I thought Olivia did a very classy job of handling the issue of how George apparently fooled around some with other women after their marriage, and how she dealt with it. I think I'll always remember "What's the secret of a long marriage? You don't get divorced."
shareGeorge had sex with a lot of women and that was during the marriage not after because he was never divorced with Olivia.
I thought it was a bit awkward quite frankly. Most women wouldn't be too content to stay married with a man who was having an affair with a porn star. And what makes it more strange is the porn star allegedly broke off the affair because George's sexual requests had become too bizarre. Which logically begs the question as to how bizarre do your sexual requests have to be for a porn star to be adverse to them?
The whole dynamic of sexual relations within that Rock n Rock/celebrity world of the 60's-80's seems kind of crazy. I think George had sex with Ringo's wife while Ringo was still married to her yet Ringo still remained good friends with George. George was also linked to Madonna while she was still married to Sean Penn.
The whole paradox of George's Spirituality and his sexual activities is never discussed in this film.
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George was linked to porn star Jeanna Fine. Supposedly she broke off their relationship because George's sexual requests were too bizarre.
As far as what those requests actually were I've never read anything that tells what George was asking for.
Hmmm...
shareWow I thought George was 100% faithful to Olivia, those lusty Beatles! That is sad, considering she seemed committed to him. I read he slept with Eric Clapton's girlfriend, his late son Conor's mom. George and Madonna? No Way!
share"Most women wouldn't be too content to stay married with a man who was having an affair with a porn star."
Most women are not married also with his money.
The whole paradox of George's Spirituality and his sexual activities is never discussed in this film.
Yes,I was thinking about that too,very contradictory.
i wouldnt' call it classy, i'd call it deluded.
shareI guess it was deep love for him that made her stay, who knows. George must have had one silky voice since she stated it only took a few words for women to fall under his spell. Patti stayed until she got fed up with his crap. I'm sure the money and being married to a Beatle played a role too. He wasn't drop dead handsome but he did have nice features. All the Beatles were attractive to some extent. Wow who would have thought Paul was the only one to stay faithful, of course Linda always traveled with him, so that cut down on temptation.
shareIn her 1999 bio, Miss O Dell, Chris O' Dell stated after they were discovered by both spouses, Maureen stated "her affair with George was based on emotional need not sex" I don't think Chris bought that although she respected her friend's feelings. Although the time frame is not stated, the affair seemed to have gone on for quite awhile. I can understand Maureen being hurt by Ringo's philandering, although the groupies probably made it hard for him to say no. But to cheat with her husband's best friend and have no consideration for Patti, that's cold. Thank goodness she did not get pregnant. Ugly situation there! I wonder if George really did love her or was overwhelmed by forbidden passion?
shareI was thinking the same thing. I sometimes wonder was Maureen thinking. Same goes for Patti, Ringo and George. Still, though...
And if she would've ended up pregnant by George...uhoh is all I have to say.
No kidding! Krissy Wood was lucky she did not get "knocked up" by George either. Good grief to lie to your wife and take your best buddy's wife to Spain! Chris stated George was conflicted by his earthly and spiritual desires, no kidding! My late mom would have stated George was a "hot number". I'm like if he needed sex that much grab a groupie, not your best friends' wives. Gee whiz ! Quiet Beatle needed a couple of cold showers(Just kidding). I respect Patti to admit she was no angel in that mess either. She should have spoken up more. She also stated in her aubio George liked to wear aftershave and cologne after their trip to India, it made her suspicious. I think she's right, they got married too young.
shareYou got that right. Btw, forgive me but who's Krissy Wood? Is she a model?
Yeah, if he was THAT IN NEED of sex, as you said, he should've gotten with a groupie and not go with the wife his best friend. Damn! I wouldn't even do that to my worst enemy.
You know, I wonder why George was so freakin' promiscuous. Though Ringo, Paul and John weren't too far behind him, hearing all several things about his many affairs and trysts, what was wrong for him to having to be sleeping around? I'm starting to wonder if he was addicted to sex or something. I know that he was young, rich, handsome, and such but he should've taken commitment to marriage more seriously, especially with Olivia if he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her. Do you have any thoughts on this?
When I first heard that he and Maureen had had an affair, though I didn't know he took her to Spain until now, I was like, "He did what?! Isn't he suppose to be Ringo's best friend?! I can't believe this. How could he do that?!" I'll admit that I was pretty disappointed but I soon gotten over it as time went on cause I knew that he's just like the rest of us:a flawed human being. Even Ringo nor Pattie weren't any better themselves. They're just as bad as George and Maureen. Pattie's right. They gotten married too young. Maybe way too young. Probably the same could be said for Ringo and Maureen. But the past is the past and can't be changed. Also there's something else. I'm not sure if this is true but I was told that when George dated and engaged to Olivia, he had Hepatitis C. Hepatitis C! This was like somewhere in the mid-late 70s. I'm not sure what to think of that but if it's true, I believe he got treatment for it.
Yes. Still, as much I'm unimpressed and disappointed by these things he'd done, the crazy thing is, I still adore him.
