thank you paul gross


canadians rarely make war films,and only a handfull about w.w.1.Im glad that passchendaele has been made.Now we can show the rest of the world Canada's contribution to that war

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you're in for some terrible news

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I have to assume that you didn't see it. Think Canadian version of "Pearl Harbor". A love story sandwiched around some great battle scenes.
People would be better off watching a good documentary in order to see Canada's contribution.

The only thing that counts in the end is POWER! Naked merciless FORCE!

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agreed

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i have seen it and i'm sorry there's no vin disel or jet li in it, like the *beep* that hollywood puts on the screen and calls it entertainment these days.Canada's youth should have respect for the men and women who died for their freedom.Paul Gross didn't need to make an event film like the u.s has to do every other year,just to reasure the world that they were in the war.It was a very Canadian film.if there was a romance in it,so what.Be proud your Canadian and stop bitching.

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Bravo :')

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Never mind the so called critics, this is one of the better films in recent years, and the action sequences are superior to those of Saving private ryan,

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I haven't seen Saving Private Ryan in years, so I'm going to avoid the comparison, but I agree that it's one of the better films in years. :]

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Look i am canadian, i'm also a movie fan. When i see a bad movie i know it, Canadian or not, this movie was crap beyond crap.

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You're welcome to dislike it, but that doesn't make me love it any less. :b

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I saw this movie last night and quite enjoyed it. Of course it had a few stupid Hollywood style battle scenes, but overall it is definitely worth seeing. It actually seemed to portray some of the horrors that actually occurred during World War I. It also seemed to reflect the xenophobic fears toward Germans that many felt during the War.

About the only thing I didn't like was how when Paul Gross was dragged back to HQ in the middle of the battle and received a battlefield promotion (and a "new" name), then was returned to the battle and everyone accepted him as their new commander. You would think that an explanation for everything to the troops would be required for them to take orders. I have never been in the military, but from what I understand orders are only taken from your CO, anything else is considered a disobeyance and is considered illegal. So with that in mind, I really doubt the 10th would suddenly accept his orders.

The only other thing that bothered me about the movie was why the little brother thought it a good idea to mount a one man charge into the German trench? What did he think he was going to do when he got there? Become Superman and kill every one in there? What the Germans did to him by crucifying him made complete sense to me though. Instill fear in your enemies by being cruel.

Even if everyone else was expecting a Saving Pvt. Ryan/Band of Brothers thing with this, I was not. It seems that Canadian filmmakers tend not engage in chest thumping, salute the flag, all soldiers are Superman type of war that Americans do. Just look to Shake Hands With The Devil and you will see the similarities between that one and this one. I do think more movies about Canadian military encounters is needed. Perhaps one about the War of 1812 where Canada defeated the Americans and occupied Detroit would be a good start.

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It is odd that they accepted his orders. It could have reflected their intense desperation to finish what they had started and make it out. People often become irrational when they're afraid, or they'll do anything for survival. Perhaps Paul's character, for them, symbolized some kind of escape.

I can't think of any justification for the little brother's actions except that he was being moronic as usual. Also, perhaps some kind of shock or mental state that caused him to abandon all fear? It seems he wasn't thinking, just acting on an impulse, or a grand delusion of a one-man conquer. I thought maybe it was just a suicide thing at first. Who knows. :/

I haven't seen Shake Hands with the Devil, but now I'm definitely interested.

What it comes down to is that war is nothing to be proud of, and killing someone, whether it's for a 'winning' cause or not, is going to affect the killer for the rest of their life. It all is horrifying and shouldn't be glorified. :(

And speaking of glory, I know this film isn't exactly pure rawness, but I think it has a lot more good qualities than bad ones. :)

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What smells is your take on history. British soldiers won some battles in the War of 1812 before making peace a few days before they got waxed in New Orleans and going home, thereby accepting American independence once and for all. Don't belittle Canada's contribution to the Allied victories in the World Wars by dusting off that tired old anti-American nonsense many Canucks seem to spout off whenever they get a chance. Do I like recycled Reaganites or a lot of the other absurdity that goes on these days in my homeland? No. Does the English and French speaking world owe a debt of gratitude to the U.S. for turning the tide of WWI and stopping fascism and perverted "communist" tyranny from overtaking the world in the 20th century? Yes. Ever hear of the Marshall Plan? Western Europe's infrastructure is currently more modern than that of the U.S. because the U.S. paid to rebuild much of the continent after liberating it from Nazi psychopaths and keeping Stalin behind his wall. No offense to the reasonable Canucks out there, but some of you (I work with many) remind me of the Trustafarian son of Daddy Warbucks who enjoys his privileged existence while berating that which makes it possible. Our many flaws notwithstanding, I still think the world is better off not speaking Russian, Japanese, or German, savvy?

