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someone explain the ending please


yeah ive been only half watching,so was poppy actually mentally ill,was N normal,whats going on?

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My interpretation (which could be completely wrong!) was that Poppy was mentally ill, and it seemed that through her friendship with N she got progressively worse whilst N actually got better.

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I personally don't think that there was anything wrong with poppy at the start.

It is like poppy herself said at one point we all have problems of some sort. Unfortunately being forced to attend the clinic caused Poppy to focus on those problems and over think them. Add to that the stress of not being in control her situation, Her inability to qaulify for the legal aid to help her prove her normality. Try to imagine what it would be like to misdiagnosed like that what it would do to your mental state, ability to cope and stress levels

Also what seems normal to us can be greatly effected by the peer group we keep. Poppys new peer group meant her new self harming actions didn't seem out of the ordinary.

As for N i don't think that there was anything really wrong with her either. She was just living within the cave the professor spoke about. By that i mean that her mothers problems during Ns childhood created a world where having problems was the norm. The knock on effect of Ns mother problems meant that N was never really properly socialised without being stigmatised or labeled. N was also passed from pillar to post within the care system so that she never really had a stable development. In the end N was just playing the role she had been brought up to play. This can be evidence by her prep for her assesment.

When N met Poppy was Ns turning point. It caused N to focus on someone else for the 1st time rather than just herself, Poppys lifestyle was something for N to aspire to. Poppys friendship gsve N a reason to be better and just a reason to be. Prior to poppy Ns only reason to be was to be a dribbler because that was all she knew.

But just as N got a reason to be Poppy was losing her reasons to be. Her lost Job, Her lost freedom and then finally the custody of her daugther.

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i agree mate

'Work is the curse of the drinking classes' Oscar Wilde

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" Unfortunately being forced to attend the clinic caused Poppy to focus on those problems and over think them."

the only person who says she is being forced to attend is Poppy - noone else corroborates her story, except perhaps the lawyer with the "MAD money" conversation. but "MAD money" is not a real term (can you imagine if it was? its rather offensive to people with mental illnesses...) and there is a strong implication that the lawyer is just 'playing along' with Poppy to get him out of her office - he can't take her case, since the clinic she attends is a voluntary outpatient clinic; she isn't really being forced to attend at all.

the fact that she implies the government are involved could either be an Orwellian plot device (in which case the whole film must be taken with a pinch of salt since the reality it attempts to depict is a long way from the reality we all live in) or rather we could read it as a sign that Poppy is suffering from paranoid delusions when she first arrives at the clinic.

in this context the story makes a lot more sense.

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What I took from the whole story was that Poppy was suffering from some sort of delusional disorder [the whole job interview/application] & her belief is her delusion that she was being "forced" to attend the day hospital was so strong that she caves on herself.

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Personaly, I do think N suffered a genuine mental illness but shes so institutionalized the progress she made under Poppys influence collapsed the instance she had to fend for her self in the outside world. I think Poppy is more ambiguous than N, I cant decide if she was already heading towards a mental breakdown or if the stress of what happened precipitated her mental disintegration.

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I perrsonally think Poppy was been used by the doctors as a measure, and the situation drove her mad, or else they doped her up so she wouldn't expose their plan.

Then again the ending is open to interperation.

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