Why Isn't Luke Mably in 3rd film?


I can't understand why Luke Mably isn't in the 3rd film. Does anyone know why?

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Well considering how bad #2 was; he probably knew better then to get involved with the 3rd.

Sam: "I had a really weird dream."
Dean: "Clowns or midgets?"

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I've heard that he didn't want to be in a 2nd film too

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Yeah, that was the rumor, that he was contractually obligated to be in it. I don't think any up and coming actor wants to go from starring in a theatrical released film to starring in a straight to DVD sequel of it.

Smart move not to do #3, IMHO. Shame we don't get to see more of Luke Mably though.

Sam: "I had a really weird dream."
Dean: "Clowns or midgets?"

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He did seem to just sleepwalk through the entire 2nd movie. I guess that's why he ran like hell from the 3rd film.

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Both the 3. and 4. films have improved immensely with Kam Heskin and Chris Geere instead of julia Stiles and Luke Mably.
Luke Mably really did a poor job in nr 2. I don't miss him at all!!

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He didn't do a poor job in the second movie... it was just a poor movie in general.

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He did a miserable job.
He didn't even bother to pretend he was acting. He had no charm, no humour and no talent.
Look how much more charming and fun, Chris Gere plays the part in the next 2 sequels.

And the movie wasn't worse than most.

It wasn't an oscar winner - but it was fun, cute and pleasant in many ways.

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Because it was a God-awful movie and he knew it. He put the minimum amount of effort in (i.e. showing up) because no matter how well he performed, the movie would have still sucked.

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You know, a real actor always does his best in every movie he is in. That's how you can tell a good actor from a bad one! The second 'Prince and Me' wasn't a great movie, didn't pretend to be, either - but it might have been a fun and charming fairy tale movie - had Luke Mably not been in it! The rest of the actors did a great job: Jon Firth, Kam Heskin and ..... Too bad they didn't replace Luke mably with Cris Gere already in the 2. one.

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No... no they didn't. The rest of the actors did not do a great job. The best performance can be described as mediocre AT BEST. Every movie after the first was just a complete disaster and is the epitome is why the movie industry is in such shambles: instead of putting in any kind of effort of coming up with something new, they just revamp old concepts and make unnecessary sequels. Kudos to Julia Stiles and Miranda Richards for knowing to get out after the first one (i.e. the only good one).

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of course you are entitled to your own opinion anytime - just as long as you don't mistake it for the truth!

The first film was good fun - but disappointing that Julia Styles and Luke Mably were both quite plain and totally lacked sexappeal.
The only reason I watched it was because of the Danish theme (I am Danish!)

The second one was a lot more fun - and Kam Heskind was a gain being a lot prettier and more regal than JS. Also she added sexappeal and sweetness to the part.

Also Jonathan Firth was great as Søren.

Those 2 newcomers both did their best!

The only person who sabotaged the whole project was Luke mably - and one must suppose he signed the contract of his own free will! So having to fulfill an unwanted contract is no excuse.
It's his fault only that P+M 2 is not as entertaining

P+M 3 and 4 were absolutely the best. None of the sequels are 'great' movies - and they don't pretend to be.

They are just fairy tales, entertaining and good fun.

Kam Heskind, Chris Geere and Jon Firth all did great jobs. They were enthusiastic and fitted their parts perfectly.




So stop the negative critizism. It's totally unfair

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of course you are entitled to your own opinion anytime - just as long as you don't mistake it for the truth!
An opinion can be objectively true: which mine is. It is objectively true that this movie was terrible. General public consensus supports this. It has terrible ratings and terrible reviews.

So stop the negative critizism. It's totally unfair
Umm, no. As you said I am entitled to my opinion and this is not a fan site. I am more than welcome to criticize this movie in any way I want.

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Obviously you don't know what 'objectively' means!

It means you are expressing facts - that you are NOT expressing your own opinion.

Your opinion is that this movie is terrible - that is not a fact and it is not objective.

if you want to debate - then please do get facts straight!

that you waste so much time on a movie you hate is beyond me.

