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Casting......Noahs Ark a comedy?


Ok..Someone please tell me this is not going to be a comedy! I've seen the cast listing and it scares me.

Jason Lee as Japeth?
Jason Mewes, of Jay and Silent Bob fame, as Ham!!??

Don't get me wrong.... they and others listed in the cast are comedic actors in their own right..... but.... I don't see our Grand Creator taking to lightly to a movie that makes fun of the seriousness involved this one.

Wickedness was rampant during that time because of the Nephilim ("fellers" who may have been the roots of Greek Mythology). These 'giants' raped women and were very brutal and violent. God even "felt hurt in his heart" because of what happened. God saw that there was "badness throughout the earth", and that's why he caused the deluge.

Could you imagine a cast like this for a Holocaust movie? (thats how the flood account should be viewed as well)

"I started out with nothing - And I still have most of it left !"

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re: previous post

Maybe not the absolute funniest post ever, but pretty damn close.

Speaking of which, wouldn't Uschi have been perfect as the voice for Ms. Noah?

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:'( It was deleted, so I may never know of its win.

To the OP, are you serious?

Please tell me this is a poor attempt at trolling as you have no idea what you are talking about.

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i wonder if you'll be so confident in that when your on your deathbed

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Interesting you should say that. So there are no atheists in cancer wards, in other words?

I've never known an unbeliever who got religion at the end.

I do, however, personally know of lifelong, devout Christians -- and very good people, at that -- who as death neared voiced their anguish by saying something like, "Why is God letting this happen to me?" It was not an edifying experience.

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"Why is God letting this happen to me?" is not an indication of unbelief.

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The "Why is God letting this happen to me?" phrase was clearly about believers and not non believers, dingus. Try reading comprehension.

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LOL...I think God must be on vacation if He is allowing these losers in Hollywood to make a movie about His bathtub toy....or is it His Bathtub Toy?

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i think greek mythology came before the bible... just sayin!

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OK seriously! There is a God and all of you guys theat are saying "he's on vacation" and all that crap, you're all idiots. i'm not gonna force God on you...but if you've ever had a family member be healed as a so called Miracle...well the miracle came from God...and if a family member died..it was God's will. So stop dissing 'cause some of us actually believe in God.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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and some dont...

i believe in him but from what i learned is that religious debating is kinda stupid because its not going anywhere

does who believe will believe no matter what you tell them, and vis versa.


if this thread will continue like this it will only be

god dosent exist
it is
hes not
he is


no point will be made


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Nobody has to respect another person's stupid ideas.

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Nobody has to be rude and insult another for his ideas either

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your so called miracle was unfortunately not gods powers....it was the powers of the human body, which is very resiliant. somehow if there was a god im sure he doesnt save a few chosen people to live a teeny wee bit longer and let millions die i horrible ways for no reason. i think you will also find that christianity etc are all new religions being around 2000 years old. people have been on earth for far longer and different areas all believed in their own gods. eg roman egyptian greek celtic maori..................the list in endless, suppose it is a bit more creditable than scientology


the film better be a comedy or it wont be worth watching...hopefully better than evan almighty!!!

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Ok, Scientology is the worlds stupidest religion, it makes no sense why people would think we came from friggin monkeys, how dumb are you to believe that, or even dumber a big dust ball? Now how on earth would that get here, and sure you could say how'd god get here...but i'd believe that story more than i'd believe some hoax call the Big Bang Theory!

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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ok good point...why did we come from monkeys.....did take a good while though....but since we have a resemblence...i see ur point.... how crazy is it to believe that the big bang created alot of *beep* as crazy as a random spirit called god who makes a crazy planet where only like 10% (if that) think that this so called god exists.... etc etc etc 7 days *beep* i craeted a world..... oh yeah more plausable!!!! anything is.... i *beep* a tiger on acid ......miracles happen *beep* heeds

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Ok,you're seriously an idiot if you think we did come from monkeys...but obviously you did cause you sound just about as stupid as one.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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MicBeam10- You are a MORON.

'What the hell kinda way to act is that?'- Royal Tenenbaum

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Did you really just say that Scientology says that people come from monkeys... and that it is where the big bang comes from...

really...

