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Lord Buddha was born in NEPAL not India.


This is about the Indian movie produced by WB, "chandni chok to china"
when in the beginning of the movie narrator narrates that Lord Buddha
was born in India which is completely FALSE statement. The part where
Lord Buddha was born is in Nepal and the place is known as Lumbini.
This fact has already been accepted by UNESCO. Anyone can view the fact
in the following UNESCO world heritage center website.

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/666

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True, they should be sued for that.

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There was no Nepal during the time of the Buddha. Then Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh were all part of India. Thus the statement Buddha was born in India is true.

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There was no India when Buddha was born in 623 B.C. He was born as a prince in His own kingdom. And the land where Lord was born has been conquered by several warriors like Genghis Khan (1162-1227) and even some Mogul Emperors (1526-1857) couple of times. But eventually, Lumbini is now in Nepal. Present Tense. So it is our duty to educate people and make them aware of the fact that Lord Buddha belongs to everyone and great figures like Him and Mahatma Gandhi cannot be judged within the barricade of territorial boundaries. These people or God are so great that they belong to everyone and not just confined to one or two countries.

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There was no India when Buddha was born in 623 B.C


There was no coherent political body called India back then, true.

However, the TERMINOLOGY of India did exist (it was called "Jambudvipa", which Herodotus translated into the Greek word "India" in 400 BC).

Calling Buddha Indian is no less controversial than calling Charlemagne "european". It's not a nationalist statement but a historical demonym. Get it, mr illegal immigrant?



Present Tense. So it is our duty to educate people and make them aware of the fact that Lord Buddha belongs to everyone and great figures like Him and Mahatma Gandhi cannot be judged within the barricade of territorial boundaries. These people or God are so great that they belong to everyone and not just confined to one or two countries.


So by your revisionist logic Jesus was not Jewish?

Muhammad was not an Arab?

Please! You Nepalese dumbheads are so stupid you have to rewrite history and engage in semantic jugglery in order to inflate the national ego of what is otherwise a completely insignificant country mired in it's own collective misery.

Buddhism is a good religion overall, but you Buddhist revisionist trolls scare me as much as the Muslim Jihadis sometimes.

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Hahaha.. what a baseless logic is this?

Then you mean Mahatma Gandhi was born in BRITAIN? coz your country was made kinda slave of BRITAIN of that time.

And again that also means that MAHATMA GANDHI was born in FOLK LAND... coz that was a part of BRITAIN...

This is not MATHEMATICS dude.. when A=B and B=C , A=C.

This is GEOGRAPHY.. where A is not equal to B and B is not equal to C.

Go and ask any BUDDHIST where buddha was born.. or just visit NEPAL.. UNESCO has even listed his birthplace, LUMBINI, in WORLD HERITAGE SITE.. its a great place.. you'll enjoy it and obviously increase some GENERAL KNOWLEDGE which most of the INDIANS seem not to have...

Being smart is good but being over smart is not good.

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Actually, yes. He was born in British India.

And you Nepalese beggars were effective "slaves" of Britain too. You think you did not exist at the behest of the viceroy?

Today, we can (and probably should) bomb you stone age savages back to the pleistocene era if you beggars continue with this $hit.


Why are you getting enraged of this?You could have said what you wanted to say without insulting anyone in the process.Avoid getting emotional when it involves your country.No need to glorify one nation(India) and dismiss or insult another nation(Nepal).

No. We have REAL historical knowledge, not Buddhist-Nazi proganada. Get it, Mr Buddhist Nazi in beggar robe

Again,severe insult.You CAN NOT,I repeat,YOU CAN NOT compare Nazi with Buddhist religion,a religion which preaches peace can NOT be compared to a doctrine which preached the termination/annihilation of specific groups.How would you feel if one made fun of Sari?Or salwar khamees?Or dhoti?Huh?would you STILL address the monks as beggars?Shame unto you!


Indeed,Prince Siddhartha was BORN in the older territories of South Asia,so to fight or argue about his EXACT ethnicity is irrelevant here,also many Nepalese or rather Indians share blood lines with many South-Asian nations.So what is the point here?Why do we all seem to fight or argue about these things which we have no control of?So what If Siddhartha was not BORN in the current territory of INDIA?It will HAVE absolutely zero impact on his doctrine,Buddhism will remain SAME,no matter whether Gautama Siddhartha was born in India or Nepal.

This ridiculous notion of: We are better than you,so boo hoo..has to stop!These are the same reasons why wars,bloodshed happen.Being humble,compassionate human will not cost you anything.Sayonara Gozzaimassu.


Peace&prosperity!

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Again,severe insult.You CAN NOT,I repeat,YOU CAN NOT compare Nazi with Buddhist religion,a religion which preaches peace can NOT be compared to a doctrine which preached the termination/annihilation of specific groups.


