Stay inside and dial 911? Huh..BS, glad I live in Texas! - Felon (2008) Discussion

[–] hero_764 13 years ago

You don't try to kill someone who's running away...

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[–] ariad22 13 years ago

Totally agree.

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[–] gibbon02 12 years ago

F that...you dont break into a stranger's house.

"Now a question of etiquette, as I pass, do I give her the ass or the crotch."

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[–] behamut 12 years ago

Completely wrong. You want to chance someone getting some friends and coming back? It happens, I know from experience.

Someone breaks in, they pay the price.

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[–] Ithilfaen 12 years ago

I really don't think he rationalized it but you're right, you never know what the guy is going to do, even if he's not armed. You live a life of crime, you suffer the consequences.

I don't believe for a mn that he could have spent a week in jail for killing that guy. My aunt was killed in an accident by a guy who was drunk driving and he didn't spend a day in jail. How can a guy in the heat of the moment who was not trying to kill anyone go to jail for killing a known felon? please.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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[–] the_la_baker 10 years ago

You don't try to kill someone who's running away...

True, but he was reaching for his belt like he had a gun. Clearly(in hindsight) it was a bluff, but one he should not have made. If it was a cop, they would have killed him too. They also wouldn't have stopped with a knock on the head. It would have been bullets, and many of them, aimed with the INTENT to kill.

Worst case scenario for a cop in his situation; Paid leave followed by being stripped of his badge and busted down to civilian status. NOTHING compared to what the average citizen faces for the same exact act, and lets be honest, the cop would get off. He'd place a drop weapon or write up a bogus report and get off scott free(99.99% of the time).

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[–] oldmanwillow21 13 years ago

He wasn't trying to kill him. He was pumped full of adrenaline and afraid for his and his family's safety, and for all he knew the guy was reaching for a weapon.

If he's in your house and threatening your safety, his life is void. That's the way I see it.

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[–] charleecrat 13 years ago

I agree fully, what I can't accept is prison for a homeowner who was scared out of it wits by this burgular. We should have the right to protect our castle and here in Texas we do thank god.

It is called the castle doctrine.

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[–] killerbee86 13 years ago

The thing that really got me was that the robber was still on the property. It's *beep* that he would be charged with murder, it happened like 5 steps outside the front door. If something like this really happened it would be a case heard throughout the country and people would question laws concerning self defense and protection of property.

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[–] kkm_22 13 years ago

I missed the first 8 minutes of the movie. I came in when Dorff's char was walking in with the blue uniform at the county jail. So, I don't know really know what happened. In the flashback later on, it appears that he CHASED the burglar out of the house and beat that man with a baseball bat. Now, I'm no lawyer, but if you have to chase down your attacker, that's not self-defense.

@killerbee86 this has happened a lot in the US actually, with (not too) surprisingly different results for the men who were in their homes trying to defend themselves. And yes, there were people who complained, but I don't know if any change came about as a result.

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[–] keithw1975 13 years ago

I regularly read stories where the police say someone was grabbing for something and shoot the guy an insane amount of times. Later they find no weapon. Guess what! The cops aren't ever charged with a crime.

I would give some citizen the benefit of the doubt before I would some guy working for our out of control government.

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[–] Demarates 13 years ago

Now, I'm no lawyer, but if you have to chase down your attacker, that's not self-defense.

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Agreed.

Always ask yourself :"What would Neil Patrick Harris do ?"

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[–] nginx 12 years ago

Dude he wasn't trying to kill him. His adrenaline was pumping and all he wanted to do was stop the guy and seek answers on why broke into his house. He couldn't have predicted that one swing with the baseball bat and the guy would be dead. Accidents happen and an innocent man shouldn't have to go to jail for that.

This just shows how broken our justice system is. Prison was meant to rehabilitate criminals but instead it turns innocent people into hardened criminals.

He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither ~ B. Franklin

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[–] Death163 12 years ago

Thank god the law disagrees with you you're not allowed to go chasing people down and killing them once there outside your house unless they pull a weapon on you then you have no right to self defense as your life isn't in danger when there running away from you it doesn't take a genius to know right off the bat that if someones running from you and you only have a bat they prob don't have a weapon or they would have used it on you instead of running.