As for the Third World, I don't know if conquest/domination by any of the other world powers who made their play in the last century or so would have been any better for them or not. I rather doubt it. In an ideal world, there would be no exploitation whatsoever to be found anywhere. Sadly, that world has yet to materialize. Though certain Eastern sages and even isolated societies have been attaining enlightenment for quite some time now, many of them were massacred and/or enslaved by Mongols and Muslims long before Yankee Imperialism was even a distant dream. If the U.S. ceased to exist, would Russia and China suddenly become warm and fuzzy?

Anyway, regarding this film, Passchendaele should not have been the title. "I'll Be Loving You Forever" or "I'll Carry Your Obnoxious Girl of a Brother's Cross Until The End of Time" would have been more apropos... It's a shame, really. I wanted to like this film and what scant war footage actually made it to the screen is quite good, heavy-handed allegorical absurdity notwithstanding...

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Actually many of the men already knew who he was. If you remeber the native man in the unit was he one he saved in the first scene of the film.

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And thats good i'm not trying to make you dislike it.

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I know, I was just standing behind my opinion, as respectfully as possible. <3

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YES! THANK YOU! War is not about the romanticised glory seeking that Hollywood pushes is war movies that, although action packed, lack the rising change on what war means to people from WWI onward.

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Mate, I'm all for being proud of my country. My grandfather died in ww2 so I have a great amount of respect for any and every person that puts their life on the line for their country.
But regardless, this movie was a stinking pile of poo. Horrible, wooden acting, bad dialogue, cheesy things like that little bit with the cross at the end. It took them 75% of the movie to get to the actual war for gods sake! This was a horribly sappy chickflick disguised as a war movie and if we're being real, an insult to our entire country.
I wasn't expecting it to be an overly great film, but this was just plain sad and a waste of money.


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"men and women who died for their freedom"

What!!??

You comment displays a total ignorance about the genesis, course and consequences of the totally unnecessary First World War. Rather it displays that you know nothing about the useless squandering of lives by incompetent generals and mindless nationalists (like you) which the battle of Passchendaele and the Third Battle of Ypres epitomizes.

These "men and women" died senselessly in a futile cause because of mindless nationalism and ignorant dogma. You are antithetical to a true patriot.

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It's "proud 'you're' Canadian", not " 'your' Canadian". What does Canada's youth showing respect for veterans have to do with the fact that Paul Gross sucks and so does this film? He wasted tons of money for his own ego and the best/worst part is he does not realize that he has just solidified his legacy as a huge ass. The man needs to take acting 101. As for the people talking about the fight sequences, they obviously have no idea what they are talking about.

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I always wanted to see a war film about Canadians. Hope there's one about WWII next.


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i don know exactly but i think contribution of canadian soldiers in WWII is not that much.

about the movie i think its fine and well directed.though there were certainly some questions about some scenes,i never felt boring watching this.

like the way it killed Dunne...too much dramatic....it could be made pathetic even without letting mann running sstupidly and later again going to save him in another stupid way....

But other than i liked the movie....thanks for another good war film on a story of a different place..like canada.....

it would be fine if all the stories come out this way through film...i would love to see some about the Burma front....

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Seriously, Canadians didn't contribute much to WW2? Pull your head out of your arse, and smell the fresh air.

Here I'll give you a little history lesson:

-Commonwealth Air Training Plan, which trained 135,000 pilots and aircrew, from 22 different countries, in Canada.

-1.1 million Canadians served in the army, navy, and air force.

-Canadian Merchant Navy completed over 25,000 voyages across the Atlantic

-1.1 million Canadian servicemen had participated in the war. Canada's military deaths in the Second World War (which included 1,167 deaths from wounds to the end of 1947) are recorded as 46,250 (inducing 1,656 Canadian merchant seamen).

-Canada's output of nearly 800,000 trucks, for instance, exceeded the combined total truck production of Germany, Italy, and Japan.

-Approximately 16,000 aircraft, including Lancaster and Mosquito bombers, were built in Canada.

-By the end of 1944, Canadian shipyards had launched naval ships, such as destroyers, frigates, corvettes, and some 345 merchant vessels.

-half of Allied aluminum and ninety percent of Allied nickel was supplied by Canadian sources during the war.

-over 167,000 Commonwealth air force personnel, including more than 50,000 pilots, trained at airbases in Canada from 1940 to 1945. More than half of the BCAT graduates were Canadians who went on to serve with the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF)and Royal Air Force (RAF)

-Fought through the long Italian Campaign.

-Canadians helped greatly throughout the campaign, capturing the town of Ortona and playing a vital role in breaking the Gothic Line. During the course of the Italian Campaign, over 25, 000 Canadian soldiers became casualties of war.