Buddhism does not preach peace. Buddhists have committed atrocities that are easily comparable to Nazi Germany.

They are just better propagandists and hide it all from idiot western liberals who don't know any better.


Buddhists invaded, occupied and brutally murdered millions of Cham Hindus in Cambodia, they invaded and wiped out entire civilizations from Thailand, they violently oppressed the Buraku people of Japan, and your precious 'Dalai Lama" in Tibet instigated a barbaric theocracy that was 100 times worse than Iran or Saudi Arabia.

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

In the 20th century alone, Buddhists have conducted Nazi-style genocide of Tamils in Sri Lanka. Buddhists have murdered tens of thousands of Rohingya Muslims in Burma, Buddhists have killed people without mercy or compassion, and then sent their monks and missionaries to western countries to whitewash their sins.


Buddhism does not preach "peace". That is a Goebbelian "big lie".

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Buddhists invaded, occupied and brutally murdered millions of Cham Hindus in Cambodia, they invaded and wiped out entire civilizations from Thailand, they violently oppressed the Buraku people of Japan, and your precious 'Dalai Lama" in Tibet instigated a barbaric theocracy that was 100 times worse than Iran or Saudi Arabia.


Everywhere there was and still is injustice,every country did something to be ashamed of whilst they had something to be proud of!You are blinded by your hatred toward Nepalese people or Buddhists/Muslims as whole,which is unfortunate.Being humble,forgiving,compassionate soul wont cost you a thing!

Who said,that I am a Buddhist?Whatever The Dalai Lama supposedly did or didnt,is INDEED irrelevant in my objections toward your comments!

Belittling people or their capability of being good humans wont earn you any support.

Peace&prosperity!

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I do not need to re-read a post full of madness and psychosis.Besides,you lack the ability to communicate soundly without falling into the trap of anger,thus abusing/insulting those that you dont know.Henceforth,no more comments from me to you.GOODBYE!

Peace&prosperity!

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Buddhists invaded, occupied and brutally murdered millions of Cham Hindus in Cambodia, they invaded and wiped out entire civilizations from Thailand, they violently oppressed the Buraku people of Japan,

there has been no record of Buddhist violence againts Hindus and that goes vice versa.in India Hindus were once majority,then Buddhist became the majority and then again Hindus took over.this happenned over centuries and amzingly not a single case of religious war happenned.this is an amzing fact which both Hindus and Buddhist should be proud of.religious violence only happens among the barbarians ie jews christians and ofcourse the champion of religious intolerance,the MUSLIMS! we are much civilized for that.the example u qouted are just war that happened among diffrent nations and ethnicity.

your precious 'Dalai Lama" in Tibet instigated a barbaric theocracy that was 100 times worse than Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Dalai Lama's rule has prospered Tibet.not a single beggar could be found in Lhasa as well as the rest of Tibet during his reign as compared to the Chinese's rule now.

In the 20th century alone, Buddhists have conducted Nazi-style genocide of Tamils in Sri Lanka
again the civil war in Lanka is matter of ethnicity.and can u imagine in the war between Tamils and Sinhalas, the brainless and shamless Muslims,being a neutral party instead of trying to brige the gap between the two warring sides, demanded an independant homeland in Lanka.such shamless bastards!

murdered tens of thousands of Rohingya Muslims in Burma
we know that Burma has a military regime.they are oppressing even the peaceful monks in the capital and their own Buddist people as well,let alone these troublesome Muslims.
I am a Hindu, but I believe that Hinduism,Buddhism and Jainism form the great Sanathana Dharma. all the three are the same religion,what's to argue about mate?reserve ur arguements for the barbarians.

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Buddhists invaded, occupied and brutally murdered millions of Cham Hindus in Cambodia, they invaded and wiped out entire civilizations from Thailand, they violently oppressed the Buraku people of Japan,


History has different perspectives and it is always about how YOU look at it.Your posts are full of biased,hatred towards people you dont know and never met before.Thus,arguing with you is as much fun as a wound full of maggots!!

there has been no record of Buddhist violence againts Hindus and that goes vice versa.in India Hindus were once majority,then Buddhist became the majority and then again Hindus took over.this happenned over centuries and amzingly not a single case of religious war happenned.this is an amzing fact which both Hindus and Buddhist should be proud of.religious violence only happens among the barbarians ie jews christians and ofcourse the champion of religious intolerance,the MUSLIMS! we are much civilized for that.the example u qouted are just war that happened among diffrent nations and ethnicity.