Krissy was Ronnie Wood's wife, he wasn't with the Stones yet. She is the one George is rumored to have taken to Spain, not Maureen. When I first heard rumors a few months ago that George(the spiritual, quiet one) may have been the most sexually active one, I was really shocked. BTW I read his autobio back in the 90's and Stone Bill Wyman stated he was the most sexually active member , not Mick or Keith. Surprise Surprise those quiet ones huh? Yes I thought he was totally devoted to Olivia, allegations of infidelity surprised me. But he always came back to Olivia. It's silly to get mad since I don't know any of the parties personally, and the Maureen stuff happened when I was a tyke . Pop stars are human and succomb to temptation.
shareOh okay. So it was Krissy, not Maureen. Got it. I, myself, was shocked that George was the most sexually active one of the group yet for some crazily strange reason, I WASN'T ALL THAT SURPRISED AT ALL. I'm serious. Cause I kinda knew and had a pretty good idea on how his and maybe even the other three's sex lives were during and after the band. Yes, The Rolling Stones were quite frisky themselves but even the so-called clean-cut band like The Beatles were even more friskier than the "bad boys" like Mick and Keith. Looks can be deceiving. The temptation and lust is hard to not give in. It's part of being human and we should not let it have a strong grip on us. As you said, he always came back to Olivia. I guess it's because he realized that he really loved her and had yet to stay truelly devoted to her. I hope he did before he passed.
shareYep I guess paul wins the gold medal for fidelity, since it seems he never cheated on Linda. Let's hope. At lest the Fab Four did not change their wives like socks unlike some celebrities. Paul has only been married 3X. The men must had something special since all 3 ex wives had a hard time letting go emotionally. I read a rumor, that Maureen once drove her motorbike or cycle into a wall depressed over her divorce. Patti did not marry Eric until George married Olivia. Cyn still talks fondly of John and Yoko never remarried. Come to think of it, neither has Prince Andrew or Fergie. I know Fergie deeply regrets hurting him. Wow first love! In regards to the hepatitis George suffered from. Drugs, drinking, and wild sex can wreck havoc on a person's health.
shareYeah. Let's hope for Paul's sake. But I think he was terribly great to Linda and would've done anything for her. He and his kids still talk so wonderfully about her. And by looking at her, I could tell that she was such a good wife, a good mother, and most importantly, a good person. I just hate how Paul's second marriage was absolutely NOTHING like that. I saw that it effected him negatively and it was a TOTAL disaster. I pray that this marriage to Nancy is a blessed one. He seems very happy with her and vice versa. Oh and they married on what would have been John's 71st birthday. I believe that serves as an importance to Paul.
What? Wow. I hope she wasn't seriously injured. I guess Maureen felt so much sadness and guilt when all that happened. I didn't know Patti didn't marry Eric until George married Olivia. I thought she married first. Interesting.
Yes, Cyn still seems to adore John after all that's happened and I suppose that she'd long forgiven him. Btw, I've actually heard that about four months after John passed, Yoko in fact secretly married for the 4th time to her lover at the time. She had been with him even when John was still alive. She was seen photographed with him two months after John died and two months before they married. Hmm. Also, I think both her and Cyn have been married four times, especially thinking back to Cyn's book, "John". But hey.
Yes, the Fab Four all loved their wives and girlfriends, good or not, and as you said, at least they weren't like some other celebrities when it came to getting married just for attention and fame.
All the drugs, drinking, and wild sex combined can cause SERIOUS DAMGE to a person's body and health if they don't stop with horseplaying. It's like playing Russian Roulette with your life. I'm glad that George somewhat got that under control and didn't let it get in the way of the rest of his life.
I have seen pictures of Yoko's boyfriend/husband. Maybe she and John were both running around if she was seen with him before John died. I just glimpsed at Cyn's book, yep she has been married 4X. I did hear about the girlfriend swapping the Beatles and Stone engaged in, that's nasty but it was their life. I just like the music. According to Cyn, Maureen was hurt badly and required plastic surgery that she felt inproved her looks according to Cynthia. I think I heard Yoko was married 2X before John. I recall she also has a daughter. Paul did look broken down and haggard during his divorce trial. I think Heather really broke his heart. The upside to their marriage is cute little Beatrice. At least he and Heather are civil for her sake. Olivia stated all the Beatle kid get along with each other. That's nice to hear. Check out YouTube for their pictures.
share"The Quiet Beatle" my foot! I knew it! It's the "quiet" ones you have to watch out for, and George Harrison totally fit that bill nicely. Anyway, if I was one of his wives, and he dared betray me the way he did Olivia, he would be signing divorce papers faster than you can count from one to ten! Incredible musician, but he needed cold showers-tons of them!
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George is dead, what's the point in being angry. Considering the sick world we live in, he did get involved with willing adult women. At least he wasn't like Roman Polanski , Woody Allen, or Bill Wyman. Yeah the quiet, spiritual image was misleading, but he never stated he was a saint. Olivia has a big heart to overlook his cheating. Patti too, she stayed friends with him.
REALLY, ilahilda?! Geez! Plastic surgery? I didn't realize the accident was that horrible. Poor Maureen. Glad Cyn was there to help her. I know that they were very good friends up until Mo's passing. Correct me if I'm wrong but John was Cyn's first husband out the four, wasn't he? I agree that Paul looked broken down and haggard during his awful divorce. Just thinking about him like that upsets me. Heather was terribly wrong for how she did him & will reap what she sow but it's good that he seems to be recovering now and moving on with his life. It shouldn't have happened the way it did but it's the past. And I'm glad they're both civil for Beatrice. Also, she is just too cute and sweet!