Scientology...

That is the religous following of Zenu and Thetans or some such

OH, you must mean science, that really thing that gave us computers and cars and the cure to small pox...
Yeah Science is hooey, (well when it isnt something convienant that makes yoru life easier, like the internets)

(oh and science doesnt say that people come from monkeys, that is just a common creationist sort of ignorance

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OK seriously! There is a God and all of you guys theat are saying "he's on vacation" and all that crap, you're all idiots. i'm not gonna force God on you...but if you've ever had a family member be healed as a so called Miracle...well the miracle came from God...and if a family member died..it was God's will. So stop dissing 'cause some of us actually believe in God.


I respect that...

...but I don't know how God feels about the signature:

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"


Nice way to spread the word of god

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wow seriously...this is from a movie...and you can either die a hero could symbolize dying as a hero for your country or you could live long enough to see yourself become a villain is like becoming a murderer or terroist or something...so its not all that big a deal.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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that is exactly what the suicide bombers think when they die heros to their peers as well

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"There is a God "
"...you're all idiots"

wut

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Wow, hate to get involved, especially with the direction this is going but...

"Could you imagine a cast like this for a Holocaust movie? (thats how the flood account should be viewed as well)"

That comes very close to comparing Hitler to God. If this were comparable, then the Holocaust would not have been carried out by a man. But I think I might have an idea as to where you were going with the comparison.

"I don't see our Grand Creator taking to lightly to a movie that makes fun of the seriousness involved this one."

As is often the case, I feel like I must give God more credit than most who presume to know more about what others mean than they themselves do. I believe there's a HUGE difference between making fun of an event, and having fun with an event, but that's not even the point. Don't presume to understand someone else's intentions when they create anything. You can, and most people will, have a feeling about how they interpret something themselves, but I just think that making an assumption as to how someone else interprets it, especially God, is so incredibly presumptive that it seems almost offensive.

Again, this isn't a discussion that I generally get involved in, and I'm sure that you, like me, are just expressing a personal opinion. I just don't agree with someone opining about how God feels about any subject.

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It's a story about almost the entire population of the planet being drowned by Him. And you're worried about whether He's going to take offense at us laughing at it.

Sounds like a load of crap to me :)

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I'm so tempted to get involved in this, but everyone know's it's an argument for children, right?

But seriously, I've never met a Christian who actually believed in 'The Flood'. Fair play to you, you weren't content with just faith in God and Jesus etc and took it to another level.

That's some dedication right there.

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ok tama wagon your an idiot...Santa Clause doesn't exist God does, and I believe in that. So I think you need to find a bible and read it...and I believe in the great flood..and the symbol of the rainbow means that its God's promise to never do it again it does not symbolise gay pride.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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Oh, this is one of many fairytales in the christian bible that deserve to be made fun of as much as possible.

Get your facts straight.

Noah was just some old dude who threw his dog and cat on a rowboat.

There are records of an actual small flood occurring in certain parts of the Middle East, but of course, this is the bible. Hyperbole is encouraged.





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Religious arguments with Christians are outright aggravating. Their only defense is based upon "faith" or the "bible". How come God's miracles have sort of watered down since the bible days? I don't see anything impossible happening in the miracle department the way it did in the bible. I don't worship the Bible, I worship Stephen King's It, it's a "good book" and just as plausible as the bible is.

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Ok...well these "miracles" that you say don't happen anymore still do...there have been people healed from having cancer...people that have flatlined then came back to life...I mean seriously you just make yourself sound ignorant.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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i really do love hearing the ramblings of religious people, they do make me chuckle lol. the world was flooded by a higher power... people surviving cancer is proof of gods existence.... etc etc etc

The fact is that if the noah story was really true then to fit all the animals on one boat... the boat would have to be the size of a small island i.e. the isle of man lol...i mean c'mon people u seriously cant believe that ever happened.

"Rainbows are a sing from god that he wont flood the earth again"... actually rainbows are the result of light moving between particles of moisture in the earth atmosphere... read a science book please.

