Book Vs Movie


Does it have the same ending? I order the book, but it will take a few weeks to get here. Does it have the water ending?

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It doesn't have the water ending, no - that was an Andrew Davies addition.

I prefer the book's ending chapter, it can stand multiple re-readings.

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I thought the water ending was hauntingly beautiful.



"Faith is Fidelity to the Insights you've gained."

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so did I. cinema at its best.



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But it's at the expense of actual character consistency!

If Selina loved Margaret, would she have done THAT to her?

No!

It was undeniably beautiful, it was cinematography at its finest... but it didn't belong in this story.

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absolutely true. but I didn't read the book--only saw the film and to me, she could have just been so manipulated that she betrayed her.
Manipulation is a powerful thing--it destroys people sometimes.
I mean that's my opinion, but I do see your point, truly I do.
I could be so wrong!




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It's true Selina was manipulated - but then again, she had just undergone about nine months of Victorian prison, so I'd be amazed if she couldn't learn to think for herself after so long away from Ruth!

Ruth is not present; she has no power to hurt Selina if Selina chooses to break away from her! So for Selina to go running back to Ruth implies that she loves Ruth. (What a pity.)

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true, but how about if she had like a personality defect?
there are people who are emotionally tied to other people for no particular reason.
btw I dont mean to be annoying on this!
just my opinion--
certain people and relationships can become addictions, if the addictee has a personality defect--or such.
at least I think so.
try to think of films or books where this kind of thing was in the story (and I will too) because it's interesting.



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OK, Selina may well have had a personality defect - call it "extreme masochism" - which led her to tie herself to the wrong person.

But... she CHOSE to do that! In the end, I have to say that if she chose to do that, she bears the full responsibility for any consequences. Why should we fall over ourselves to excuse her behaviour?

She spent a long time seducing Margaret simply to use her, steal from her and throw her aside. And she did that *knowing* (from Ruth's own letters!) that Margaret had severe depression, had been betrayed badly before, and that such a shock might well lead her to take her own life.

Why should I excuse Selina for such behaviour?

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totally agreed!
people are responsible for their own actions even if there is some explanation for those actions.
for example, a serial killer who has a rage (caused by an horrific childhood) is still fully responsible for his actions and deserves to be punished.
to me, we can understand motivations behind people's actions, and still hold those persons accountable.
at least that's what i think.



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The film is an attempt to make that it seems that at least Selina feels a bit sorry (hence the note in Margarets book).
But in the Book, Ruth and Selina go over dead bodies and are not ashamed in the least for it. They betray Margaret, they steal all of her, they drive her into death. Unforgivable.
IMO, the Margaret of the book also killed herself, even if it isn't described. She is alone, there is no one who could save her when she takes again an overdose. I found it very sad and after reading I really hated Selina for what she had done!

That only shows how incredibly talented Mrs Waters is! ^^

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Agreed and that's a really interesting comment.
Mrs Walters is hugely talented, too. I loved this because it was so original I thought. Very well done.
I'll have to read the book. I've read others by the author, but not this one.
You've got me gripped now!



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It was a pleasure! ^^

I finished Affinity in 2 days because I just couldn't put it down! XD

Sarah Waters once said:

...Fingersmith was fun in a different way because it had all those diabolical plot twists and I really enjoyed that. Affinity was an awful book to write!...


But it is really a difficult topic, IMO, but Sarah Waters just mastered it terrific!!!^^
You feel somehow very connected to Mrs Prior (or at least I felt so!)!

Can't hardly wait to read "The Little Stranger"^^

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I want to read The Little Stranger too!
Yes, I liked Fingersmith. It was like a warped Dickens!
I should read Affinity, probably will.

Thanks so much!


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I must wait until April. -.-

Fingersmith was awesome! (The BBC Film too), like Tipping the Velvet (Although I must admit that I don't particularly like Nan SOOO much XD, But Flo is awesome. The Banners are awesome!!!^^). Mrs Waters used to read a lot of Dickens during she writes this Victorian Books.^^ Maybe I should too....
Did you read Nightwatch? Great storytelling IMO!^^
You know what? Now I talked so much about Affinity that I will read it again! XD

And let this be said: Mrs Prior's last sentence is really nice tragic <3 LOVET!XD

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Didn't read that.
Now, I'm going to read Affinity!
Tipping the Velvet was good. I do remeber seeing it some time ago tho.
I think I missed the film Fingersmith!



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Have fun reading!!!


I think I missed the film Fingersmith!


Tell me that's not true!

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