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I didn't quite understand the ending to "Community". When did Shiri Appleby's character become 'one of them'? Was she always nutty, or was she convinced later? That's why she didn't want to leave then?
I figure it must be that, because what kind of woman would want to live under film surveillance and being told when to procreate??
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."
It is just bad writing, as if the writer had no idea how to end the thing. Big cop-out in my opinion, with a very poor ending (which seems to be a trademark of this show). Even bigger plot hole is the attempt of people to "escape" from "The Community"....like, don't most people there have jobs outside ? Why didn't "Superman" just leave his job one day and not come back ? Why couldn't his wife visit a hospital outside and take off ? This requires too high a "willing suspension of disbelief" to be effective.
Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...
Good points, geode. I think what they were driving at was that there were willing members of the "Community", people who had graduated from the Commons into society and these people were....everywhere. The idea I got was that they were trying to tell us that escape is futile...there will always be someone somewhere to bring you back. As far as the female lead character, perhaps it was the old saying, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!"
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well every step of the story, she says something like, " i want this, what are we going to do? We wanted a safe place to raise a family"
It sounded like the whole time, besides her faking pregnancy problems and freaking out after the woman got hit by the car, like she was understanding about the community and their ways.
But maybe she went along with his plan to get his friend involved, but then why would his friend willingly kidnap him after being so supportive before?
I also assume that the wife choose the punishment for her husband, since that was the rule from earlier regarding adultery, so she chose to have his legs removed? wtf?
Better then the other episode I watched though(in sickness and in health). And better than half of the master of horror episodes (witch house) I've seen.
the episode of community did not just break my suspension of disbelief, it beat it up and took it's candy.
there is no way people would resort to amputation, etc.... to have a "perfect community"
seriously, they claim they did all this "research" but they neglected basic psychology. the kind of stress that living with such invasions of norms would skyrocket all sorts of anti social behavior.
all it would take to bust that house of cards would be people like phil. seriously, people would crack and go ape poop and spree kill...and who wants to buy in a neighborhood known for spree killing. i got on this page to find out who the writers of that episode where so that I could forever more avoid them.
I want my 45 minutes back!
I really doubt it, obit. I mean please, if people can escape from the FLDS, they can escape from that insane little neighborhood. It was simply overdone, but I think the wife was going through her own desperation and became obsessed with the idea of a perfect life. I'm thinking though she would never be completely like the others, and maybe she and her husband standing out in some way would be a good thing.
shareShe was very shaky from the first frame. I was even saying to my roommate how can people be married and not know about how they feel and agree about the fundamental things. I am not talking about not knowing if a person likes peas and carrots and not agreeing about a movie. I am talking about her really important issues like wanting kids and him not being aware of it until he comes home one day and finds her with a negative Pregnancy test acting very upset. When he thought she would of been happy. She obviously has been lying about Birth Control and her wanting to have kids. Then they go to this place to buy a house and he wants to ask questions about some of the stuff in the contract but she doesn't care. Those are fundamental important stuff that people need to know about each other before they get married. So I was not surprised that she ended up the way she did at all. I would of been surprised if she went along with the husband with his suspicions from the start.
sharethey used some type of brainwashing technique on her and his friend, don't you notice when they come back from hiding. The friend tells him they are going to be neighbors and has that uncomfortable look on his face like the other people have, that dumbfounded look, and with the way he tells the friend they'll be neighbors.
Community wasn't one of my favorites for the sheer reason that it did seem to have that no way a whole group of people who aren't under Alien control would choose to give up so much of their free will.
The whole episode was inconsistent. Remember at least this couple had a warning. They were told by their friends that the place was not for them because of the restrictions. But they move in any way and for some reason the same couple were brainwashed to trick their best friend in the end.
shareRe the thread in general, it seems like a mistake to me to try to read the episode like a Sherlock Holmes-styled mystery tale, so that you're essentially doing something like a logic puzzle.
The gist of the episode is a satire of gated communities, HOAs (Home Owners Associations), Condo and Co-Op boards etc., and the elements of "human nature" that allow such things to persist in the first place--the desire of many to live in a controlled community. In those communities, others can tell you what you can do with your property, what you can have on your property, even who can or can't live on your property. It's also important for the satire that the protagonist couple didn't read their contract very well.
It's not that those communities have no advantages--again, some people prefer to live in them, and in many areas--Florida, for example--they're often considered some of the more posh places to live (barring living in an area full of 10 million dollar mansions). One advantage to them is that the rules tend to help maintain property values. But there are plenty of other reasons they're liked, especially for folks who are more amenable to "tribal" or communal (in the sense of communes) approaches.
Tracy (Shiri Appleby) was the type of person who might not initially be attracted to such a place, but who might come to prefer it, because ultimately it gave her more of what she wanted out of life--she wanted children so badly, for example--which is probably why she fully turned at the end.
But there are obvious disadvantages to those communities, too, especially for folks who are more libertarian-minded and who at least want the freedom to do whatever the heck they'd like on their own property (although laws in general do not allow complete freedom anyway--that controlled community tendency is so strong that it's almost impossible to escape it unless one lives way out in the boonies somewhere, and this was also the point of stressing the historical/more traditional community connections where it was more common for others to try to conform everyone's behavior to an extent).
I thought the episode was very successful, very entertaining for the above purposes.
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People also seem to be missing the part where the woman in charge said they would kill their families if they left. When that guy got drunk at the party, they killed his brother. Mostly everyone there is terrified.
shareI just thought it was terrible that the Christopher Reeve look-alike ended up in a wheelchair. ;)
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