I like it - it's a funny, cute and enjoyable movie.
The actors do a great job - and both kam Heskin and Chris Geere do a far better job than the two original actors.

You are very welcome to keep wasting your time arguing with me - if you do -stick to what is your own opinion.

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Obviously you don't know what 'objectively' means!

It means you are expressing facts - that you are NOT expressing your own opinion.
That is one definition. Some of the others include "not influenced by personal feelings or prejudice" and "unbiased." That is the context of my use of the word. I am completely unbiased in my opinion of the movie. And my opinion was not influenced by personal feelings or prejudice. I love the first one and was excited to see this one. And it was garbage.

Your opinion is that this movie is terrible - that is not a fact and it is not objective.
An objective fact is that this movie has terrible ratings and poor reviews. It's a terrible movie.

if you want to debate - then please do get facts straight!
What facts should I get straight? That his movie is rated a 4.2/10 on IMDb and a 30% on Rotten Tomatoes? That this movie has widely negative reviews?

that you waste so much time on a movie you hate is beyond me.
Well luckily you don't have to concern yourself with how I choose to spend my time.

I like it - it's a funny, cute and enjoyable movie.
Good for you.

The actors do a great job - and both kam Heskin and Chris Geere do a far better job than the two original actors.
Ha! Nope. Absolutely not.

You are very welcome to keep wasting your time arguing with me - if you do -stick to what is your own opinion.
Oh so now you're dictating what people can post? Get over yourself, I'll post whatever I want.

This movie is terrible. It's terrible-ness is supported by ratings, reviews, and general opinions. The actors do not perform well. This is objectively true as well.

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You are an extremely arrogant person!

You are in fact passing on your own opinion as the truth.

What does it matter, how this movie is rated here or there?

It is NOT a bad movie.
I've seen worse which were highly acclaimed by the critics, who are often arrogant people like yourself, who for diverse reasons want people to believe, they know better.......!

Julia Stiles was way too plain for this part. She also lacked the charm and sweetness, that Kam Heskin had.
Her acting was plain, too.
Neither she nor Luke Mably were able to make me believe in their love story.



Kam Heskin was a huge improvement in the 3 next sequels.
Luke Mably was bad in the first and sucked in the second.

Chris Geere did a great job - he had the charm and regality the part required.

The second Prince and me was NOT terrible.
It was fun and cute and entertaining ( would have been a lot better had Chris Geere played Eddie).

It doesnt pretend to be great art - it's just fun.

It's beyond me, why you still bother trying to impose your opinion on me on this movie, which you hate....

But by all means keep wasting your time.....

You are not right .......





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You are an extremely arrogant person!
Lol okay... what an entirely unnecessary ad hominem.

You are in fact passing on your own opinion as the truth.

What does it matter, how this movie is rated here or there?
Umm because ratings are an indication of public opinion, which is an indicator of the quality of a movie. Poor ratings, poor movie.

It is NOT a bad movie.
I've seen worse which were highly acclaimed by the critics, who are often arrogant people like yourself, who for diverse reasons want people to believe, they know better.......!
It is a bad movie. General consensus agrees on this.

Julia Stiles was way too plain for this part. She also lacked the charm and sweetness, that Kam Heskin had.
The character isn't supposed to be charming or sweet. She is supposed to be abrasive and career-oriented. So basically what you're saying is that Kam Heskin did a poor job of playing the character because she decided to make the character vastly different than what she is supposed to be (as established by the first movie).

Kam Heskin was a huge improvement in the 3 next sequels.
Luke Mably was bad in the first and sucked in the second.
Lol, no.

Chris Geere did a great job - he had the charm and regality the part required.
Lol, no.

The second Prince and me was NOT terrible.
It was fun and cute and entertaining ( would have been a lot better had Chris Geere played Eddie).
Lol, no.

It doesnt pretend to be great art - it's just fun.
Lol well it certainly isn't great by any stretch of the imagination.

It's beyond me, why you still bother trying to impose your opinion on me on this movie, which you hate....
Well it's beyond me why you are so concerned with what I think of this movie to the extent that you are so adamant to convince me otherwise.