Civilized eh?This is coming from a land which is PROUD of denouncing entire groups of people as IMPURE and calling them names,because of their bad karma and all?Have you forgotten the millions of dallits/the untouchables?There hardly goes a day by or you hear a dallit got insulted or abused.One of the reasons,why "BARBARIANS"(Jews,Christians and Muslims) get into conflict constantly is SIMPLY PUT,because they share lands,space etc.Whereas Hindus,in their majority live in INDIA,thus the chances for them to get into conflict with THE BARBARIANS as u simply put,is NULL,yes they do have conflict with Muslims there,but Muslims are the ones discriminated and insulted in INDIA.

your precious 'Dalai Lama" in Tibet instigated a barbaric theocracy that was 100 times worse than Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Dalai Lama's rule has prospered Tibet.not a single beggar could be found in Lhasa as well as the rest of Tibet during his reign as compared to the Chinese's rule now.


Again,where in my posts did you get the idea of me being a Buddhist?Would you please enlighten me of that "FACT"?Dalai Lama or whatever his name,is not infallible,since I believe all men and women are equally demonic/good,thus I cant blame one specific group/religion for the shortcomings of entire HUMANITY!Your post is AGAIN full of blinded hatred and baseless anger directed to (UNFORTUNATELY)Muslims and Buddhists.You so fondly denounce Saudi Arabians and Iranians,the question is: HAVE you ever went to Iran or Saudi Arabia?Have you ever talked to millions of Iranians?Saudis?Exchanged their thoughts?I bet,if you travel more and engage in self enlightenment you will realize that people everywhere are same,YOU GOT BAD people,good people everywhere.

I bet,someone will come along and summarize what the Hindus did to this group or to that group.Henceforth,I refuse to dirty my hands and insult entire group of people such as Hindus,who did NOTHING to me.I am very well educated in many civilizations and I can speak in Hindi,Japanese,Swedish,Dutch,Arabic etc.I traveled a lot and got many experiences on many cultures and religions,that is why I am willing to defend any group against blind racism and hatred.
EDIT: AND How come you not insulting people from Syria,Qatar,Oman,Bahrain,UAE,Kuweit,Morroco,Algeria,Jordon,Lebanon,Mauritania,Indonesia,Malaysia etc,majority of these people are muslim,so how come huh?Are you saying that their status is slightly HIGHER since majority of them DONT GET INTO CONFLICT?

murdered tens of thousands of Rohingya Muslims in Burma
we know that Burma has a military regime.they are oppressing even the peaceful monks in the capital and their own Buddist people as well,let alone these troublesome Muslims.


Are you defending Rohingya people or denouncing them?Stop contradicting yourself.I am even regretting of replying to your posts.IF all Muslims are MAD TERRORISTS,how come Rohingya people cant/couldn't defend themselves against MYANMAR REGIME?How can you consider them a TROUBLESOME,when they are the ones that are chased,hunted down and beaten to death?How come Al qaeda is not there defending them?Where is AL QAEDAA?How come Al QAEDA only seems to CARE whenever AMERICA is involved?If American military bases in Middle east closes,will Muslim terrorism stop?If Palestinians get a country of their own,WILL MUSLIM TERRORISM STOP?.
Peace&prosperity!

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to minky monky,
my comments were reply to jaunty's comments earlier and not to urs.

the comment on buddhist invaders are from jaunty. In that comment I replied that the Buddhist invasions are not religious wars but normal wars of conquests

re : caste system
was initially good but the practice went wrong over the ages.for one who do not know how and why the caste system was formed, arguing with such persons is like,as you put it,as much fun as a wound full of maggots.

re: Dalai Lama
again I was replying to Jaunty 's remarks and not implying u to be Buddhist.I support the rule of the Dalai Lama as it PROVEN that his holiness rule was peaceful and prosperous.Check out the history books
re : why u are not insulting the ppl of Libya etc..
well I am not insulting but stating the facts.i can very well state the facts of these countries u mentioned like Qatar and Malaysia but then I cant sit here whole night can I ? just to name one country, Malaysia, have u been reading the newspapers? The muslim dominated Malaysian govt are officially backed with law are discriminating the non Muslims. there is a law in Malaysia that orders all units of the malaysian govt to favour the Muslims than the non Muslims in matters such as education, land and house purchase, positions in the govt stock purchases etc.I can go on stating the facts of all these barbaric countries but then I do not have all night.
re Muslims discriminated in India
; it s all their fault. do you see discriminations againts Buddist and Jains and Sikhs and Parsis ? its because they act in civilized manner and life peacefully with the majority Hindus.
re Alqaeda among the Rohingya :
Al Qaeda is only intrested in targets connected to US so they are not intrested in the Rohingya ppl. The Rohingya ppl or any other Muslim seperatist be it in Checnya or Kosovo or Sri Lanka or Kashmir or Pattani (Thailand) or the Talibans or the Pashtuns or the Moros of the Phillipines have been troublesome badasses who can never be peaceful with themselves and nor will let others live in peace.This is the fact and it is also a fact,not a coincidence that these ppl happen to be all Muslims!
re : myself travelling and talking to ppl of Muslim countries,
I live in a muslim majority country in SE Asia hence i know what i am talking about.
lastly I am a HIndu but I respect and worship the Buddhist,Jain and the Confucianist faith.In my country we visit and pray in each others temples,ie the Buddhist and Chinese go to Hindu temples and Indians Hindus going to Chinese temples and worship Buddha as our Lord.Of course we do not visit the barbarians and nor do the barbarians come to our places of worship.

