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What kind of Drugs/Medicines were the bad guys taking??


so what kind of drugs were they taking that made them immune to pain...? was it Novacaine/Procaine or something??

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I think it was some kind of opium

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I definitely thought it was Opium.

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I just assumed it was left intentionally vague...a sort of steroid of the past

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they didnt say....its left vague for your own interpretation

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It could be opium but opium really slows you down so it was something else i suppose, some kind of "steroids" more likely.

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I would assume if it wasn't left so vague that it would have to be a form of PCP as the drug essentially cuts off the brain from realizing its in pain and rapidly increases heart rate and muscle tension. Opium would do close to the same but its described as more of a euphoric drug.

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This might sound like a far-fetched theory, but here goes.

If people don't interact frequently they tend to have different kinds of immunities to diseases and be vulnerable to the diseases of the place they're visiting. Maybe it was medicine against such diseases? In the scene where two Ming soldiers take pills one of them talks longingly about being able to go home.

With this in mind I interpreted their frequent pill-popping as intended to be a further reinforcement of them being far away from home.

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That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

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As I said, maybe it's a bit far-fetched. I'd love it if you would, you know, actually add something to the discussion though.

Diplomacy is saying nice doggie until you find a stone!

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it is not just a big far-fetched, it is pure stupidity that does not warrant a response.

say they were just popping these immunity boosting pills. how come they were able to withstand pain and all that.

your theory is just incredibly dumb and begs me to wonder if you even watched the movie.

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That was one of the funniest replies I have ever read. It truly came from the bottom of your heart.

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Anyways its quite obvious the drugs they took allowed them to feel no pain. Plus it was explained after the torture scene and they realized what happened after the effects wore off.

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The medicine they take is not to protect them from diseases. It's actually quite obvious those pills are something that nullifies pain, which enables them to keep fighting even with serious injuries. The reason they have to keep taking the pills though even when they aren't in combat, is the pills are very addictive, in the scene where one of the warriors is captured and interrogated he can easily withstand any torture they do to him, but after a long period of time without taking the pills you see him starting to go into withdrawal and desperately trying to get to one of the pills on the floor, because of this he broke and told his captors everything they wanted to know.

I don't think the pill popping has any other deeper meaning than that. They really point out a lot of times that they are missing home and are from far away. I think the pill popping is just that pill popping.

Good thought though, but I think you may be trying a bit to hard to find a deeper meaning here for something that really doesn't really have a deeper meaning. I think though if there is deeper meaning it is at the end when the blonde guy offers Nanashi the "medicine" but Nanashi refuses, this is to show he is a true warrior who won't stoop to using a drug to null the pain and because of that he is a truly worthy opponent for the blonde guy. Also it's probs saying not feeling pain doesn't make you a better warrior, being able to over come your pain and keep fighting is what makes you the better warrior.

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far fetched... you missed the point.

The Emperor sent his elite team to a country outside of his grasp of his militairy might and needed a way to ensure their loyalty to him lest they took the prize for themselves...so making them addicts and being the only one to provide the drugs would do that.

The one imprisoned and tortured went without it and started to show withdrawl symptoms ....that's why he probably commented on being able to finally go home..since he kicked the habit and wasn't dependable on the government issued drugs anymore.

The pain numbing was probably a fortunate side effect.

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A drug that makes them feel no pain, so they can continue fighting without being limited by pain, or withstand torture. This is explained in the scene where they torture this Ming guy, and once the effects wear off he is flooded by pain and craves the drug.

There isn't really an existing drug that cuts off pain but doesn't have side effects that would impair fighting ability. Adrenaline that your body naturally supplies you with in times of distress should also do the trick though. Therefore I think it's likely a drug that doesn't exist.

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I think it's a made-up drug as well. It's like PCP without any severe consequences (other than drug addiction and the pain that comes from injuries after it wears off) that would distract a person from battle.

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seems like everyone had the opium idea, haha

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probably not something chemically invented in the 20th century (1905)like that

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