Hollywood sure has changed.... - Thick as Thieves (2009) Discussion

[–] too_rad 16 years ago

and?

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I think the OP is referring to Hollywood's usual tendency to cast actors much younger than would normally convince in their roles, as in having a 20something in Bandaras' role and the "veteran" role usually being occupied by someone perhaps in their mid-late 50s or so. It is an interesting observation, although whether I'd call it a Hollywood-wide change is another thing. Either way, Bandaras and Freeman should hopefully have incredible chemistry, not to mention a rather unique dynamic, so the film should make for an interesting one. Looks promising!

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[–] too_rad 16 years ago

and?

haha just kidding

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[–] stryder19 16 years ago

this movie has been made 10 times over...hollywood has changed because they sometimes neglect creativity in favor of formula. Sounds like that movie with Deniro and Edward Norton to me, um, A Perfect Score or something (unless that's the one about stealing the SAT, i get confused).

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[–] brightmidnight71 15 years ago

Yeah, the one with DeNiro and Norton was The Score. The title was about as original as the plot, but it was fun to watch and, obviously, well acted.
That was the old crook and young crook, along with the one-last-big-job/mission/heist/assignment motif which has also been done to death in many genres.
I like the fact that, as those 20-something actors of the 90s are getting into their mid to late 40s, they're still getting the roles and the characters are just getting more mature and breaking into new areas with new life like Robert Downey, Jr. I think it's making for better films overall. Plus, people like Clint and Freeman are still working a lot so we get to see them with these actors, a lot for the first time.
One does worry about the seeming lack of young talent.

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[–] ChiaroscuroJean 12 years ago

Good call.

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[–] fluffchop 13 years ago

There's plenty of young talent. You're just 20 years older to.

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[–] proteus122 14 years ago

Welcome to the Baby Boomer Generation. It's only going to get worse as Hollywood exploits it. In scary radio announcers voice: "Prepare for Wilford Brimley as the ultimate killing machine"

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[–] matreya 15 years ago

Just looking at the director's credits is enough to make me barf.

She's one of the people that gets work because she's a cousin of some studio exec, and people wonder why Hollywood is regarded as being controlled by a certain group :)

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[–] backwards_pi 15 years ago

You realize the reason is because those older actors are still amazing actors. A new De Niro, a new Ford, a new Hanks, etc have yet to emerge from the latest generation of talent.

That is to say people born in the late seventies and onward. Who do we have? And I'm not talking about the frat pack boys and Apatow and Seth Rogen and that strictly comedic lot. Not that I have anything against those guys (although we could use a new Peter Sellers). I'm not talking about the hot young stars that bring in bank just on their looks.

Seriously, where are today's De Niros, our Harrison Fords, our Tom Hankses. James MacAvoy, Christian Bale, Scarlett Johansen, the now-snatched-from-obscurity slumdog millionaire kid. They could be of the same caliber as the greats. But until the audience makes up its mind, Hollywood will have our increasingly older favorites continue to play characters, and if those characters are supposed to be much younger than the actors really are so be it. I don't see movies because the main character isn't the same age as the actor. I see movies because Morgan Freeman kicks ass and Antonio Banderas is awesome. And ultimately that's what acting is. Playing a character that is something other than yourself. If they can pull it off, excellent. If they can't, hey there's some padding like a hot girl or fancy explosions. It's a movie.

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[–] bluez_inc 15 years ago

Yeah... you know you're talking *beep* right?

Tom Hanks was doing goofy comedies until he was middle aged and suddenly turned into a dramatic actor.

Shia LaBouf is one actor to watch. Javier Bardem is a somewhat new arrival from Spain and he's extremely promising. I already consider him a better actor than Banderas, so we've effectively replaced the hot Spaniard role in Hollywood. We already have Brad Pitt and George Clooney (even though Clooney is getting on in years).

Your assumption that great actors just magically appear is completely wrong, all of those actors didn't reach greatness until mid-career. Harrison Ford is lucky in that he was essentially thrown into a movie that changed everything and then thrown into another epicly amazing movie right after that. All he had to do was act like a badass, no superior acting chops needed. If you'll notice, he plays pretty much the same character in every movie, but he's so good as that one character and he's in so few films (relative to other A-list actors) that it's never had a chance to become old.

So I'm not going to buy this line that everyone says every year, insisting that "Hollywood has gone to the dogs" or that "I remember when Hollywood made good movies!" Because that's all a load of BS.

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[–] hooper-xxx 15 years ago

Not really. If you look at older movies, they always cast old guys in inappropriate roles, for instance Humphrey Bogart in "Sabrina" and the cadaverous Fred Astaire in "Funny Face."

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[–] hilldow 15 years ago

I think there are some up and coming young actors that show a lot of promise...

For example, Emile Hirsch...he was incredible in both Into the Wild and Milk.
I know he's still really young, but Freddie Highmore as well.

Although I will agree they seem to be fewer and farther between.

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