N the whole "people surviving cancer because of a miracle provided by god" thing is ridiculous... it's embarrassing to hear such nonsense... scientific development is the reason or just plain luck.

i wish people would read the educated works of Darwin. because although no one can provide a true answer to the question "does god exist", Darwin's theory of evolution via natural selection is by far the most plausible.

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God Works in Mysterious ways. Darwin is probably one of the biggest idiots ever other than Al Gore...that's all I have to say.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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thank god thats all you have to say then... haha darwin an idiot? ok pal...ok

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o... AND!...
"god works in mysterious ways"
is the theoretical equivalent of sayin "I've not got a reasonable logical sensible answer to you"

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yeah ok..keep telling yourself that...and saying "I've not got a reasonable logical sensible answer to you" is another way of saying "I'm a big fat idiot who has no life."

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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It's really rather amusing that a discussion among Christians as to whether God would have approved of this movie turned in to yet another "opportunity" for people who don't believe to bash. It's funny, because anyone who still doesn't have an opinion other than "your beliefs don't make sense to me" always comes out with this superior "I believe something different, so you must be an idiot" argument.

I have my personal opinions and beliefs on Christianity and try not to force them on others. I will however defend mine when others who don't know them and aren't interested in them decide that they are an intellectual superior just because they too have read some books. I believe that the opinion that God doesn't exist doesn't make sense myself, but I also understand why some people strongly believe that too. I leave that alone, it's not going to affect my beliefs either way.

So, is there any possible way that people who don't believe in the existence of God can allow those of us that do to have a discussion about him, or are you really that offended that someone has a different view than you actually exist that you can't allow it?

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who said anyone was trying to force a view on someone??? i was simply stating the fact that certain things christians believe in... i.e. noah ark, simply could not happen. its not a view its a fact.
O and to Mac Beam or whatever your name is... you obviously didn't think about what you said in your last comment... well done genius, you made yourself look like the idiot you talked about... well done. I'm sure your well on your way to winning the village idiot award this year.

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ok louis-lestat or wat ever kind of name that is...the stuff did happen and ur an idiot who thinks there smart...and u weren't stating a fact thats opinion smart one...who is the village idiot now...and puk head, ur statement was well done people shouldn't throw there religions on others and i apologize if i did that because i hare when certain annoying people do tht...example louis-lestat...

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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My point was mostly that this discussion got way off track. It has turned into something similar to someone asking a co-worker about a hockey game and some other co-worker, who wasn't included in the conversation because everyone knows they don't like hockey, stepping in and saying "Hockey's stupid and so are you for enjoying it. Now basketball, there's a sport..." It doesn't make any sense at all. If you don't like hockey, go to the next desk where you know the person likes basketball and have a great, fun conversation and leave hockey to those fans. If a person can't do that, it comes across as more than a little bit of a self-confidence issue. "If I can't add to a conversation, I better change the subject so that I can".

Again, maybe everyone can understand that analogy a little better.

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Yeah your completley right and once again i sincerely apologize for letting this get off track and i know i could've handled the situation a lot better, and you did make a great point in that last analogy, and i'd also like to add that Hockey is an AWESOME sport cause i used to play a while back, but that's for a different board that that works on, not this one =)

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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i think im done speaking to MicBeam... you're an asskissing religious moron and simple science and logic is not going to get thru to you....

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and just for the record...i stated a fact. its not an opinion to say that to fit all the animals on the planet on an ark... the ark would have to be the size of a small island. Thats not an opinion...its a fact based on the mass of all the combined animals....
but micbeam... you keep believing that noah made an ark and that this really happened. i couldnt make this stuff up if i tried.

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the real bible is a comedy, where is the problem ? mm

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uh for one the boat was ginormous....and ur an idiot....and it is an opinion not a fact...but of course you wouldn't know that...and i actually think your trying to start stuff cuz u won't shut up, and imakarum mirablis your name just makes you sound ignorant and the bible isn't comedy...so I just wish the rest of you luck and as for louis-lestat get a life.

"You can either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"

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haha

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Here's something some people know, but many don't...

The bible takes many stories from pre-christian and pre-biblical eras and makes them their own, not unlike the common Remake in hollywood today.

