I did not understand the significance of them talking about which color suit to wear. It was weird. Why were they being so secretive about which suit to wear?
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That sounds likely. I couldn't hear all that they were saying but from their expressions they were awkward in Bunnel's presence. I think from Bunnel's expression there was some jealousy on his part.
That scene was confusing. What i remember is that Salvador is the one who started the conversation about the suit, in a way to kind of bring out their relationship in the open as they had already been found by Bunel in his and Federico's room. I thought that it was typical of Salvador's character atleast in the film. If you remember the scene at the dinner where he asks Federico to recite his poem. I think he liked putting people in uncomfortable situations and then say "revolution" in front of the soldiers. And the suit scene I think is the same way, they'd already been discovered so why hide it really. That's what I think.
I'm interested in your comments and, thinking about it, I tend to agree with you. It would be in keeping with Salvador's character to bring his and Federico's relationship into the open.
yes, I felt like Salvador came off as a provoker, and liked making situations uncomfortable for people and even his lover (Federico). Maybe, because he was not completely comfortable about his sexuality he had to make someone else uncomfortable, like watching how a scene unfolds in real life and how people react or squirm because of his own doing, i guess its manipulative. It kind of reminds me of a scenario where I don't know a group of people are together and a person engages in gay bashing and calls another person out but who is really homosexual themselves. Maybe its like testing boundaries that scene, Because the next scene we see Bunel with a man by a tree about to get serviced but then he beats him up instead (perhaps jealous, or uncomfortable with the situation but wanting to understand the relationship Salvador and Federico had).
I don't know I felt like Salvador did a lot of pushing and pulling if that makes sense. I think he did love Federico but that he could never fully commit. He's like fluid and he can't be pinned down.
I don't know if this makes sense at ALLL. BUT I guess I talk in riddles. hehe
I felt like Salvador came off as a provoker, and liked making situations uncomfortable for people and even his lover (Federico).
That's EXACTLY what he is. Towards the end of the film when he realizes he no longer has a hold on Federico, what does the master manipulator Salvador do--turns on his "lover." And we all know what happens next. That scene really pissed me off. What a vindictive little 'b1tch!'
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p.s. I'm wanting to know what it was that Salvador saw or heard in head during the "love" scene on the roof of a building. It happens twice in the movie, I think. And Federico asks Salvador about it and how Salvador can tell him anything but Salvador doesn't say what it is that he is bothered by or what he "sees". I thought it was interesting and could probably reveal a lot.
I think you should start a thread on this topic - there is so much in the Salvador/Federico relationship that is fascinating and worthy of discussion. Go for it!
The roof top scene is the last time they nearly get together but Dali can't go through with it and he goes off to Paris the next day. Might not have been clear it was on a roof top but it was.