When Brennan was correcting Reynolds's character about the Lou Reed Song satellite of love, was he trying to imply that Reynolds's character did not know everything about life, etc.?
shareHe found a flaw in a character that everyone else idolized, and he wasn't afraid to tell him, so yes.
Ephemeron.
He's saying that Reynolds' character was lying about playing with Lou reed
sharethat's what I thought more so, jacob
shareThe thing is why did Lou Reed even become like a major deal in the movie at all? Lou Reed wasn't big in 1987, wasn't mainstream in 1987, none of those cheerleaders would've had a clue what he was talking about in 1987 or been impressed by that name drop.
I'm not sure why this got set in 1987 when the producer went to HS/college so much earlier so so much of it seemed like 1979 or 2007 instead of 1987.
These people (main characters) were not necessarily into main stream, except maybe Lisa P.
Main stream was not the intent of the "joke" or situation with these folks.
They were into obscure, thought to be cool. So Lou Reed was a perfect choice to present this. He was cool as early as 1972!
And also think of this, the set up to the Lou Reed story, Mike is older than the rest of them, so HE knows who Lou Reed is, so he tells the story, they find out who Lou Reed is and this adds to the mystique, They all think Mike is cool. Follow Mike. But of course they don't catch the mistake. James' character is different than the rest, surely you caught that, He does know Lou Reeds music. So he points it out.
Ephemeron.
Sort of but it still felt false the way they (the cheerleaders, who definitely should have been mainstream) got all excited when they heard the name.
Cheerleaders would not have been all impressed by how cool some outside type like that was. This was not the age of the hipster or hippie.
Also if you listen to the behind the scenes you hear the actors saying stuff like "and of course we were rocking our Lou Reed t-shirts, I mean who wasn't in 1987 right?!!!" which is totally ridiculous and true only in some hipster fantasy revision of the 80s.
And I guess part of the problem is more the reviews and the way they presented the movie with everyone going on about how this movie didn't overdo the 80s and just presented 1987 more realistically than ever before (including the main two characters), but it just didn't. 1987 and all people had was records? no tapes, no CDs, no walkmen? etc.
Yeah if you imagine that Em was some rare outsider and take into account that James went to Oberlin (one of the few schools in the nation in 1987 where 80% of the students seemed to be trapped in the late 70s still) how they acted maybe fit (but even outsider girls rarely had Em's hairstyle, mainstream girls had big hair, burnout girls had big hair (sometimes more glam medal type big hair though), outside punk girls had big 80s punk hair, I mean yeah one or two girls here and there maybe had zero hairstyle like Em but I just don't get the talk about how it showed 1987 so perfectly when it mostly focused on a few obscure types who were far out of norm for the era. Even the way they had them all smoking up was a bit weird since in 1987 barely any of the kids who went to top 30 type universities smoked or spent summers smoking up, that was mostly the burnout crowd then; back in 1977 or even in 1997 smoking and smoking up were a lot more common in that elite school crowd but in 1987 it really wasn't typical at all).
Thanks for the input. I forget about the reviews and all that.
And you are right, this movie definitely looks more like 1977, except for the music, that is one reason I relate to it so much, love it so much, and therefore cannot be totally objective.
Ephemeron.
Obama did blow and went to Harvard.
I think you're far underestimating the people you're talking about.
Another example, "Less Than Zero".
Also, as someone who grew up in a very music conscious town, chicks love guys in a garage band, so, Lou Reed or any musician would have weight with chicks.
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=14158447
I was the people I was talking about and I was them in the late 80s and earliest 90s.
Obama was in HS in the 70s and was already done with college just as the 80s started becoming the real 80s. And he went to Harvard for grad school.
Lou Reed maybe carried weight with chicks in the 70s and hipster chicks today, but the movie had late 80s 'it' girl cheerleaders going nuts over Lou Reed (and again, in the behind the scenes, they even said stuff like "and of course I was rockin' a Lou Reed t-shirt, what popular kid wasn't in the 80s" or something along those lines and that's totally ridiculous.
Lou Reed wasn't all that popular back in the 70's, but still had name recognition. That made him the perfect cover story; known well enough that people would be impressed, but not so much that the story would be unbelievable. If you were high school age in the late 70's, early 80's, guys like Lou Reed and Neil Diamond were on the radio, because your folks knew them, but weren't like hard rock or anything, lol.
share^ficoce makes a good point. also, as Ryan Reynolds' character was incorrectly naming off Lou Reed songs, the girls neither corrected him nor seemed off-put by it, which leads me to believe that they were just as full of sh*t in their claims of being such big fans as he was in his claims of jamming with Lou. They were probably just excited to be talking to a cute, older musician who 'knew' a famous person.
shareBrennan has seen through him but doesn't hate him for it. He just sees him as flawed as anyone else.
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but he found that out later right?
Ephemeron.
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Right, how did I forget? I think the point is He knew he was wrong about the song the whole time, but it wasn't until after the thing with Em that he decided to call him on it. It was like hey dude, you're not so cool, ok? A subtle way to call him a dick.
Ephemeron.
It was obvious that he made the story up.
shareI think in a way, he was acknowledging to himself (by correcting him) that this guy had also scammed Em into sleeping with him.
The guy tells the young girls whatever he needs to so they think he's cool and he shags them. Brennan realizing this probably went some way towards him being able to see past the immediate hurt he felt for her having slept with the guy.