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Why would he be in trouble for cutting the coke?


As long as he paid magnus for the bit he was getting magnus wouldn't care what happened to it after that, i thought he would be in more trouble, if he was getting it on tick/slate/credit and he got robbed, he would have no means to pay it back, but you see at the end, he had loads of money, cos he gave grands to his brother.

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If people aren't satisfied with his product, then they will go get their fix somewhere else = less business for Magnus.

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the bigger dealer would never care what he done with the product as long as he got paid.

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I'm not in the drug trade but I would think that it would reflect badly on the supplier if the quality isn't that great plus he would not like the dealer making extra money off of him behind his back.

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Trust me, the bigger dealer wouldnt care where he is getting the money from, just as long as he got paid.

you think when people buy drugs off a street dealer, they ask who his supplier is?

you think a street dealer would tell them?

they'd think they were an informant or something.

they whole thing is ridiculous.

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It`s not ridiculous.

The big dealer has already cut the drug to the minimum purity BEFORE he gives it to the street dealers, anything cut after that will effect his trade. From what I hear about the drug trade, you`ll be lucky to get 5% purity on a packet of coke brought on the street. Therefroe you will actually lose business if you cut it lower.



"Come on, Doc. We`re not talking about a band-aid or a tube a Ungentine"

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don't worry about what you heard, i'm telling you, as long as the geezer got his money, he wouldn't care.

If he had paid the dealer with a loan from the bank, he wouldn't give a fudd what happened to the coke.

Don't be silly.

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I think you are being a little naive when it comes to business. Forget about the fact that it is an illegal drug and just think of it as a product. The drug business is as competitive as any other, probably more so. If you reduce the quality of your product, against the competition, the customer will find out and simply move on. You may get away with it in the short term, but as any good business man knows, it`s the long term that counts. This is to say nothing of the fact that cutting the coke is making the boss look stuipd. If there is enough margin to cut it back and make even more money, then ask yourself why he didnt do it himself?

This may seem like a win-win situation for everyone concerned, but from a business point of view, it is suicide.



"What was that? An exhibition?"

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i think youare being naive.

i knowloadsofdrug dealers, they do not care what is happeneing with anything as long as they are getting whats owed to them.

Alot of people in here must never been around street people or street business, you seem to be thinking of it in some thought out straight laced business plan lol.

he could give him the drugs, shifty could then flush it down the toilet, but as long as he gave his dealer the money he owed him, everything would be alright, thats why the whole cutting it thing makes no sense at all.

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Your example makes no sense as there is a big difference between cutting the coke and flushing it down the toilet.

Alot of people in here must never been around street people or street business, you seem to be thinking of it in some thought out straight laced business plan lol.


Explain how it is different? Dealers have overheads, employees, targets, forecasts, areas, competition, reputation, even market price flucuations. If this isnt a definition of a business then I dont know what is.

I cant explain it any simpler so you`ll understand, as its clear that you are not business minded. So we`ll have to agree to disagree.




"What was that, an exhibition?"

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the difference is, the people yousell to will never know where you got it from and even by asking where you got it from, you would look at them like they're a grass, they wouldn't even ask.

As long as you paid your dealer (the big guy), everything would be okay.

and even if you sell *beep* charlie, people still buy it, they are drug addicts, sure you can't do it too much, cos you will sell less, but more or less even *beep* charlie sells itself.

you really can't put yourself in this mindstate if you have never been there, you seem to have never set foot on an estate in your life, i wouldn't expect you to understand this.

Selling charlie is not the same as selling fruit and veg at the local market, on paper it seems that way, but you are dealing with way different people.

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Liam, there are so many things wrong in what you think about this, that I dont know where to start. Living on an estate doesnt make you more knowledgable either.

You seem to be approaching this from the point of view that the produce is only being sold to addicts, which seems to mean that they`ll buy anything.

For your information, last summer I had an experience with a weed grower. After his latest crop had dried out, I couldnt believe how much of it he had to throw away. To me, it smelt very strong and looked the part, but he said it was worthless. I asked him why not just mix it in and add more to the weight and get more money. He said that the customers would know and buy it else where as it wouldnt be as strong. There is a "seconds" market but it isnt worth the trouble. Not only that, but if his "cuttings" supplier found out what he was doing, he would not sell to him.

It`s about quality control, supply and demand, you simply dont understand basic business.


"What was that, an exhibition?"

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if u sell gear cut to death regular buyers will stop buying it from you

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Shifty is an employee of Magnus. He doesn't buy the drugs and turn around and sell them. He get's them on consignment, meaning Magnus gives Shifty x amount of drugs and expects x amount of money back. Shifty doesn't buy the drugs, he sells the drugs for Magnus which is why Magnus cares about the quality. The drugs always belong to Magnus, Shifty just sells it for him.

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Exactly. Can't believe it took so many posts before someone said it

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He got a doing over because he was earning on the side - he was cutting the stuff and selling half to the "walshes" (from memory, might be another name) but playing Magnus and not passing on the profit.
It was implied in the movie Glen is Magnus's "man in the city" in that area, so he would get paid and pass the profit to Magnus rather than paying him outright then dividing it up.

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