"The People Of America Have Spoken THE REAL TITLE TOWN U.S.A IS VALDOSTA GEORGIA"

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[–] briane01876 11 years ago

"if someones running from you and you only have a bat they prob don't have a weapon"

Why give some1 who's committing a crime like that the benifit of the doubt? and What if he DID have a gun but was afraid to use it and was going to instead wait til he got to the end of the driveway to pop off shots at the house in anger? You can say what if all day long but the question remains: Whose life is more important in that situation? Yours or his. The what if's reign equal for both sides and as long as he is in your personal space withing striking range you must assume the what if's are against you that's just basic survival.

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[–] Death163 11 years ago

No criminal in the history of man has ran away instead of using a gun expecally when being chased by a guy who's only armed with a BAT all he would have to do is turn around and the guy with the bat would *beep* his pants and run away there for the criminal would have no reason to run let me ask you something would you run away from someone who only had a bat if you had a gun????
"The People Of America Have Spoken THE REAL TITLE TOWN U.S.A IS VALDOSTA GEORGIA"

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[–] Seanny_Crow 11 years ago

Dude, you ever heard of punctuation? Reading your post aloud would make me pass out.

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[–] Backlot_Manager 13 years ago

No prison for that here either, and the dead thug's family can't even sue you, complete tort immunity. More states are seeing the light all the time.

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[–] FuTBoL_HooL 13 years ago

I like that he got jail. Should have stayed at home, threat was leaving anyways.

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[–] joeln327 13 years ago

You are wrong. This scenario would be considered murder in any part of the US. Yes, even Texas. Castle doctrine doesn't extend outside of your dwelling.

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[–] lkillen 13 years ago

Guess again little one. The castle doctrine extends to all your property, even your vehicles.

The Understanding One

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[–] FuglyStick 13 years ago

LOL check out the tuff guy. Bagger, ain't ya? You can tell, all the chest thumpin' and "I'm such a bada$$" bravado. Seriously, why use a bat when you can shoot 'em, Rambo? You know, none of your fellow Walker Texas Ranger Fan Club members are gonna respect you if you don't shoot somebody when you've got a "get out of jail free card." LOL

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[–] bgh122 13 years ago

I enjoyed this finely woven lampoon.

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[–] fker 12 years ago

The retard is strong in you.

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[–] xdefiant-heartsx 13 years ago

Screw that...show up at my house and you're gonna get a glock 19 pointed at your dome. Take another step and its lights out bye bye. *beep* and I def dont live in Texas.

Death to the IMDB trolls! Youre gonna need more than a slick vocab to prove your opinion matters

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[–] raginfanz 12 years ago

Effectively you are saying people who commit robbery should get killed, and people who kill get off scott free. I am pretty sure thats flawed logic.

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[–] babybyrd2000 13 years ago

Good for you buddy. I'm in rural Williamson county TN. Bet most of these girly boys here would just sit in a corner and cry.

Someone just broke in your home and was in your baby's room and you chase them outside and as they reach for something you take a swing and that's murder?

No wonder we live in such a "cool progressive la-la land now".

Someone can come in and ravage your home but if they leave then it's all good.

Nuts. God bless Texas.

Attacking someone on your property is about more than just pure self defense.

The prison depiction was very accurate btw.

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[–] YankeeDood 13 years ago

Dumb redneck always shooting at people.

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[–] GethinVanH 13 years ago

It's no wonder Texas has one of the highest rates in the world for accidental shooting. Oftentimes incidents occur like college kids coming back home early, come into their own home, only to get shot in the head by Poppa.

Way to go Texas!

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[–] BigEasy1203 13 years ago

I live in Texas, and if this happened to me I would be confident that a jury here would not convict me of any crime.

It's actually absurd that a person could be convicted. I understand that the best course of action would be to call 9-1-1 as soon as the burglar fled from the house, but consider that it's late at night, your adrenaline is flowing, and you're scared. Plus, the criminal is still on your propery. To claim that's murder or even manslaughter is a joke.

To the people who think it's justified, if you have a family and someone breaks into your home I am guessing you will change your tune.

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[–] carthur27 11 years ago

"It's no wonder Texas has one of the highest rates in the world for accidental shooting. Oftentimes incidents occur like college kids coming back home early, come into their own home, only to get shot in the head by Poppa."

Frederick M. is a liar, who can't cite a single case of that occurring.

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[–] bgh122 13 years ago

Yup, this is why I'm moving to Texas ASAP. The rights to defend myself and my family including the right to carry and conceal firearms. Though their efforts are valued and admirable, the police can't be there 24/7.

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[–] DonMachiavelli 13 years ago

"The best weapon for a home intruder. Dialing 911." :)

You know it, guys.

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