But by all means keep wasting your time.....
I don't consider it a waste of time. This is so much fun!

You are not right .......
Oh don't worry, I am. This movie is a steaming pile of rancid garbage with a horrible cast who did a horrible job.


But anyway, I hope insulting me made you feel better about adoring such a horrible excuse for a movie.

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Well - just keep going - that doesn't make you right.

It's not a bad movie - however if you don't like it - ok with me.

it's arrogant to try to pass your own opinion off as 'a fact'...

Just because a lot of arrogant critics mean the same as you (or vice versa...) still does not make it 'a fact'.

Why on earth do you think, I try to insult you?

I try to teach you a lesson here......

The Prince and Me sequels are entertaining and fun - and getting better with Kam Heskin and Chris Geere in the leading parts.

Those movies don't pretend to be high art - and don't have to be to be fun and entertaining.







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Well - just keep going - that doesn't make you right.
No, widespread public consensus makes me right.

It's not a bad movie - however if you don't like it - ok with me.
It is a bad movie - however if you like it - search me?

it's arrogant to try to pass your own opinion off as 'a fact'...
Pot, meet kettle.

Just because a lot of arrogant critics mean the same as you (or vice versa...) still does not make it 'a fact'.
Well it goes far beyond "arrogant critics"... public opinion of this movie is that it is terrible. There isn't even a critic review on Rotten Tomatoes (this movie was so bad, critics didn't even bother with it), this movie's piss poor rating comes from audience reviews.

So just because you are a hopeless apologist of this horrible film does not make it good.

Why on earth do you think, I try to insult you?
Ugh okay so now you're going to pretend like you didn't sling insults. Or are you going to tell me that "arrogant" is a compliment? Whatever I'm not going to press this because I genuinely don't care. If ad hominem is what you need to resort to, then by all means.

The Prince and Me sequels are entertaining and fun - and getting better with Kam Heskin and Chris Geere in the leading parts.
Wait, what was that thing you said about passing off your opinion as a fact?

Those movies don't pretend to be high art - and don't have to be to be fun and entertaining.
Right, but let me try to teach you a little lesson here (see I can be condescending too): just because you enjoy something, doesn't make it good. I mean you just admitted that this movie is trash (or as you put it doesn't pretend to be art - which means it isn't good). You enjoy a crappy movie. Cool. Everyone has horrible movies they love.

One of my all time favorite movies is The Covenant. That movie is a hot mess. It is a HORRIBLE movie. But I love it. This movie if garbage but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. But on the flip side, you enjoying a movie doesn't make it good.

This movie is objectively bad - widespread audience consensus agrees on this. But you can still enjoy watching it.

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Well - just keep going - that doesn't make you right.
No, widespread public consensus makes me right.

It's not a bad movie - however if you don't like it - ok with me.
It is a bad movie - however if you like it - search me?

it's arrogant to try to pass your own opinion off as 'a fact'...
Pot, meet kettle.

Just because a lot of arrogant critics mean the same as you (or vice versa...) still does not make it 'a fact'.
Well it goes far beyond "arrogant critics"... public opinion of this movie is that it is terrible. There isn't even a critic review on Rotten Tomatoes (this movie was so bad, critics didn't even bother with it), this movie's piss poor rating comes from audience reviews.

So just because you are a hopeless apologist of this horrible film does not make it good.

Why on earth do you think, I try to insult you?
Ugh okay so now you're going to pretend like you didn't sling insults. Or are you going to tell me that "arrogant" is a compliment? Whatever I'm not going to press this because I genuinely don't care. If ad hominem is what you need to resort to, then by all means.

The Prince and Me sequels are entertaining and fun - and getting better with Kam Heskin and Chris Geere in the leading parts.
Wait, what was that thing you said about passing off your opinion as a fact?

Those movies don't pretend to be high art - and don't have to be to be fun and entertaining.
Right, but let me try to teach you a little lesson here (see I can be condescending too): just because you enjoy something, doesn't make it good. I mean you just admitted that this movie is trash (or as you put it doesn't pretend to be art - which means it isn't good). You enjoy a crappy movie. Cool. Everyone has horrible movies they love.

