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Rubbish

posted 16 years ago by olyle
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I am sorely disappointed in both Ingrid Newkirk and PeTA after watching this documentary.

They spend more time trying to raise money and get attention than actually helping animals. In all of their efforts, the Humane Society and various other REAL animal care centers are the ones who actually do the most good for animals.

Ingrid Newkirk is an attention begging hag who just gave me a bitter taste in my mouth toward her and her organization.

Don't get me wrong... ALL animals should be treated with dignity and respect for what they give us... nourishment, companionship, amazement at what nature has to offer, etc. However, going out of your way to attack over 6 billion meat-eating beings that make up the human population on the globe is a wasted effort and downright ridiculous.

When you go as far as PeTA goes in trying to make a point, that goal is lost, and you end up looking like fools. If you have such strong convictions as PeTA members/employees/etc have against treating living things poorly, then you have to go all the way, that includes the trees, plants, etc... ALL living things. You can't pick one and blow off the rest, everything is in the same basket on this earth.. we're all creatures living on this planet, so everything is special, and there's an endless chain that makes up the system. FOOD CHAIN INCLUDED!!

If you want to push.. "People should be punished for eating meat" then you should be punishing sharks for eating other fish, punishing cats from eating mice, and punishing lions for eating wildebeest, etc.

/I'm having a steak for dinner!

[–] gkpete 16 years ago

She is a nonsensical mediawhore.

[–] jgarfield70 16 years ago

I could not have put it better myself. The Humane Society actually cares about animals while PETA only cares about their own publicity, money, and causing a spectical.

Treat animals with respect but they are NOT equal to humans. Medical research on animals has saved millions if not billions of people from an early grave. Case in point hypocrite diabetic PETA executive Mary Beth Sweetland who uses insulin - she takes medicine that is made possible by killing animals but she doesn't want anyone else to have the same rights.

[–] gkpete 16 years ago

Oh, let's not get too carried away. You mean your local Humane Society, NOT the HSUS, which is just as ridiculous as PETA, just not as publicized. But, yes, PETA sucks.

[–] BlissfullyUncool 16 years ago

"If you want to push.. "People should be punished for eating meat" then you should be punishing sharks for eating other fish, punishing cats from eating mice, and punishing lions for eating wildebeest, etc."

The difference between humans and those animals is that humans are capable of making choices to avoid causing suffering. The other animals eat out of instinct and necessity; we do as well but we have countless choices to make about what we eat. You can still be healthy and thriving while eating a vegan or vegetarian diet.

And do you see those other animals building slaughterhouses? Breeding each other for consumption?

It isn't a reasonable comparison.

"Don't get me wrong... ALL animals should be treated with dignity and respect for what they give us... nourishment, companionship, amazement at what nature has to offer, etc. However, going out of your way to attack over 6 billion meat-eating beings that make up the human population on the globe is a wasted effort and downright ridiculous."

If you truly believe that "ALL animals" deserve dignity and respect then you should certainly be aware of where your food is coming from. Was that steak you had treated with dignity and respect before it became your food? Do you even know? Go check out the slaughterhouse where it came from and tell me if you see any dignity and respect.

Don't make a statement like that if you aren't willing to back it up in your own life.

[–] gkpete 16 years ago

Well, that's partly right. Slaughterhouses are not great places. Adults can do fairly well on vegetarian diets. Vegan....I'm not even going to come close to backing. But people should NOT be punished for eating meat. It's our choice.

I've heard that arguement before as well (dignity). I eat venison that I shoot and kill myself legally. Those animals are usually shot once and die within two seconds and there is no purposely wounding them to torture and eventually kill them (as many PETArds claim). Yet PETArds routinely say this is still inhumane. That's the hypocricy I can't stand from PETA and it goes with so many of their arguments it's sickening. They aren't happy unless all animals are seperated from humans in every way possible.

[–] olyle 16 years ago

You are trying to disconnect humans from animals. WE ARE ANIMALS... we have instincts,and as evident in our mouths.. our teeth show us to be meat eaters. I know people can be vegetarian/vegan and do okay, but that's going directly against what the human being is meant to do on this earth.. eat meat.

All animals deserve dignity and respect because they're our food, and not something to take agression out on, mutilate, harm for other purposes, etc. The steak I ate may or may not have been treated with dignity, but I assume that a slaughterhouse wants efficiency in their business, and wants the product (BEEF) to be through the system and on my plate as quickly as possible. If they blow it's head off, cut it off, stab it in the heart, whatever they have to do, I'm okay with as long as it isn't unreasonably tortured to death. (Unreasonably being skinned alive, or having steaks cut off of it while it's walking around)

You're obviously someone who has an unnatural affinity to think of edible animals as something else. The food chain isn't going away, it's instinct. It's arrogant to try and lift yourself above the truth, and deny that we're apart of the environment just like a rat, a tiger, a baboon, or whatever else.

[–] melinda-55 16 years ago

I think the reason PeTA goes to such extreme lengths to get their point across, is because THE POINT IS NOT GETTING ACROSS!!!!!!!!

The question is not whether or not we're at the top of the food chain. We are. Ok.

The problem lies within the fact that the meat that you are eating is being produced by hideous, torturous factory farming.

I’m a vegetarian because of this reason. I used to loooooove meat, it tasted gooood. I even had a t-shirt that said “Animals Taste Great” . The thing is, after seeing the absolute atrocities that are happening in slaughterhouses everywhere, now meat just leaves a dead taste in my mouth and I don’t want to be part of it anymore.

Obviously the slaughtering of an animal can not be pretty, but it’s worse than you think….If you want to really see what’s happening inside a slaughterhouse, watch any one of the clips on this page: http://www.petatv.com/veg.html

It may not change your mind but after really seeing what goes on you can make an informed decision…