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This Friday ep 10: “The Vampiric Puppet Lamentation”


AIRED: 8/18/08

To prevent the resurrection of every vampire that has ever lived, The Middleman and Wendy search for a possessed puppet that once belonged to Vlad the Impaler. Meanwhile, Noser pulls a disappearing act.

(Methinks if you're a fan of the latest vampire trend, and the Muppet show, this must be the episode for you!)

STARRING

Matt Keeslar
The Middleman

Natalie Morales
Wendy Watson

Brit Morgan
Lacey Thornfield

Mary Pat Gleason
Ida

Jake Smollett
Noser

Drew Tyler Bell
Pip

Sean Davis
Joe 90

Gideon Emery
Vladdy

Annabelle Milne
Jamie

Rob Nagle
Renfield Rehnquist

Steve Valentine
Nikolas Pherides

Vic Chao
Dr. Juddv

Boris Kievsky
Oliverv

John O'Brien
Newscaster

Fred Ochs
Chaplain

Sadie Stratton
Elizabeth Rousset

Scarlett Chorvat
Irena Dubrovna

Michael Oosterom
Guest Star

Jason Chambers
Anvil

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(Methinks if you're a fan of the latest vampire trend, and the Muppet show, this must be the episode for you!)
No to vampires and yes to The Muppet Show, so we'll see.

I know this can't possibly happen, but it would be cool if the puppet in question turned out to be the Count from Sesame Street. I can see me sitting in the basement saying, "I don't like to vatch zese silly episodes, I like to count zem!"

Vun! Vun boring episode!
Two! Two boring episodes!
HA HA HA HA!
Three! Three boring episodes....

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by dtmuller » 6 hours ago (Fri Jan 24 2014 05:59:52)
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ep 10: “The Vampiric Puppet Lamentation”
(Methinks if you're a fan of the latest vampire trend, and the Muppet show, this must be the episode for you!)

No to vampires and yes to The Muppet Show, so we'll see

And how are you in the LAMENTATION department? (Har, har, har!)

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OK, first:

I can see me sitting in the basement...
As a member of the grammar police I must confess to the unutterable crime of using the objective instead of the reflexive. I hope I don't have to turn in my red pen.
And how are you in the LAMENTATION department?
Well, this whole series can be summed up with Lamentations 3:18 -- My endurance has perished.

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So, Noser is also a gifted ventriloquist. Good to hear that Young Noser was just his dummy, made of purest Karpathian wood. Any history buffs know the connection between Vlad the Impaler and the Greek island of Karpathos? I sure don't but that sounded like such a specific requirement that it's gotta have some story behind it.

Wendy looked like she was enjoying that auction. Having not only access to the funds to buy everything on the block, but also the mandate to do so.

Best 1-off gag of the ep.: Ida chilling in the iron maiden. That would have gotten old fast had they kept doing it, but a single time it was hilarious.

Should I have recognized the bald guy who quit the contest when he heard Noser would be competing? I could swear I've seen his dummy somewhere before.

The punch spinning the vampire-puppet's head and its manic laughter that followed were an obvious reference to a well known horror film but I can't quite place it. I'm nowhere near confident, but I want to say one of the Chucky movies.

The best pop culture reference, however, has got to be my favorite of the entire series as it's the most awesome out-of-context Bon Jovi song reference ever: "You give love a bad name." That "gotcha" line shows how much Dubby's improved since "Swift justice!" She shoots. She scores.

Great use of crossbow pistols (Or should they be called pistol crossbows?) loaded with Young Noser arms of the purest Karpathian wood!

That Pip is a loathsome creature of the worst order. Invading Lacey's MM sex dreams like that. I don't blame her for being such a cold-blooded tease at the end. It was, after all, for a good cause.

They really do need to go ahead and hook MM and Lacey up as a couple. I'll bet even Wendy would be fine with it at this point.

Loved it! 9 green punch recipes which yield 9 gallons each.

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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by bob-402-252005 » The punch spinning the vampire-puppet's head and its manic laughter that followed were an obvious reference to a well known horror film but I can't quite place it. I'm nowhere near confident, but I want to say one of the Chucky movies.

The only head-spinning scene I remember at the moment is that from The Exorcist (1973). Which, of course, was done with a puppet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrQ0scRm8O4

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Nothing much in this episode – just another routine storyline. Well, except for the fact that we learn that MM and Lacey are true lovers and they actually get married (though only MM remembers it – for now.) And we discover he has another true love as well. (But please tell me it isn’t Wendy.) We also find out that Noser is the world’s greatest ventriloquist, even capable of winning a contest with an armless dummy. And that Pip is a jerk – oh, wait, we already knew that.