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Being compassionate,merciful and forgiving people will not cost you a thing!

Wishing each one of you the best health and happiness.

Cheers.


Peace&prosperity!

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Being compassionate,merciful and forgiving people will not cost you a thing! []

Wishing each one of you the best health and happiness.

Cheers.




This is the best post anyone has written in this entire discussion...What the *beep* is wrong with all of you...Bickering on and on, calling each other barbarians and what not...India was a great country once upon a time, now it is filled with idiots and morons who appear on mtv every now and then...India is also one of the oldest civilizations on Earth...So yes there were good times and bad times...high points and bad points...just like everywhere else...Now is the time for all of us to come together...We are not gonna be living on this planet for very long...People are becoming more and more ignorant and stupid nowadays...Some people in America believe that dinosaurs and humans existed during the same time period...And not children, men and women who might get the power to run the country one day...My God i am truly afraid that day might come soon...People all over the world dont believe in global warming, Serial killers having fan bases and even selling stuff from the murder sites on the internet...Look a5t the world we live in..We are all regressing to mindless pieces of crap...Stop all the hating...Be more open towards others, more tolerant, open your mind, free your mind and all the other stuff morpheus said...This is a film review site..use it as one....


I am an Indian...


Have a nice day everyone....

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Civilized eh?This is coming from a land which is PROUD of denouncing entire groups of people as IMPURE and calling them names,because of their bad karma and all


Who is proud of it?

India is a secular democratic country, and #hithole Nepal was a Theocracy with the caste system as part of state law under a Hindu king.



Pot calls the kettle black, Eh? Been listening to lying murdering Nepalese insects a little too much, have we?

India should do the human race a favor and bomb the sick little parasite of a country that is Nepal to ashes!

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You can say BRITISHERS if you like,heck you can even call us Britneys!Many Americans have tendencies of addressing the entire Great Britain as ENGLISH,WHAT ABOUT SCOTLAND?Irish or welsh people?darn it..it is simply infuriating.

I dont mind you calling us BRITISHERS,at least it is better than English thing.

Peace&prosperity!

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WOuld you rather be called "Britons" like Julius Caesar did (before he pwned your a$$es)?


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And I should feel INSULTED because?Being a computer warrior is not fun nor is abusing unknown entities you MET on the net.But if this gives you the needed psychological BOOST,so be it..Cheers mate.



Peace&prosperity!

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YOU Buddhist nutcases really need to stop smoking all that pot and get real. Anymore of this monkey business and Indians will bomb you flat.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091229/board/thread/128247783?d=130514120&p=2#130514120

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you guys are retards.
who gives a damn who was born where, who cares. I am sure that lord his holiness prince buddha blabla wouldn't give a damn himself.
india and nepal weren't defined nations at the time, but were all part of the indian-subcontinent. but then again, who cares

what's worse is that the film sucked.

"What if there is no tomorrow? there wasn't one today...!"

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Ideally, nobody gives a damn but the Lord Buddha knew where his loyalty laid.

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mahatma ganshi born in british india? not entirely true. Gujurat was a PRINCELY state and was not in direct control of the british.

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Lord Buddha's bible (Dhammapada if my memory is ok) was writtent in Pali, the Indian dialect, another proof that he was Indian...
Also the term "pariah" is used in "Who is the Pariah ?" (a part of Dhammapada) and the pariah (paria in Pali dialect) was the lowest cast of people during this period.

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I respect Nepal as a country and I am not trying to take away your heritage.It is true that Lumbini is in Nepal(country) now.But try to understand that India is not just a political boundary you see in the world map today.It is ancestor of all the culture,language,religion etc you people have.Indeed Lumbini is in Nepal today, but the group of kingdoms() at that time which shared same culture and linguistic base(Sanskrit) were (even then) identified as one.That base is Indian.Again, don't get me wrong.But Buddhism is nothing but a rebel child of Hinduism.It born in "Jambudvipa" (if that makes you happy) and there was no Nepal (country) or culture for that matter, at that time.The Father of Siddhartha was a leader of Shakya clan and The Hindu Puranas mention Shakya as a king of Ikshvaku dynasty, son of Sanjaya and father of Shuddhodana.(Ref. Misra, V.S. (2007). Ancient Indian Dynasties, Mumbai: Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, ISBN 81-7276-413-8, pp.285-6)So dont do this.Whether you accept or not,you are , at last, sons and daughters of India.

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