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If you can get past the biggest plot hole (spoilers)


Which is why would a veteran thief recruit an undercover miami cop to be his partner on a score...well then this movie is ok. Maybe I missed it but what was the reason he chose this man? He supposedly knew he was an undercover cop there to bust him but why did that make him an experienced thief as well? hmmm

I dont know but it was decent enough if you like score movies.

There is NO Gene for the Human Spirit.

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Actually, this is rather obvious and the very reason why he was picked!

He was picked precisely because he was an undercover cop that Weber was trying to sneak into his inner circle... and that having a cop as a partner would be very useful if the caper should go wrong and he wind up in jail. Remember that Freeman's character never got convicted because he had good lawyers who could pick apart the holes in the prosecution's case against him.

In this case, if he were to get caught, it could be shown that the undercover cop Martinez not only planned a large part of the caper, but that he then went through with it from start to finish and then left the scene! The jury would want to know why Freeman wasn't taken into custody once the undercover had gathered enough intelligence. Questions would be raised about whether Martinez was a dirty cop. And in the end, it works. Freeman's character is held for a short time and then gets released.

Alex's kidnapping was faked to keep Martinez going through with the entire theft without calling in for backup to arrest him until the theft was completed.

But I think you point out that the film did a bad job of helping people make sense of the convoluted logic.

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Yeah I guess I misssed that. But it makes sense how you explain it.

There is NO Gene for the Human Spirit.

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What Plot Hole? There was no plot.

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How about this:

There's the scene at the Seance lady's where Freeman holds up Banderas. Banderas liberates Freeman's shotgun creating a standoff. Freeman dares him to pull the trigger: "You can't be arrested for armed robbery if you walk around with a gun that has no bullets." Then Banderas... pulls the trigger. Yes, yes, yes, it's possible he read some file indicating Freeman is not a violent criminal (despite the fact the whole film is premised on the Freeman's fake murder at the very beginning), but no cop would ever take the chance. Then no again, no cop would do any of the *beep* described in this film.

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"You can't be arrested for armed robbery if you walk around with a gun that has no bullets."


Freeman's little ditty about arresting with no bullets is erroneous. Armed robbery (or Larceny with Force with Deadly Weapon) has nothing to do with whether or not bullets are indeed in the gun or not. It relates only to the showing of the deadly weapon so as to induce cooperation of the victims. It may however have some effect on another charge (attempted murder) but that's irrelevant in this case.

"When you throw dirt, you lose ground" --old proverb

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What I thought he meant was that if you're literally walking down the street, with a gun which is unloaded, then you cannot be arrested.

Whereas if you're walking down the street, with a gun which is loaded, then you can be arrested.

Obviously if there's evidence that you've used the gun in a robbery (or that you're planning to), then you can be arrested anyway.


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"You can't be arrested for armed robbery if you walk around with a gun that has no bullets."

I'd guess any robbery with a toy gun, water pistol or simply a bomb threat note (or call) is still a felony. It is the make believe effect of an arm and subsequent intimidation that makes it a crime.

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"Gabriel Martin" was supposed to be the pink panther of Miami, he was "robbing" the diamonds just for the thrill.

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