Here are just SOME Deluge stories predating the bible:

Sumeria: 2150-2000 BC: God tells Ziusudra he is going to destory mankind, after which he will have to repopulate the earth. The flood lasts seven days. Tablets found have predated this story to as far back as 2900 BC.

Babylon: 1300-1000 BC: The Epic of Gilgamesh, where Utnapishtim tells gilgamesh the story of how he and his wife survived a great flood. In earlier versions, it started out as a river flood, but gradually changed into a great flood from the sea.

China: 700 BC: The Shujing describes emperor Yao tries to control the rivers of heaven, yet is unable. Da Yu steps in, and successfully fights the tides,which takes him 10 years, and later goes on to establish china's first dynasty. Nuwa helps to repair the heavens, and repopulate the earth.

India: 500-300 BC: Hindu Puranas account of the story of king Satyavrata, also known as Manu, who finds a fish when washing his hands in the river. The fish begs for his life to be spared, and the king obliges. The king puts him back into the ocean, and the fish warns of an impending flood a week away. The king builds a boat, and the fish tows it up to the highest mountain top along with other "seeds of life" to re-establish life on earth.

There are hundreds, and hundreds more stories from all around the world (And this is before a lot of cultures even knew of each other, let alone interacted and conversed. All of these stories lead archeologists to believe a great flood did in fact take place, spawning countless tales of flood myths, but most agree they weren't an on epic scale that actually flooded the entire earth.


With this evidence in light, it's fairly easy to see how any one story is merely a fictitious tale based off of real-life events.

Not to mention most ancient stories are simply tools of propaganda to cement and solidify the ruler of a kingdom as all-mighty and all-powerful and deserving to be in power.


And as for us evolving from apes...that's not quite right. We did NOT evolve FROM apes, monkeys, or any other primate walking today's earth. Most people who don't believe in evolution see pictures of monkeys and chimps, and say "How could we have come FROM THAT?!"

Comparisons of DNA show that our closest living relatives are the ape species of Africa, and most studies by geneticists show that chimpanzees and humans are more closely related to each other than either is to gorillas. However, it must be stressed that humans did not evolve from living chimpanzees. Rather, our species and chimpanzees are both the descendants of a common ancestor that was distinct from other African apes. This common ancestor is thought to have existed in the Pliocene between 5 and 8 million years ago, based on the estimated rates of genetic change. Both of our species have since undergone 5 to 8 million years of evolution after this split of the two lineages.

The split between apes and man happened roughly 5 - 8 million years ago.

Think of other species of animals. The best example I can give are Fish, Cats, and Dogs. How many different kinds of dogs are there? Cats? Only god himself could count the number of fish species there are...yet they all share similar DNA in their respective family tree.

It is also important I stress that Evolution DOES NOT equate to there being no God, or vice versa. I guess, however, it does rule out the creationary theory the earth was constructed in 7 days.

In closing, the bible is a great tool to learn from. It has the ability to make people nicer to each other, and gives people something to live for. However, it should not be taken literally. The bible has inspired many great things (such as art) yet it has also given mankind many tragic events, such as wars and inquisitions. There are two sides of every coin.

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i agree with clowncarmasacre.
when i was kid i read La Prèhistoire ( jean jack barloy ), is a small book illustrated for children.
now we have a nu DNA knowledge, for this reason i think many books are inaccurates.
but the base is solid, darwinism is strong.
i read bible year ago, the jews are like the gipsies of today, they are a subcultural society in a world dominated by kingdoms, sumerian egiptian etc
u belive in a book made by a not well developed society ? sorry no im european, i have a brai.
the genesis is fantasy, the exodus is fictional, the numeri is believeble.

sorry for my english.

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i agree with clowncarmasacre.
when i was kid i read La Prèhistoire ( jean jack barloy ), is a small book illustrated for children.
now we have a nu DNA knowledge, for this reason i think many books are inaccurates.
but the base is solid, darwinism is strong.
i read bible year ago, the jews are like the gipsies of today, they are a subcultural society in a world dominated by kingdoms, sumerian egiptian etc
u belive in a book made by a not well developed society ? sorry no im european, i have a brai.
the genesis is fantasy, the exodus is fictional, the numeri is believeble.

sorry for my english.