One of my all time favorite movies is The Covenant. That movie is a hot mess. It is a HORRIBLE movie. But I love it. This movie if garbage but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. But on the flip side, you enjoying a movie doesn't make it good.

This movie is objectively bad - widespread audience consensus agrees on this. But you can still enjoy watching it.

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So you think repeating your comment makes it more right???????

you'll never be right - you express your opinion, which you are entitled to - but it doesn't make you right.... Sorry!

P&M sequels are not high art - but they are fun and entertaining - that is not the same as being a bad movie.
If you don't like them - why so eager to get the last word in this discussion?
All you need to do is not to watch them.
Go watch your favorite horrible movie, whatever it was.....?

"This movie is objectively bad - widespread audience consensus agrees on this."= still has nothing to do with objectiveness - just more people's own opinions.

That P&M isn't high art does not mean that they are bad, terrible, crappy and other words you use to try and 'prove' your point.

I don't enjoy a 'crappy' movie - again it just proves how arrogant yoiu are!

Yes - I call you arrogant!
persons who insist on imposing their own opinion on others - and pass it on as 'facts' ARE arrogant - (that includes most of the official critics as well! - they are just being paid for doing just that!)

Many people like P&M.

And if the "widespread public consensus" don't - who cares. Just their opinion - not facts - (and often the "widespread public consensus" feel bullied by arrogant critics to say the same. (Read The Emperors New Clothes - by my fellow countryman H.C. Andersen!)).

P&M are fun and entertaining movies - and just improved a lot after Kam Heskin, Chris Geere and Jonathan Firth took over the main parts.

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So you think repeating your comment makes it more right???????

you'll never be right - you express your opinion, which you are entitled to - but it doesn't make you right.... Sorry!
Sigh, I was hoping by repeating you would begin to understand. I'll try again. You see my opinion has a widespread general consensus backing it up. So the statement "The Prince & Me 3: A Royal Honeymoon is a bad movie" is a more objectively true statement (since the vast majority of reviews and ratings agree on that) than your claim that it is good.

P&M sequels are not high art - but they are fun and entertaining - that is not the same as being a bad movie.
Not universally, but in this case they are the same thing. This movie is objectively bad.

If you don't like them - why so eager to get the last word in this discussion?
I already told you, I find this exchange to be increasingly entertaining. You are the one who has continuously told me I am free to have my opinion and you don't care what I have to say, and yet you keep coming back. Between the two of us, I think you are the one who is desperate to get the last word in (you bringing it up basically confirmed that to me).

All you need to do is not to watch them.
And I won't.

Go watch your favorite horrible movie, whatever it was.....?
I do watch it. Frequently.

"This movie is objectively bad - widespread audience consensus agrees on this."= still has nothing to do with objectiveness - just more people's own opinions.
Sure it does. When the vast majority of people hold an opinion about something then that opinion is objectively correct.

That P&M isn't high art does not mean that they are bad, terrible, crappy and other words you use to try and 'prove' your point.
As I said, not universally, but in this case, it does.

I don't enjoy a 'crappy' movie - again it just proves how arrogant yoiu are!
In what way does that prove my arrogance?

Yes - I call you arrogant!
persons who insist on imposing their own opinion on others - and pass it on as 'facts' ARE arrogant - (that includes most of the official critics as well! - they are just being paid for doing just that!)
And that's fine, you can call me whatever you want. But don't then turn around and pretend like you weren't throwing insults. Own up to it.

Many people like P&M.
Definitely. Well the first one I mean. The second and third are garbage.

And if the "widespread public consensus" don't - who cares. Just their opinion - not facts - (and often the "widespread public consensus" feel bullied by arrogant critics to say the same. (Read The Emperors New Clothes - by my fellow countryman H.C. Andersen!)).
But as I already mentioned, there really isn't any critic reviews of this movie (that's how bad it is). So the public didn't feel bullied into their reviews of this movie, they came to their conclusion after watching it all on their own. The vast majority of people independently came to the conclusion that this movie is horrendous.