Kidding aside, this was a pretty good ep. The real stars were the two creepy puppets – Vlad and his true love Elizabeth, whose blood was spilled onto their puppet creations and their souls trapped inside. We even get a brief glimpse of Middleman and Lacey puppets when their beings switch places and turn the puppets real. All of it fun to watch.

Things I liked: The card reader who got everything wrong (except when she briefly channeled the Underworld, where she was dead on.) Perfect casting of Steve Valentine – he looked like just the type who would greet you at a vampire memorabilia auction, and he played everything up just right. Lacey being flustered by her mysterious sex dream about Pip. Clearly her subconscious was trying to help her forget about MM by placing a repulsive face on his image. Unfortunately for her, it has the opposite effect of making her think she secretly wanted Pip. Pip pulling his phony sympathy for Noser routine after failing miserably on every other interview. And hopefully, another shot at happiness for MM and Lacey, though there’s only two episodes for them to try.

Also liked: The insane ventriloquist who can only talk with literal hand puppets, and Wendy’s annoyance when she has to resort to the same thing to get her question answered. The whole twisted logic of the storyline. Vlad bites MM and gains his knowledge, thus knowing he’s truly in love with Lacey for the wedding ceremony. Wendy’s firing of Young Noser’s arms of Carpathian wood into the revived Vlad and Liz to kill them off and break the spell. Nicely played. Didn’t even mind the use of the “clueless in front” gag this week. Here, it wasn’t used as a joke to show that Lacey didn’t notice Pip in the background, but rather as a plot device to show that Pip was totally incapable of getting an answer out of anyone he talked to - without breaking the rhythm of the show to do it. That was clever.

Didn’t like: saying that the crazy ventriloquist had to have his arm cut off to get Vlad off of him. Seemed a little extreme, especially since everyone else who handled the puppet in the episode escaped totally unscathed. Not all the gags worked, but most of them did. I’m not a vampire fan, though I like them better than zombies, but I found this all entertaining nonetheless.

Random thoughts: We now know for sure MM is wearing an Eisenhower jacket. I was glad to see Ethan wasn’t in this episode – only because I noted he was listed in just 5 episodes. Since he’d already been in 3 episode, I was afraid that might meant a break-up in episode 11, But instead he’s simply absent with official leave this week.

This was a fun episode. I give it 8 creepy puppets and an A.

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Vlad bites MM and gains his knowledge, thus knowing he’s truly in love with Lacey for the wedding ceremony.


Also loved his explanation for the vampire-puppet bite bandage.
MM: "I cut myself shaving."
Lacey: "What with? A machete?"
Who else immediately thought, "Straight razor."?

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PRE-VIEWING THOUGHTS

This Friday ep 10: “The Vampiric Puppet Lamentation”
This episode is about vampires and lamentation? How can we NOT make fun of it even before we start watching? Because of course, making fun is the only way to endure all the lamentation I've had so far.

Besides... "Meanwhile, Noser pulls a disappearing act."
Please, let him disappear for good! Let it be for good!

PRE CASE-OF-THE-WEEK IMPRESSIONS

- So the episode starts with some random girl talk in Wendy's apartment and I get bored to death counting the minutes until we get to the beginning of the "middle case," which is *really* when the episode starts. Oh, boy I wish this were a half-an-hour sow and they only showed us the things that matter. This time it took 6 long minutes and 40 seconds to get there.

- So, what if Noser is gone? I mean, you may not hate the character, but what does he have that makes him remotely likable. So far he has done nothing, except say Yo Wendy Watson a bunch of times, and exchanged a few words of hippie wisdom with the other characters. But of course, I shouldn't expect the show to fulfill its promise and actually kill Noser. That would be expecting too much.

THINGS THAT LEFT A GOOD POST-VIEWING IMPRESSION

- Ida's hippie lettuce
- Puppet Vlad turning into a bat puppet.
- The Middleman's means of communication with the insane ventriloquist.
- The Middleman's HQ has Einstein's brain.
- vampire puppet minions
- How odd: Young Noser is much more interesting than Old Noser.
- The Middle Puppet and Puppet Lacey
- Pip's car parked on the handicapped spot.
- I always thought Wendy was too self-absorbed to care or do something about MM's and Lacey's love feelings. Those two would maek an interesting couple, by the way. MM is a grown-up child sometimes, and Lacey is an airhead who has no judgment when it comes to men and lots of other things.
- We've learned more about the characters: MM loves another woman too, Lacey has the worst taste in men, Noser is an accomplished ventriloquist, and Pip has a tiny (at least) nice side.