Yes, Yoko has been married two other times before John and once after. She had a daughter, Kyoko, from her second husband I think. She and John, though her mostly, had been having lovers on the side a lot during their marriage. From what I hear, sometimes, when John was taking care of & spending time with Sean, she would be with her boyfriend. Sure there were nannies but John may have tried his best. I've seen many photos of the John, Yoko, and Sean together, and let me tell you:they all looked so unhappy in most of them. I can tell by the looks and poses that something didn't feel right at all. I think in the very last years of his life, John was so depressed and also seemingly haggard, he lost so much weight due to a diet(forgive me, I'd forgotten the name) he was on to where he almost looked extremely thin. I've heard that John had spent much of his life struggling with his weight.
That's awesome that Olivia speaks so well of Beatles Children. I've seen lots of the Beatles Children photos many times and I LOVE them! It's so amazing and wonderful to see them with their parents and together. I think Dhani is the one who hangs out with just about everyone of them.
Btw, I agree with you about George. Though, what his promiscuoity was troubling, at least he wasn't like those other guys you've named. At least he knew better. Plus, he owned up to his mistakes and is full of flaws like the rest of us. I commend Olivia and Pattie for forgiving him.
I hope Beatrice takes after her dad personality wise. I hope Paul has the energy to keep up with a small child. Olivia stated that Dhani is very close to the Mccartney kids, but like you stated, they all have a bond. I never invested that much in the pics, but other fans have stated John looked happier with May Pang and Cyn. I'm sure Yoko made him happy in her own way, he married her. I also have read Patti looked happier with George than Eric in her pics. Who knows. I have read that both Patti's ex Rod and friend Chris O' Dell state that Eric could be very rude and cold sometimes. I guess George had a warmer personality. Yes John was Cyn's 1st hubby.
shareOh okay. Thank you.
I think she will take after her dad personality wise. I've seen some pictures with Beatrice and Paul, and they look like they couldn't be happier. I've seen one where they were walking on a sidewalk together. Paul had his hands in his pockets and Beatrice had her hands in her pockets and both seemed to be walking in the same manner. I think she definetly has a lot of her father.
John did in fact looked happier with May and Cyn. He seems more himself and so animated when they were around. Same goes for the guys. John may have married Yoko but it takes a lot more in order for a marriage relationship to truelly work out. You can be married to somebody for like 20 years and barely know who they are if you two don't work hard at building a stable, loving, and strong relationship. It's a serious commitment but just as long as there's time, patience, strength, teamwork, value and love. I just don't see that with them. Yes, in her own way, Yoko made John very happy but from what I've read, heard and saw, as the years went by and towards his final days, I can't help but think otherwise. I also agree about Pattie being happier with George than Eric. I have heard about Eric being rude and cold sometimes and such. George was no better though as you said, he may have had a warmer personality and seemed better to be around.
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Exactly, Diann08. They were/are all human. Nobody's perfect.
shareI am reading Miss O Dell, by Chris O Dell in Chapter 18, she mentions how Patti was skeptical to trust her since many of her former friends ended up hitting on George, she told her the difficulties of being married to a Beatle.
Years later, she confided in Chris that she once thought George brought Chris to their house to be a lover not as an employee and friend. Although she slept with Ringo, Chris never betrayed Patti's friendship, she even had to ask George to "chill" in regards to his flirting. On the flip side, I read accounts of Mick Jagger and John flirting with Patti, so there was also a downside to having the prettiest wife in the group too.
That's some astounding stuff, hilda, hope you don't mind me calling you that. It's good that Chris kept her promise to Patti. I wished Patti herself followed her own advice though. Because that situation is what I call hypocrtical irony. But hey, only human.
shareNo I don't mind. I think Patti got tired of crying over George's infidelity, and decided two can play that game. I don't think she brought her lovers home like George did, YUCK !! I wondered if she ever burned the sheets , I would have thrown them out. The least he could have done was be discreet. Both were wrong to engage in swapping despite the times.
shareAbsolutely, hilda. It's like that old saying:"Two wrongs don't make a right." What she should have done is either talk to George & maybe they both would've gone to marriage counseling to work things out or leave him right then. I know I would have. I wouldn't stuck around and put up with that crap & I'm a fan of George's. And most of all, I would never cheat as well with other men just to get even. That's just as disgusting and wrong. Also, George should've kept his body and sexual desire under control, got help, & work things out with Patti if they wanted a strong marriage. But, it was a different time and maybe the marriage wasn't meant to last.
sharehttp://www.themortonreport.com/entertainment/music/pattie-boyd-rocks-most-beautiful-muse/
Here's a nice article. That's got to be tough on Eric to hear Patti regrets leaving George for him, and that the ex-Beatle will always be the love of her life. He almost went crazy for her! Well he's happy with his current wife and kids. It seems George got heavier in the 90's. maybe it was Olivia's homecooking, he was very slim in his younger days.
Thanks for the link.
Yeah. In a way, George was the one that got away for Pattie and perhaps vice versa. I'm glad Eric is happy with his current wife and kids.
At first, I didn't know what you meant when you said that George got heavier in the 90s. But I realize what you mean. Lol! Yeah, he did get a bit heavier but not that bad. I bet Olivia's homecooking is great. Actually, he looked rather great(pre-cancer that is ). In the Anthology documentary, he actually looked so fine for his age that at one point, I was swooning. No joke. He looked very, very slim when he was young yet he was still quite fine looking. Even my mom thought he was quite handsome.
I meant he gained weight, it was meant in a positive way. Do you have crush on him?
shareOh okay. And yes, I do have a crush on him. I do have a crush on ALL of them, though. As if lately, I've been getting into him more and more than usual, though Ringo is still my favorite. I'm not sure why but I do have a crush on Georgie still. I love his eyes and how they seem to pierce through people when he looks at anyone.