-RCAF and individual Canadian pilots flying with the British RAF fought with distinction in Spitfire and Hurricane fighters during the Battle of Britain

-The Dieppe Raid, over a thousand were killed and another 2,340 were captured.

-Two Canadians were recognized with the Victoria Cross for actions at Dieppe; Lieutenant Colonel "Cec" Merritt of the South Saskatchewan Regiment and Honorary Captain John Foote of the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry.

-1st Canadian Division and the 1st Canadian Tank Brigade took part in the Allied invasion of Sicily in Operation Husky, 10 July 1943 and also the Allied invasion of mainland Italy on September 3, 1943.

-Liberation of the Netherlands

There you go, if you need to see more proof that Canadians contributed a hell of a lot during WW2, I'll be glad to post some more facts about their contribution.

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Don't forget about THE spy training facility that all allies sent men to. Camp X

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Well said, mate. As a Brit, I'd like to respectfully add that fourteen thousand Canadian soldiers stormed Juno Beach on D-Day, with a quote from historian John Keegan -
“At the end of the day, its forward elements stood deeper into France than those of any other division. The opposition the Canadians faced was stronger than that of any other beach save Omaha. That was an accomplishment in which the whole nation could take considerable pride.”

On the subject of the film itself, not sure if many people commenting here actually watched it, their comments show they didn't quite get it.

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This movie is better than any Hollywood produced war movie. The closest comparison would be the Australian mini series, Anzacs.

If you want to see a war movie with lots of action, explosions, John Wayne or Tom Hanks type heroes and battle after battle, this movie isn't for you.

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Canadian Pearl Harbor. Nuff Said.

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ITA. Thank you Paul Gross. And, thank you Francis Damberger and the governments of Alberta and Canada et al for this movie. Is it the best love story in film history? No. Is it the best war movie in film history? No. Nevertheless, it is an excellent production and I am one proud Albertan of the crews who put it together. We Canadians have for too long been quietly unassuming amongst ourselves and our contributions. As a result, other peoples are just as ignorant about us as we are about ourselves. This movie has brought forth some excellent discussions on this board and introduced many facts of our history of which many of us were unaware. So, I repeat, Thank you Paul Gross and thank you all here for your insights.

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Sancho: well done on listing Canadian contributions to the Second World War.

Tanzil: try to inform yourself before you make statements about contribution; aside from all that Sancho listed, there's Juno Beach. D-Day. I assume you've heard of that?

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it was fantastic given the 20 millino dollar budget..nota lot of money if you ask me...it was well done in all areas, not a home run, but pretty close! Considering it was Canadian Cinema i thought it was fantastic, too many good canadian films go to waste or just aren't gien the upport, i think if this movie had a larger budget and a larger production base it would have been incredible! I liked how it was inconventional as well!


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Paul, if you're reading this YOU NAILED IT!!!!.

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This movie sucked. The first battle and the end were cool. The homefront stuff was a waste of time and boring. I also heard Paul Gross is a spoiled brat.

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I agree with you entirely, verglace -- it was pretty good and much better than I expected.

I figured I'd watch for awhile, till I got bored, and then would search for something better. I ended up viewing the entire film and enjoyed every minute of it.

I still don't know all that much about Passchendaele. What I knew before was that it was very bloody, and the movie certainly captured that aspect.

It is absurd for some to compare it to "Pearl Harbor" -- it is far superior to that complete waste of everything.

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It's a *beep* film.

I believe the one part which had me laughing was when Paul Gross's character promised that he wouldn't die. It reminded me of Team America.

It took place in Alberta for most of the movie with the last half hour taking place at the battle.

Writing was terrible, acting was terrible. Who thought it was a good idea to fund this project?

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Thanks. I totally agree and your comment gave me a good laugh. Also, Team America was actually more believable than this atrocity. So I guess I'll see you at "Gunless"?

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As an American now living in Britain, it was refreshing to see a film like this; not enough attention is paid to the many countries that fought in this war as well as others. I'm really glad I watched it.

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It's a real eye opener, isn't it? Living outside of the glass bubble of the United States.


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"I do think more movies about Canadian military encounters is needed. Perhaps one about the War of 1812 where Canada defeated the Americans and occupied Detroit would be a good start."

Memo to Canada: You can have Detroit back.

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Thanks indeed.

Better film than I had expected.

Nicely written script, except for near the end, also by Paul Gross.

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I did enjoy it but must admit the crucifixion part was utterly ridiculous. One thing that dig bug me about the battle scenes is that the actors seemed rather relaxed. In the beginning it felt more like they were discussing where to go for a drink instead of how to take out that machine gun.

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No, it was only Paul Gross's character acting like that. And it is because Gross produced, directed, and starred in the movie, and was on a huge egotrip to make himself look as cool, heroic, and noble as possible. Like one little quip before the Passchendaele battle where his CO says that he should've received a VC.

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