THINGS THAT LEFT A NOT-SO-GOOD IMPRESSION

- Continuity error: Ida is holding a large stack of money and says, "Marked bills." Then the camera angle shifts, the stack magically shrinks and she says, "don't get any bright ideas."

- The moment the puppet started speaking (its voice and accent were just right!), I automatically thought of this:

I can see me sitting in the basement saying, "I don't like to vatch zese silly episodes, I like to count zem!"

I did see "me" laughing at that! Good call, dtmuller!

- I'm getting tired of repeating that The Middleman is ripping off Pushing Daisies. I really am. But then The Middleman (the show) doesn't seem to be getting tired of repeating itself, so why should I? Anyway, I just noticed The Middleman HQ looks enormously like The Bradbury, in Los Angeles. Which, you guessed right, served as the inspiration for the Liberty in Pushing Daises. Just compare:
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Mad-Pac/MMHQBradburyLiberty_z ps6ee0d6be.jpg

- The scene in which MM hold's Lizzie's "casket" and Vlad the puppet quietly emerges right behind him, honestly, looked like a scene from a Sesame Street skit. Vladdy looked as scary as the cookie monster.

- So we learn a lot more about Noser, but he still looks uninteresting. I'd say it's because almost all we've learned about him was TOLD (by his puppeting teacher) instead of SHOWN. It's the old SHOW VS. TELL rule. And we never got to see his act. And when he was going to do his act on tape, Lacey took the camera from Pip's hand.

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS + GRADE

I have to say when they don't make a stupid political or ethnic joke I already think the episode is winning because this show often has things that annoy me greatly, and this time that only happened mildly, and these problems are part of the show's DNA, so that's expected already. The absence of annoyances, the information we got on the characters, and the whimsical puppet vampire jokes push this one to the top of the pile so far. So, this one gets 7 stakes of the purest Carpathian wood.

COUNTDOWN

The end is nigh! Just two more. Yay!


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So far he has done nothing, except say Yo Wendy Watson a bunch of times, and exchanged a few words of hippie wisdom with the other characters.


"Yo, Wendy Watson" usually involves some pop culture reference, most often a song reference such as Spirit of Radio by Rush in one recent example.

- I'm getting tired of repeating that The Middleman is ripping off Pushing Daisies... ...Anyway, I just noticed The Middleman HQ looks enormously like The Bradbury, in Los Angeles. Which, you guessed right, served as the inspiration for the Liberty in Pushing Daises. Just compare:
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Mad-Pac/MMHQBradburyLiberty_z ps6ee0d6be.jpg


More like a common architectural inspiration for the two. FWIW, the tightening of the angle of the corner in PD makes me think more of the Flatiron Building in NYC.

- The scene in which MM hold's Lizzie's "casket" and Vlad the puppet quietly emerges right behind him, honestly, looked like a scene from a Sesame Street skit. Vladdy looked as scary as the cookie monster.


Agreed. This week's "so lame it's funny" moment.

- So we learn a lot more about Noser, but he still looks uninteresting. I'd say it's because almost all we've learned about him was TOLD (by his puppeting teacher) instead of SHOWN. It's the old SHOW VS. TELL rule. And we never got to see his act. And when he was going to do his act on tape, Lacey took the camera from Pip's hand.


Yeah, but at least Lacey was right about her being a real knockout. Made me feel old to see that gorgeous, young babe sitting there and hear the backstory in which she was a grown woman when Noser was a little boy, and now he's a young man of age to find his own path in life.

I never figured he was meant to be more than a peripheral character not to be focused on too closely. Just one of those familiar faces who appear a couple of times an episode to exchange pop-culture references in the hallway and walk right in in the morning to mooch coffee.

It would have been interesting to see how his growth as a character would have been handled in a longer run of the show since he's envariably getting more screen time than he appeared to have been originally intended to by the show's creators.

Unless, of course, the comic book makes this impression of him completely absurd.

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I'd've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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by bob-402-252005 » More like a common architectural inspiration for the two. FWIW, the tightening of the angle of the corner in PD makes me think more of the Flatiron Building in NYC.

Sure, there were several "common" elements between Pushing Daisies and The Middleman, not just architectural. The thing is that such similarities have appeared in more than one occasion and in different areas, and Daises was made one year earlier.

Specifically, yes, the Liberty is partly inspired in The Flatiron, but the Bradbury was the main influence for the creation of the whole building concept, including the interior.

This is from an interview with Visual Effects Supervisor William Powloski, who worked on Pushing Daises:

But in keeping with the show's visual ambition, they wanted to make the hall look like it was in the Bradbury building, an iconic location for dozens of films, starting with "Double Indemnity" in 1944, and able to accommodate the futuristic vision of "Blade Runner."