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No offense to diehard Fab Four fans, they did look kinds silly with the long hair and beards.
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Oh, cut in the conversation at anytime, Diann.
I agree. Normally, I wouldn't get this smitten by anybody like him but with him, I do. He was very gorgeous, handsome, adorable and rather hott. As a matter of fact, I find them all gorgeous, handsome, adorable and hott! As you said, they're also so damn charming that we can see why they had so many crazy fangirls! No artist today can top that to the way THEY DID.
I didn't mind his moustache that much but you're right. It kinda did sorta distracting and made him a little older than he was. Oh well. Yeah, their beards were the things that REALLY bothered me. Their long hair, I actually like, but the beards, ugh.
I'm sure if George was alive and read this, I'm sure he would be flattered women decades younger than him still find him desirable. John too. Those girl fans did go overboard scaling the hotel walls they were in. I'm surprised the police did not go stone crazy in the US or Britain trying to rein them in. Not to mention hearing loss. I'm reading Breathing Out by Peggy Lipton. Back in the 60's , she and Paul were an item for awhile. In fact, years later when Quincy was working with Paul on an album, Peggy temporarily babysat his kids in California I think. She stated Quincy was fond of Linda as a friend. Quincy and Peggy's divorce really shocked me.
shareI'm sure he and John would. I was born in the 90s and I find them desirable. Even as teenagers, they were pretty cute. Their voices alone are surprisingly sexy. I would also be screaming and going crazy like their female fans, too. But I would NEVER get to the point of scaling their hotels they stayed at. I'm also surprised that the police in Britain and the USA didn't lose their freakin' minds and try to tame them more either! Funny! I would've made sure I brought along plenty of cotton balls because of the loud screams. Pardon me, hilda, but who's Peggy Lipton again? She was Quincy's wife, I know, but I never did know much about her.
shareCheck out the Beatles in Minneapolis on YouTube, police found girls hiding in their motel room while the group was sleeping, and in one book I read , Patti and George found girls hiding under their bed in their house in England. That's creepy! Thank God no one was hurt. There is also the case of bogus rape charges that could have ruined their careers. Not to mention those dumb girls could have broken their necks climbing hotels. Peggy Lipton was an actress/model that starred in the 60's hit Mod Squad. It was pretty good, it dealt with the social issues of that time period. She also starred on the 90's show Twin Peaks, I never watched it too much , too weird.
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I read she got nasty letters. Maureen was once attacked in a car while dating Ringo. Cyn seems like the only wife that escaped wrath from fans. What was wrong with those girsl? It's OK to have a crush, but the Fab Four was allowed to fall in love and get married.
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I guess after enough years, it got tiresome, plus they were getting married and settling down. If I was a fan back then, I would watch them on TV, why waste my money and I couldn't hear anything. Not to mention risk getting hurt if the fans got wild and went on a stampede. In Chicago, I once attended a parade named Bud Billiken where Different Strokes star Todd Bridges appeared in the 80's. A crowd rushed towards my family as his float appeared, luckily we were OK, but that was a scary moment.
shareOMG, that IS CREEPY! I'm crazy over The Beatles as much as the next girl but I WOULD NEVER GO TO EXTREME HEIGHTS TO STALK OR HARM THEM OR ANY OF THEIR LOVED ONES. NEVER! That's crazy! Poor guys. The even would spend the whole day in their hotel together due to the insane, humongous crowd that was outside the motel/hotel they were staying at. I don't blame them one bit for not touring again.
Glad you and your family were okay, hilda, and thanks for the info about Peggy Lipton.
I recall one video where the Beatles sent the fans in New York I think a box of donuts via the police. I was wondering why one box, since there were many girls outside? At least 2 or more boxes, oh well it was a sweet gesture from the guys. Needless to say, the girls ripped the poor box to shreds and enjoyed the treats. I bet they are now telling their grandkids how they enjoyed donuts from the Fab Four! According to Ronnie Spector, once they were so stir crazy John called her and begged her to take them somewhere the crowds won't follow them to eat. So she took them to Sherman's BBQ in Harlem, and they enjoyed it. How they snuck out I don't recall. It is in her bio "Be My Baby", a good read. "They weren't really popular with Black audiences yet , so they could eat in peace", according to Ronnie. Sadly I read that restaurant is having current financial problems, and may or already closed down. Google it, there are some really nice stories of the famous people besides the Beatles that ate there.
I recall a vintage clip of a New Yorker that wanted to give Paul a a nice painting she made of him, I think it was in '64. The girl stated she would not attack him to the reporter if she ever got a chance to meet Paul. I wondered if the reporter gave Paul the picture? The clip is really famous.
I once read in an excerpt from the late pop singer's Ricky Nelson's bio that his ex-wife Kris once slept with an ex-Beatle during their troubled marriage. It didn't state any names, but since he lived in California during that time, I'm guessing it was George since I read he was neighbors with them. Interesting, who knows? The Nelson's marraige was rocked with infidelity, drug use, emotional cruelty,and greed. They also married young due to the fact Kris was pregnant, she was 17, Rick 22. I read their bios on Wiki and other sites, and Kris is painted in a bad light, even her kids moved in with their dad. she tried to bleed Ricky dry in alimony. Even her brother Mark was engaged in a bitter custody battle over his youngest nephew's welfare due to her emotional and drug problems. I recall Rick stating in an old interview, he was friends with John. His music had a nice "bubble gum" sound. Tragic the way he died at 45.
shareHere is some interesting celebrity news from the 60's involving George and dates.
