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Charlie, The Shapeshifter, and the Extra Body


I LOVE THIS SHOW, but what was going on with the episode Charlie dies? The shapeshifter always transferred bodies, but in this episode the shapeshifter became the the nurse, who change into Charlie, yet Charlie's other body was left in the dumpster/container. Did I miss something?

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I don't understand the question? What are you asking? Why was Charlie's body hidden after he was killed? Why was the nurse's body left there?

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Sorry. Why was there an extra body when the shape shifter killed Charlie?

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Yes..If I'm remembering correctly... the shapeshifter killed Charlie, then shifted into Charlie's form, hid Charlie's real body, then pretended to be Charlie while it passed off the nurse's real body as the "dead shapeshifter".

Then later, when the coast was clear, it came back and destroyed Charlie's real body.


BUT... Charlie's death happened offscreen. We were all meant to be fooled--- relieved that Charlie was okay until the big shock when we saw Charlie's corpse.. then we'd know the shapeshifter killed him and had successfully infiltrated the team!!! You know.. a "mini twist".


Sometimes fires don't go out when you're done playin' with them.

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Correct, but how can they justify the extra body? The shape shifter transfers bodies, therefore, there shouldn't have been a third in the situation .

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The shape shifter transfers bodies...


No, it doesn't--- it has it's own body, and after it kills a victim it changes its appearance to copy the victim.

Sometimes fires don't go out when you're done playin' with them.

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Yes, but my point/question is where did the extra body come from?

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There's not an extra body.

It happens, essentially like this:

1. Shapeshifter kills Real Nurse.
2. Shapeshifter turns into Fake Nurse.
3. Good guys chase Fake Nurse.
4. Busy chasing, Good Guys don't look for Real Dead Nurse.
5. Fake Nurse gives good guys the slip.
6 Fake Nurse finds Charlie.
7. Fake Nurse kills Charlie.
8. Fake Nurse turns into Fake Charlie.
9. Fake Charlie hides Real Dead Charlie.
10. Fake Charlie puts Real Dead Nurse on the the ground.
11. Fake Charlie pretends Real Dead Nurse is Fake Dead Nurse..
12. Good guys think real Real Dead Nurse is Fake Dead Nurse.
13. Joke is on the good guys, Fake Nurse never died.




Sometimes fires don't go out when you're done playin' with them.

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So how did real dead nurse get to the location where incinerator was? Unless shape shifter had lured her there previously and hid her body only to place it on the ground after the fact.
The way I see it, so far, is that there were 2 people there originally (fake nurse & Charlie), but 3 people ended up (Charlie's dead body, fake Charlie, nurse). I thought real dead nurse was left up in the hospital where shape shifter killed her.


Good grief, who kicked me??

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I thought real dead nurse was left up in the hospital where shape shifter killed her.


Well, I'm at a disadvantage because I haven't seen the show in awhile..

BUT I thought the nurse was killed offscreen, too. Do we even know where or when the nurse was killed? If you don't know that, you cannot claim anything about the body's location.

It's entirely possible that the nurse was killed quite some time before.. and the shapeshifter had plenty of time to hide the nurse's body near the incinerator---- maybe for the same reason as hiding Charlie's body there: so it could come back at a quieter hour and burn all the evidence.

The shapeshifter may have even PLANNED to lead them to the incinerator-- and/or had already stashed the nurse's body down there ahead of time, for some unknown reason. Charlie was just unlucky, being there first and ending up alone with the shapeshifter.




Sometimes fires don't go out when you're done playin' with them.

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Or better yet:

1. Shapeshifter kills Real Nurse.

Shape shifter killed her before the chase to the incinerator room. How was real dead nurse placed on ground in the incinerator room, hence extra body?


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It's poor writing which is trying to be smart to trick people.

We do see a nurse get grabbed but that is it (you expect he would kill and copy like the previous person)

The poor writing is how Charlie is killed so quickly and copied we had seen earlier in the episode how that happens and it could never of been done in that time frame also the whole area would of been searched plus tests would of shown the nurse didn't have the gun shot wounds plus was 100% human.

Its one of those things with this show its tries to make out it is very smart but not really you need to turn your brain off and just go with it.

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