Its "outside of time" character made the Bradbury perfect for 'Pushing Daisies,' but the budget didn't allow for even a single standard location shot. "So they paid for me to go in there on a Sunday. I think I took 2,000 photographs with my digital camera. I was there all day. We used the pictures to create a digital version of the Bradbury building so complete that we have the camera move all through it.

http://library.creativecow.net/powloski_william/magazine_pushing_daisi es/1

- The scene in which MM hold's Lizzie's "casket" and Vlad the puppet quietly emerges right behind him, honestly, looked like a scene from a Sesame Street skit. Vladdy looked as scary as the cookie monster.

Agreed. This week's "so lame it's funny" moment

Nah... To me that's just lame... But I did like several of the other puppet-related moments, especially puppet Vlad turning into a puppet bat. In my opinion, the only real vampires are the ones that turn into bats.

Yeah, but at least Lacey was right about her being a real knockout. Made me feel old to see that gorgeous, young babe sitting there and hear the backstory in which she was a grown woman when Noser was a little boy, and now he's a young man of age to find his own path in life.

You're totally right there. I feel the same.

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I finally place that suspension of disbelief bit that's been gnawing at me but I was having trouble pinning it down: Anyone else find it strange that fair-skinned blonde Lacey could share makeup with Latina Wendy? I wouldn't expect the same shades to look right on both girls.

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by bob-402-252005 » 55 minutes ago (Sat Jan 25 2014 07:38:03)
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I finally place that suspension of disbelief bit that's been gnawing at me but I was having trouble pinning it down: Anyone else find it strange that fair-skinned blonde Lacey could share makeup with Latina Wendy? I wouldn't expect the same shades to look right on both girls

Good point, for that particular Latina. And here's just one more bit for your susoension of disbelief: there are many fair-skinned Latinas, my sister-in-law being one of them, so your sentence doesn't make sense out of the show's context.

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And here's just one more bit for your susoension of disbelief: there are many fair-skinned Latinas, my sister-in-law being one of them, so your sentence doesn't make sense out of the show's context.


Fair point. I apologize for the slip.


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No problema, pal!

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real late on this one in Louisiana bowling tournament just got back in town. don't really have much to say super tired with a tooth ache.
Never really got into to the whole puppet thing and for the most part found this one pretty boring. little bit of some drama from MM saying he loved another woman but it's probably nothing. As I said suffering from horrible tooth ache so I will sign off for now.
all in all didn't like this one very well so I'll give it 3 pieces of Carpathian wood. hope next week is better.

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by charmedwon666 » 9 hours ago (Mon Jan 27 2014 07:27:37)
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As I said suffering from horrible tooth ache so I will sign off for now.

Wow, I'm so sorry to learn that. Nothing spoils the mood worse than a persisting toothache. But look at the bright side, if you get to keep the tooth, it means it could've been much worse. Over the last two years I've had two root canals that resulted in tooth extraction. Sad story...

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Just got back from the North plan on watching the show tonight. DT you have an awesome airport wish I had more time to walk around and ride the elevated train. Maybe next time my layover will be longer.

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Yeah, actually they did a terrific job on the McNamara terminal when they built it twelve years ago. It has me really spoiled when I have to spend time in other airports, and I've been seeing a lot of LGA and MCI recently. They're renovating the older terminals, so it will be interesting to see if they do as well with those.

And now, it's the only place in the state where you can find a Caribou Coffee. (sigh!)

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This Friday ep 10: “The Vampiric Puppet Lamentation”

Lighting has struck the horn is sounded hell has froze over. Finally stumbled over an episode I liked from start to finish. Don’t know if it’s because I love all those Hammer Horror films from the sixties and the seventies. It had it creepy moments that I love to see. Didn’t really get the Nosier thing just so he would have a dummy made out of the correct wood for Wendy to use. So the middleman is married to Lacey who would have thought it. Will we ever learn who else he loves my money is on Ida the robot. Well were almost done just a couple more to go. I’m hoping the remaining ones are just as good.

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Oh, the irony. It seems everybody liked this one except charmed...

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This group is insane.

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by charmedwon666 » 17 minutes ago (Thu Jan 30 2014 14:09:33)
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This group is insane.

I think the toothache is making you grumpy! I hope it's not the case.
How did that turn out anyway?

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Getting better, thanks for asking. I am off to Oklahoma today but I'm taking the beloved Middle Man with me on the Ipad. Hopefully will get to watch it tonight. Hopefully I can bring home the win this week. Was really close last week
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