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Uhm... pretty sure that the Exodus actually did happen.

But the burning bush/Genesis/Flood etc: fantasy...

the Flood, as stated by ClownCarMassacre, has been told time and time again in
that region, and geological/archaeological places the likely candidate to be the
creation of the sea of Marmara:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Black_Sea_map.png

According to the bible, Noah washed ashore on a mountain top in Turkey.
Let's not get to caught up in the mountain-TOP aspect of the story, but rather,
Imagine how a world which has little or next-to-none knowledge about... soil
erosion, earthquakes, structural integrity, etc... would consider a mountain
wall caving in and letting the sea flow into a below-sea-level valley.

Of course they are going to scream "Act of God, Act of God!"

And the sea reseeding during the exodus was in all likelihood caused by a tsunami.
a well timed tsunami, but a tsunami none the less.
the cause of the tsunami was, in all likelihood, a volcanic eruption on a
Mediterranean island, powerful enough to have ramifications for the entire region.
(could be the origin of the story of Atlantis, BTW.)

My point is:

There are several more plausible explanations than "God did it..."

And I'd just like to ad:

OP, don't compare a natural disaster to the Holocaust.

On is a tragedy...

the other is pure Evil, committed by HUMANS, btw, not "the devil"...

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I want to hear more from MicBeam10, he was great!

I find it fascinating that after ClownCarMassacre introduced some actual learned knowledge to this argument he stopped replying.

I can only hope that his eyes were opened for the very first time. That he had never before had an opposing side of an argument laid before him in such a convincing way, and having previously only taken the words of his minister and his fellow churchgoers to be fact, dismissing any and all dissenting voices before he had ever even heard them, had suddenly, found himself enlightened, thrilled and empowered at this new adventure before him. I hope that this small spark of wisdom then took flame and ignited within him the delicious yearning for a broader view, that we who have read more than one book feel every single day. And that he then took it upon himself to engage his brain time and time again, to seek out knowledge and understanding, and finally, at last, to see just how beautiful this world we live upon is.

But no, he probably just got a headache halfway down, ate some frosted flakes, sulked a bit and went out to the yard to shoot stuff.

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Well done, Rooster!!

'What the hell kinda way to act is that?'- Royal Tenenbaum

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I won't even get into the particulars here, but try to look at this from an atheist's perspective. You come on a public forum, where you see people, possibly adults even, seriously discussing the moods of Zeus and the speed and agility with which he throws his thunderbolt. One poster flatly asserts that that time lightning struck the tree in her yard, that was Zeus, and the discussion wanders to whether Zeus would be annoyed at Anthony Quinn playing him in the Hercules series, or whether Kevin Sorbo really is Hercules in human form. And you realize these people are SERIOUS about it. Many people would just leave things be, but not everyone does, nor should they, and it's not because of a lack of self-confidence.

Your hockey analogy makes it seem as if this is simply a matter of differing tastes, when it really is a matter of some people accepting absurd things on faith and then getting annoyed at other people when they point out the absurdity. The only other place I see this sort of annoyance is when a parent chides her older children for telling their younger siblings their imaginary friends aren't real and making them cry. But that's tough. You're not children and you're not that fragile, so I won't treat you as such.

If anybody is speaking gibberish in a public forum they don't deserve immunity from criticism. This is neither an attempt to silence, nor an attempt to bully. It is pure and simple honesty, as I'd expect from anyone to give me in return. (The opposite request, that non-believers 'just keep quiet' is an attempt to silence, albeit a mind one).

Now, note that this is how we see things. Many atheists fully accept that some point of our reasoning may be wrong, or that a god exists and has for its own "mysterious ways" kept itself hidden from us, but unless you manage to pull some fancy evidence for god out of your collective hat, don't expect us to keep quiet in public. At home, at church, at private meetings, at private forums etc., feel free to put up a 'no atheists' sign.

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Again... well done cpfh

'What the hell kinda way to act is that?'- Royal Tenenbaum

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I agree....Michael Keaton, Rob Schnieder, Jason Lee, and Jason Mewes?


It's GOT to be a comedy.

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