P&M are fun and entertaining movies - and just improved a lot after Kam Heskin, Chris Geere and Jonathan Firth took over the main parts.
Lol, no.


I look forward to your response since I know you just need to get the last word in.

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No no and no.

You can repeat from now on until Ragnarok.
You are still not right.

If one bill. people agreed with you - you were still not right TO CLAIM that P&M 2-4 are bad movies.All you can claim is that you don't like them!
If 1 bill. people don't like them - IT IS JUST their OPINION - NOT THE TRUTH!

And arrogant you are indeed - because you think, I'm the one who needs to understand - it's the other way around. You never listened to what I say.

P&M 2-4 are fun and entertaining to a lot of people. And we don't care about what stuck-up, media-paid critic-tyrants mean.

And that is the end of this stupid debate.

Have a grerat life and learn to respect other peoples' opinion.......

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You can repeat from now on until Ragnarok.
You are still not right.
No don't worry, I'm right. This movie is bad.

If one bill. people agreed with you - you were still not right TO CLAIM that P&M 2-4 are bad movies.All you can claim is that you don't like them!
By that logic, you can't claim they are good. You can only claim that you liked them. Also, they are bad.

If 1 bill. people don't like them - IT IS JUST their OPINION - NOT THE TRUTH!
So you're admitting the movie isn't good? Because according to you, nobody can claim the movie is bad or good.

And arrogant you are indeed - because you think, I'm the one who needs to understand - it's the other way around. You never listened to what I say.
Oh I definitely heard what you said, you're just wrong.

P&M 2-4 are fun and entertaining to a lot of people. And we don't care about what stuck-up, media-paid critic-tyrants mean.
Well you apparently care enough to keep defending it. If you actually didn't care, my opinion should mean nothing and you wouldn't feel the need to keep telling me how wrong I am. This movie sucks, and that opinion doesn't come from "stuck-up, media-paid critic-tyrants," all reviews are from the audience and they are all say the movie is garbage.

And that is the end of this stupid debate.
I'll believe that when I see it. I'm confident you'll be coming back swinging. 

Have a grerat life and learn to respect other peoples' opinion.......
As long as the opinion isn't stupid, I'll definitely respect it. Unfortunately your opinion of this movie doesn't qualify.

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i don't even want to question it.

i'm glad he's not in it. x_x

e.e. cummings style!

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Poor Jonathan Firth.

Such talent, wasted in such a bad movie. The first one was pretty good, the second was bad, and the third will probably be awful.



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I'm just glad that Luke regained his senses and jumped ship before this disaster. I felt bad for him in the second one though cause it was sucky!!!

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thats a pretty stupid question. when he heard of a 3rd installment, he probably tore or burned the script

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I actually nodded my head in agreement with this =P

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Because his queen was not the right queen. Luke is an excellent actor but he needs a better partner for the 4th one. Luke Mably and Katie Holmes would be an excellent couple choice!

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The first one did so poorly that he did not want to be attached to any other Prince and Me films but due to his contract he was obligated for the second film and once his contract expierd he walked away from the film series. That’s why he is not in the sequels. Julia stiles did not want to be in the sequels either and due to scheduling conflicts for another movie she was able to get out of it.

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I don't know myself, I felt it was a shame that Julia Stiles did not do the 2nd one, of course after watching about 30 minutes of the 2nd one I did not care for it. Julia and Luke had great screen chemistry.

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I agree....and many of the enjoyable movies of the 30's and 40's were clearly light on plot but....LONG on chemistry. Stiles and Mably could succeed with another film (not involving Princes I hope), assuming they can stand each other off-camera!

Perhaps losing the superior supporting cast caused Stiles to exit. Their loss was apparent in #2. Or....could it have been the paycheck?

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Probably because he hoped to work again, and being in this piece of crap would probably prevent that.

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Because Chris Geere is a better actor, more handsome, and all around better choice!!

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