being real...

First of I would like to say that the following goes mostly for people who were not born fat. The rest of you... it's just not your fault and I have nothing against you.

Now let's get REALLY REALLY REALLY real! How many of you fat people, when other kids at school were sayng "I wanna be a police man", "I wanna be a super model" "I wanna be an astronaut"... just how many of you said "well I wanna be fat! Cuz that's something I can be proud of!".

I generally destain people who exhibit pride over things, not of their own making. Like if someone says "I'm proud of my country." it sounds pretty stupid to me... especially because I mostly hear it from people who have never even voted :D Being proud of anything else than your own accomplishments is the most distasteful form of utter hipocrisy! But when I hear a fat person say "I'm proud to be fat!" it just makes me sit there and stare in disbelief.

Being fat is the ultimate anti-accomplishment! You won't ever see an over-weight wild animal. Obesity is something you do to yourself when you live a life, so much in discourse with nature that you make your body grow in ways that nature never intended for it. How can you be proud of something like that? How can you stand up and honestly say that you are proud of intentionally making yourself hard to move, unattractive and prone to heart disease... O_o

Nope... dear friends you are not proud. You HATE being fat... it eats you up inside... and the saddest thing is that you CAN change. You're just too lazy and weak willed to want to! You have buried your self-hate under layers and layers of lies... intended to convince yourselves that afterall it's not so bad... you love yourself just the way you are... it's what's inside that matters and so on...

My hat's off to those fat people who stand up and say "I don't wanna be fat! I want to change! And I have the capacity and will to change!" What disgusts me and most people about the rest of you is actually not the way you look... it's the way you feel about it.

I'm generally not a cruel person... And I realise that all I just said will offend people and make some mad, for which I sincerely apologise. But that's what "getting really really real" feels like :( And in the end if even one of you looks past the "hating me" part and tries to comprehend and explore what has been said, I will have accomplished my goal. And believe it or not - in the long run I will have helped one person to become TRULY happy!

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[–] Gracie88 16 years ago

First of all, I'll say that it doesn't matter what dress size you are, as long as you are healthy. If you are to the point where your weight is affecting your physical being than steps need to be taken to maintain a healthy life.

I agree with corwin111. Especially this:

You have buried your self-hate under layers and layers of lies... intended to convince yourselves that afterall it's not so bad... you love yourself just the way you are... it's what's inside that matters and so on...

It's true. People are normally very critical and cruel when it comes to seeing their body image but at the same time, we dim things down. We make ourselves believe that it's really not as a bad as it seems. That idea only grows with time and it only gets harder to face the reality of your condition (obesity).
Sure, we have to have a certain level of self-confidence, but it is also to balance into the equation what other people think. You can say all you want that you don't care what others think of your looks, but it really is important. Especially in trying to get jobs and what not. We will always care what other people think about us. Those who say they don't, are flat out lying.

On the other hand, we DO have distorted image of what is healthy/pretty. At the same time obesity levels are going up, so are eating disorders like annorexia and bulemia. And it's not always the fault of an obese person as to how they got there. It could have been genetic, maybe depression or emotional problems played into it. The lack of family support could also have a lot to do with it. All of these problem are extremely hard to overcome.

It is very cruel for people to think that they can just get over being fat with diet and exercise. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. We are not all wired that way. You can't say that it's the fault of the person itself because so many other factors play into being overweight. That's just like saying all smokers/ drug users should just suck it up and stop. We ALL know it's not that simple. Food for obese people is an addiction just like heroin is for drug addicts. So stop belittling their stand point.

"Don't mess with people who serve your food." ~Waiting

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[–] mikelee-1 16 years ago

Eek that is a sad article :(

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[–] panicatthewisco 16 years ago

Wow, thank you for that article. Incredibly sad and enlightening.

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[–] whitespirit26 15 years ago

Gosh Corwin, I'm sure all the overweight people here will write you a formal apology for being a disruptance in your way of thinking and an offense to your eyesight. Thank you for your incredible patience with them.

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[–] pinkprincess08 16 years ago

To the people who say losing weight is so easy listen here. I was 174 pounds. I am 5'4. That means I was 29 pounds overweight. I used to be 120 (before I had my son) I gained 54 pounds when I was pregnant. After I had my son I was depressed all the time about my body. I hated myself! I wanted to die. I hated going shopping or going out in public. I got treated differently by people. It sucked! Anyways, I have been eating healthy (no soda, not even diet, no fast food) I drink lots of water, eat tons of veggies, eat only between 1200-1550 calories a day, workout 5 times a week for 45 mins. It's been eight months of this. I have only lost 19 pounds. Yes, I am happy about the weight loss but I ams sick of hearing people say how easy it is. It's not easy! It takes hard work!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, why do people focus so much on the outside appearance? It's what is inside that counts. We are all human and we all deserved to be treated as such!!! I have every right to be proud of my body. By the way even though I have lost weight it never changed who I was, it just changed how I look. Treat other's how you would want them to treat you!!!!!!!!

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[–] huggledemon24 15 years ago

I am an overweight woman and have been since I hit puberty- before that I was a beanpole. My sister is a slender woman within her healthy weight range. I have read all the posts written here so far and can see points in many of them- however my two cents is this:

YES I would like to be thinner, because it makes life so much easier- more mobility, clothes are cheaper, easier to find and often more fashionable, various illnesses would be less of a concern and so on.

HOWEVER it really pisses me off when people say "it's simple maths- just take in less calories than you burn!" because lets face it- that is NOT all that is involved- there are deep psychological and often medical issues there as well!
Depression, low self-esteem, various physical illnesses etc....

Having people constantly put you down can make you feel worthless and useless and decreases your ability to believe in yourself and thus your ability to lose the weight in the first place. I spent the first 11 years of my life not worrying about ANYTHING that I ate, playing many types of sports (hockey, swimming, sailing, horseriding, archery, and gymnastics) and when I hit a certain age it all changed- it happened slowly, and i often wish I could go back in time and stop it all before it began because believe me it now seems overwhelming and impossible!

I don't approve of people who are underweight, however I acknowledge that there are individuals out there who are naturally skinny and fight to keep weight on.

I guess all my babbling on comes down to this!

Overweight people have a right to feel proud of themselves!
Weight issues are complex and NOT just a matter of taking in less calories than you burn off- nothing that involves both our psyches AND our bodies is EVER that simple.

Overweight people have a right to be respected for who they are and putting them down might make others feel better, but if people truly believe they are saying these hurtful things to be really really real and help people such as myself- then let me tell you, that they sorely mistaken- putting us down for being overweight will not solve the problem- only compound it! (and no I am not saying we should be PRAISED for being overweight- just that we should not be disrespected for it)

We have a right to exist as we are, our bodies are constantly in a state of change, others know what has happened to us in our lives, or what thoughts are going through our minds, we are just as witty, intelligent, interesting and so forth as our more slender counterparts!

ok I am now getting down off my soapbox and removing the chip from my shoulder!*grin*

5kgs down, 75 to go!
Team Jasper
Keeper of "The Cure" & MSJ's Stubble
"Bite Me!" Buffy.
"Out of my mind- back in five minutes!"

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