With the blessing of her mom, he escorted fellow Brit and Disney teen star Haley Mills to various events. I think Haley was 16 or 17 then. In addition, according to the gossip columns back then, he and American performer Joey Heatherton made the New York phone company rich due to numerous long distance phone calls. I read he was dating her and Patti around the same year.
Really? That's not only interesting, but incredible. Btw, I enjoyed Hayley Mills in the old Disney movies from the 60s and 70s, back when Disney was still relevant for animation, films, and excitement. But that's another story. Those must've been quite long distance phone calls between him and Joey(btw, forgive me but what was her profession in the performance category?). Isn't it great that George and the guys appeared to have great interests in British AND American women as well as other types?
shareA couple of years ago, ABC use to show Disney movies, vintage and recent on the weekend. I miss it. PBS sometimes shows the Beatle movies during their telethons. The plots are bland, but I like the music. I don't know much about her, But Joey was a singer/ dancer. I saw a few clips, she was good, and very pretty. She also acted in a few movies and toured with Bob Hope. She also later suffered from emotional and drug problems. I read she is sort of a recluse now since the death of her dad whom she was very close too. Yeah Haley was a cute kid. That is cool they liked diverse women.
shareYeah. I use to watch them on ABC, one of the Disney Channels, and other networks. They were wonderful. I end up missing the Beatle movies on PBS, though. Lol! I think their plots are crazy yet entertaining & enjoyable while have incredible music with it. I feel bad for Joey. Hope she's okay. I'll keep her in my prayers. I agree about Haley. I always thought she was such a cute kid and a very good actress. She seems so fun and loving. Even Walt Disney took a liking to her.
It is totally awesome that they liked diverse women and such. I think it has a lot to do with their amazing charm. Let's face it. The four of them are quite the charmers for all of us girls.
GL are you a movie and music buff. I like shows like Access Hollywood, EXTRA, ET;and love to read celebrity mags and tabloids. Although reality TV sickens me. Anybody can be on TV and the radio today. What happened to talent. Check out Joey's story on YouTube, it's interesting. I think I read somewhere Walt was fond of Haley. I know he was protective of Annettee Funicello in her heyday. I like the Moon Spinners. Yeah the Fab Four had nice personalities.
shareI am a movie and music buff, hilda. And proud of it! Thanks to my parents. I LOVE movies and music. I've been a fan of those ever since I was really young. My mom and I would read the tabloid magazines when we're at the doctors' office and at the store. Lol! I occasionally watch Access Hollywood, EXTRA, ET, and E! News. But the reason I don't most of the time is cause much of the news they report on there is oversaturated, biased, and pointless garbage. And yes, Reality TV is just horrid! Well, at least like 90% of it is. There are a few good shows like 'Hoarders', 'Intervention', 'Face/Off' from the Sci-Fi/SyFy Channel, 'My Fair Wedding' and plenty of others. But overall, it's pretty bad. If I had the power, I would get rid of shows like 'Jersey Shore'(ESPECIALLY this trashy show), 'The Bachelor/Bachelorette', '19 Kids and Counting', 'The Kardashians' and their spin-offs, those 'Housewives of whatever' shows on Bravo, 'Teen Moms', 'Toddlers And Tiaras', 'Wife Swap' and many others. All of those shows are ridiculous, insane, disturbing, disgusting, immoral and insulting to us as human beings. I HATE that we live in a society where acting stupid and not having any talent whatsoever can make you famous and earn you lots of money. All the while, there are lots of people struggling to make a living and feed their families. It's unjust and beyond terrible.
Anyway, back on topic once again. Lol! Yes, I'll look up Joey's story on YouTube. It does sound very interesting. I could be wrong but I think Hayley also did the voices of Alice and Wendy in Alice in Wonderland and Peter Pan animated movies, respectively. I also know about Walt's protectiveness of Annette. Oh the Mickey Mouse Club Show. *sigh*
Girl, I swear, there's something about the Fab Four that seems to draw women of all walks of life to them. Back when I was just getting into them and their music, at first, I didn't know what the big fuss over them & such. I've kept hearing that they were extremely talented musicians, musical geniuses, and quite hardworking. Even, I didn't get why their female fans would go crazy for them. Until one day when I was looking at various pictures of them on YouTube and I was like, "Hmm. These guys are actually kinda cute." I found myself swooning over them! I don't know why, it's like they have an amazing ability to to keep us enthralled. Lol! Even today, Ringo and Paul are still rather charming.
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Hi kiddo, wow I rarely posted on George's board, now I look forward to your insight. I did not know Haley did voiceovers for the animated features. If she did good for her, more money. It sounds like Annette's health is fading fast due to MS. In some ways, her death means she will no longer have to suffer. So sad about comedian Richard Pryor, he also suffered and died from the disease. I had a friend die from a MS stroke at 37 in 2004. Speaking of Richard, I visited Peoria in 2010. Nice small town. As far as their looks, they were nice looking guys for that era. I couldn't have a crush on them since they are old enough to be my dad. Maybe as a teen back then, I would have a crush. I'm like you, it mystifies me the way women went crazy over them and MJ. Of course, before his looks were destroyed he was a good looking guy back in the day too. Oh how so many of my friends wanted to marry him in the 80's! I just enjoyed the music. I have to admit, although Paul looks his age, Ringo looks like he is in his 50's instead of 71. MJ'S brother Jackie is aging well for a guy turning 61 this year, So is Janet. Similar to the devotion of Paul and Linda, I read that Stones drummer Charlie Watts is the only member to have never divorced I believe. He and his wife have been married for over 40 years. The 'Quiet' Stone also engaged in drug activity less than his comrades. I'm not sure if he engaged in affairs. Sadly, he also battled throat cancer. The website I sent includes some rare videos. I think Dusty had a slight crush on the group, she seems to be flirting. I read Helen Shapiro had a crush on John. She had a cool voice too.
Back to Annette, I respect the fact she retained her morals and remained a sweet person. I saw her bio on TV and briefly read her autobio. I was not a big fan her beach movies, although Frankie was cute.
Hi! Thanks for the link, girl. Yes, I think Haley did do voiceovers for those 2 animated Disney movies. She was great in those. Go check out Alice in Wonderland and Peter Pan which are both from the 50s.
Wow, I had no idea about Annette. That's horrible she has that disease. I LOVED her in the Mickey Mouse Club and she came across as very sweet person. I'll keep her in my prayers and thoughts. I was very sad about Richard Pryor as well. I'm terribly sorry about your friend, hilda. Nobody shouldn't have to suffer from horrible cancer and diseases like MS. But it's all in God's hands.
Yeah, Jackie and Janet look incredible for their ages. I agree about Paul and Ringo. Paul may look his age but when he talks, he still sounds the same sorta when he talks just like in his Beatle days. When I was watching clips of George's documentary here, I was a little surprised that Paul's voice still sounded the same. And he's still look good and got some great strength. As for Ringo, yes he does look 50ish even though he's 71. He looks great. Hey! I even have a long lasting crush on Keanu Reeves since I was like 5 years old and he's as old as my dad! 47 is the age yet he still looks about 20 years younger and still handsome!
I always thought that MJ was very cute. Even after he had all that surgery but by the 21st century, it went nowhere. I wished he didn't have a lot of those unnecessary surgeries. He looked beautiful without them.
I've always liked Charlie Watts and that's great that he and his wife have been married for a long time.
Rebbie Jackson looks good too, she's the eldest sibling. I think Roger Daltrey is still married to his first wife too. I also like a few WHO classics. Here's another juicy tidbit. According to insiders and George's account, the late actress Jane Mansfield once groped he and John while they were dining with her in California in '64. George spoke up in protest. I'm not sure if she was still married at the time. There is also a rumor, teen British singer Helen Shapiro lost her virginity to John. I saw her videos, she was a good singer. I think I placed a link, but I'm not sure. Keanu acts a little strange at times, but he is attractive. I did not know he was part Hawaiian-Chinese on his paternal side. By the way were you a OLTL fan, sorry to see it end.
I did not one of George's ex- lovers Krissy Wood(wife of Ron) died in 2005. She also slept with John Lennon and Eric Clapton according to the celebrity websites. When Eric stated he and George shared women, he wasn't kidding!
OLTL, dear? What does that stand for again?
I agree. Rebbie still looks very lovely.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Jayne Mansfield groped George and John. I think she was still married to her second husband at the time. That Hargitay guy. Poor George and I guess, John. I enjoy Helen Shapiro's songs! If that rumor is true, though I wouldn't agree to it, what a lucky girl.
The reason Keanu acts a little strange at times is because of all of the crap he's been put through in his life. Like when he was 3 years old, his father left him, his sisters, and his mother alone. He lost one of his friends, fellow actor River Phoenix, to drugs. Then later on in life, around the time when he was filming The Matrix, his fiancee at the time lost their baby. It was stillborn and it was a girl. I think shortly thereafter, it had such a horrible affect on them that they've decided to break up. But then, about a year and a half later, she died in a car crash. It makes me depressed just thinking about it. Plus, he's still dealing with unnecessary & unfair criticisms concerning his acting and personal life. Hollywood and its critics are full of it. I've seen A LOT of his movies that are various genres and he's very good in all of them. He may not be the best actor in the world. But unlike MOST actors nowadays, even ones before and after him, he comes across as a very decent, wonderful, professional, respectful actor as well as person. Plus, he comes across as normal in the sense that he's not trying to look for fame and fortune. He seems to do what he does for a living for the sake of art.
One more thing about Keanu, to this day, people are still talking about how he gave the majority of his salary from The Matrix films, which was about $70 or $80 million, to Cancer Research & Foundations, gave some to the cast & crew, and bought everyone in the stunt crew a Harley motorcycle. When asked why he gave away a large sum of his money, he said that he's got enough money to last him the next couple of centuries and feels the need to share it with others. So generous and sweet of him. It almost makes me wanna cry. I think he's quite a trooper after all of this and still manage to stay so humble.
I believe you told me about Krissy Wood sometime ago and you're right. I didn't know she also slept with John and Eric. When did she get with either of them? And yes, Eric wasn't kidding about sharing the women between them! Whoa!
Hi, I've heard about Keanu's generous nature. That's nice to hear in shallow Hollywood. I'm familiar with the tragic story of his deceased girlfriend and their baby, Very sad. I think Prince and one his exes also suffered the tragedy of a stillborn child years ago. Unless it catches my attention, I'm not really interested in the details about the rock stars musical bedroom antics. One final note, there are rumors Linda once dated John and Paul once dated Maureen. LOL does it ever end?! I think Eric is glad to finally have a woman "untouched" by George. She wasn't even born during their wild days or a small child. Who can blame him. Conor's mom Lori DelSanto even bragged to the Daily News in 2007, about her alleged 3 day romp with George while he was on tour with Eric in Japan in'91. I'm like if that's true, good grief George, couldn't you have just offered the lonely lady some tea and conversation?
Sandra Bullock is a sweet lady too. Jesse James is a jerk! OLTL (One Life To Live). I care about my soaps. Sad they are fading away.
Hey, hilda. How was your weekend?
Oh. One Life To Live. I'm also sad that it's going. Even though I didn't watch it every day, I enjoyed seeing it when I had time. I hate that soaps are kinda fading away while the reality TV crap is still plaguing television. Ugh. Gets on my nerves! But I digress.
I agree about Eric. I hope he and his current wife are fine now. She won't be "taken" by our so-called "Quiet Beatle."
WHAT?! Is that true?! Linda dated John and Paul dated Maureen?! LOL! OH MAN!!!!!!! These guys are truelly something else!
Btw, you know the whole The Beatles' Women list, do you? They have a lot of the guys' wives and girlfriends:Cyn, Pattie, Maureen, Jane, Linda, Yoko, May, Olivia, Barbera, Heather, and Nancy. You know what? Hope you don't mind me saying this. After hearing all of this and looking up some of the info pertaining to this, the list probably should've been much longer. Just a thought. Yes, it wouldn't be necessary. But then again, a couple of the women you've mentioned were also girlfriends at one point or another and close lady friends. They should probably add on to the list (AGAIN THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT) Ronnie Spector, Chris O Dell, Joey Heatherton, Krissy Wood, maybe Mary Wilson, Peggy Lipton and others. One more thing, if it is true about Lori Del Santo and George, he should've taken 10, no make that 20 icy cold showers a day, and as you said, offered her tea & a conversation instead.
Shallow Hollywood is right. Though, I call it 'Hollyweird' now because that's what they've been reduced to. They have all kinds of ridiculous things happening, greedy than usual, the critics are unfair jerks, and the paparazzi are pesky parasites. Seems like everything is not just shallow, but also so superficial, fabricated, overhyped, excessive, and picky. That's why some famous folks like Keanu are getting trashed on because he's not like most of the HW's elite. He values his life, privacy, & career. Even when they want to shut him out and trash him, he has loads of fans that still believe in him. Keanu really seems like a decent person. I pray that he finds happiness in his life. I think he deserves a chance. I know about Prince and his ex's tragedy as well and that's downright awful. Still, he seems happy today and I hope he's doing well.
I 'm not sure, but I think it was at the Rock'n Roll Hall of Fame , back when George was inducted a few years ago, that Prince upstaged Tom Petty while playing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps". Dhani just giggled. I did not know Prince played a guitar, I'm not a fan, but do like a few songs. As a teen, I thought he was a bit strange. My late neighbor Paula use to say"Hollyweird" too. I think Dakota and her younger sis Elle Fanning are decent girls uncontaminated by Hollywood, I hope they stay that way. Mary Wilson? I think she was only a friend, was she ever involved romantically with a Beatle? According to her article, before her alleged tryst with George in Japan, Lori stated she felt suicidal due to the fact Eric ignored her after the tragic death of Conor. Some fans stated the story is false since Olivia and Dhani were with George in Japan. If that's true, how the heck did the duo pull off a 3 day "lovefest". Surely Eric or Olivia would figure something was fishy. I guess where there's a will, there's a way. I also read on Contact music, one of George's teen girlfriends named Iris still considers him one her fave kissers , stating she still remembers a "hot" kiss he gave her 50 years ago. The children's rhyme "Georgie Porgie kissed the girls and made them cry" takes on another meaning reading about George H! Here's the article, I couldn't help rolling my eyes, but it's interesting.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-474759/How-Eric-Claptons-ex-got-revenge--little-help-George-Harrison.html
Oh, I know about Prince. His main musical instrument is a guitar, especially custom made ones for him. He was a little bit strange but how he created music was magnificent. I'd seen a little bit of that video where he played the guitar while Dhani was on stage. That was AWESOME. My mother and I have been fans of his for a while. We have almost all of his albums. Since I was born, my mom would play Prince's music and dance with me. Some of my favorite songs from his are "When You Were Mine", "Why You Want To Treat Me So Bad?", "Raspberry Beret", "I Would Die For You", "Scandalous", "Get Off", "Diamonds and Pearls", and "7". If you want, listen to some of these songs if you haven't already listened to them. I think you'll like them.
Wow. That's interesting that your neighbor, Paul, use to say "Hollyweird" too. She knew stupidity in loony Tinsle Town or 'so-called city where dreams are made' when she saw it. I agree about Dakota and Elle. I think they're both great actresses. Hope they stay true to themselves, as well, and not let the Hollywood nostalgia get in their heads like most actors & actresses.
As for Lori and George, it's unclear. Maybe that's why people call it a rumor. And you're right, Eric and Olivia would've suspect 'something'.
I'd imagined George being a "hot" kisser. I heard of that nursey rhyme and I think it's funny & cute. As you said, it does take on another meaning when it comes to "Quiet" Beatle.
I actually wonder what kind of a kisser he'd make, though.
I like "1999", and "Diamonds and Pearls" too. A few others are cool also. I also like George Michael, I'm glad he recovered from pnuemonia. I never knew Prince was a Beatles fan. I was also surprised Alicia Keyes was too, when she recently honored George in regards to the 4oth anniversary of Concert for Bangladesh at her charity event in November. As far as the Beatles being romantic, I have never heard anything negative from past lovers. 20 icy showers GL, poor George would be a raisin. Paul did state his friend was red blooded! Do you think George broke John's record for conquests?
shareOh yeah. "1999" is a great one. So is "Kiss". I like George Michael, too. I prayed that he'd recover from pnuemonia and thank God he's okay. I kinda heard that Alicia Keys is a Beatles fan, but I guess it should've been a no-brainer for us when it came to Prince. Lol! Wonder who else is a Beatles fan? We know that President Obama and Oprah are. Hmm.
Girl, I'm guessing that the guys where quite hell of the lovers if you know what I mean. Red blooded, huh? No arguement here.
You know what? I think George may have broken John's record for conquests only a couple or more. Yeouch!
Pop singer Roberta Flack has a CD coming out dedicated to the Fab Four. I think she was or still is good with the Lennons.
shareHmm. That sounds nice of Roberta to do a CD dedicated to the Fab Four.
Btw, did you hear that Etta James had passed away? The singer who sang "At Last". Such an amazing singer. RIP Miss James
She is from my home town Chicago, in fact on PBS she once hosted a show about Vee Jay records, the Black owned R&B label that was the first American label to sign the Fab Four. For a while, they also had Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons too. I believe Etta was signed to them too. Which version do you like better of her signature song, hers or Beyonce? Did you ever see the 80's classic "The Thornbirds"? I am watching clips on YouTube. I first saw the movie as a teen, I am beginning to like it again. I'm glad she is at peace. That was a mistake, Charles bronson died years ago. I am shocked about Don Cornelius's tragic death. As a child, Bandstand and Soul Train were my family's fave shows.
shareHey, hilda! Sorry for the late replies. Been a little busy lately.
Really? That's pretty cool!
I find Etta's version better. She has more of a soulful, sensual, romantic, graceful and gorgeous feel to her voice in her signature song. It makes me feel like I'm floating.
I'm also glad that she and Charles Bronson are at peace.
Kinda OT.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1388489/The-Beatles-Ri ngo-Starr-Paul-McCartney-likes-think-hes-remaining-Beatle.html
Don't let the headline mislead you. It did to me. Lol! As I read further, I realized it was just harmless jokes and love. Enjoy.
Another cool blog focused on George/ Estelle relationship
http://classicrockmen.livejournal.com/91559.html#t426919
Sorry for the very belated reply, hilda. I've been around the net and various boards here.
Wow. That is a quite a cool blog.
Thank you so much for the link, girl.
Yeah I like it, but sadly since both parties are dead and nobody is talking , makes sense, they dated a long time ago. We may never know if their relationship was serious or were they just good friends. It does make you curious. So were you a Whitney fan? I liked a few of her songs. I felt bad for Bobby and his kids feeling they had to leave, that was cruel. That was sweet of Paul and Nancy to honor her memory.
shareIndeed it does.
My family and I are Whitney fans. I grew up listening to her music and IMO, one of the greatest singers that ever lived. I was in total shock and disbelief when I heard that she died. I saw the headline here on IMDb and immediately clicked on it. I read it for about a couple of minutes and it was like everything around me stopped. Next thing you know, I found myself going to my mom and telling her. She thought it was a hoax but looking at my face, she probably guessed that it wasn't. We didn't want to believe it but unfortunately, it was true. A couple of moments later, my dad confirmed it to us because he also heard. We were in shock and were confused because her death was a bit of a mystery and too coincedental due to the Grammys.
Yeah, I also feel bad for Bobby and his kids. That truelly was cruel. I don't blame him for what happened to her. I also hope and pray that Bobbi Kristina gets the help and spiritual guidance she needs.
I saw Paul and Nancy honor her by putting flowers on one of Whitney's memorial shrines outside the hotel where she died. He blew a kiss at her and I thought that was wonderful.
Hi GL,
No I don't blame Bobby either, although I didn't always agree with them as a couple in regards to their antics. Did you watch their reality show? That is sad Bobbi Christina had a be the grown-up as a child. This sounds very similiar to Judy Garland and her kids. Judy died a similiar way in her late 40's too. That was sweet of Paul to blow a kiss, although I'm not sure they were friends, although they probably met. It's sad her demise put a damper on his weekend of receiving accolades. He also stated he would stop smoking pot for Beatrice's sake. I saw a recent pic of Bea, she favors both parents. He and Ringo stated they would rock into their 80's if they chose to. I think at some point, you have to know when to call it quits. Well today is George's 69th b-day. I read there will be festivities in Liverpool and LA. Getting Back to Ms. Houston, there are reports that she had a drug problem prior to meeting Bobby, who knows? I did not know she was dating Brandy's brother. Poor guy, he seemed to really care about her. Did you watch the streamlined funeral? I watched most of it, I too was surprised Aretha cancelled. Although I was not a big fan, I admired her talent, and cried a little at the end when the pall bearers carried her casket out to "I Will Always Love You". I stated "Goodbye Whitney". I will send you the link to a letter Cissy wrote to her daughter, if you have not already read it online. I did yesterday, it was touching and spooky. It would be cool if others added their input to this thread, I enjoy talking to you, but different opinions are nice too. I wonder if Whitney's tragic demise was behind Paul's reason to give up pot in a way.