Firstly, I do not have a problem with homosexuality or seeing it on screen, but watching the sex scenes which involved Chris (the deaf, autistic, Asbergus, gay character) really made me stomach turn. Didn't really think that much of the film anyway (I did like the way all 8 characters lives linked) but thought that involving Chris in gay sex was one step too far.
Discuss.
I think you are being totally hypocritical !
Aren't people who are deaf or have special needs allowed to have sex, whether it's hetrosexual or homosexual ?
Instead of asking people to 'discuss', I think you need to re-evaluate your attitudes towards both homosexuality and people with special needs.
I'm my opinion the scenes were approached with a sensitivity that made the viewer think about how natural and deserving it is for anyone to be loved and to have physical contact with another person, whether they are gay, straight, able bodied, or special needs, or whether it's paid for.
I think this film has been promoted to the type of people who wouldn't normally watch a type of film with themes such as this, and therefore unfortunatley there appears to be a lot of homophobic reviews/comments.
I can only hope that maybe this film can educate some people (obviously not pinkylulu !) to be a bit more understanding and tolerant towards other people.
I just think there are some things which we do not need to see and this was a perfect example of it. I have not heard anything homophobic about this movie. I literally hired this movie, purely because it has Danny Dyer in it and I knew nothing about it. I think they tried to think of the most shocking thing they could do in a film and came up with this.....
shareAND there were no black lesbians in wheelchairs.
In this day and age, we are so used to seeing violence and horror films with torture scenes (i.e. Hostel, Saw) that we now don't consider it to be shocking anymore. Both violence and torture are both NOT normal, and NOT everyone does it. However sex is still a taboo, even though it IS normal and almost everyone DOES it.
In this movie there is violence but no-one complains about that. They don't mind watching it. It's strange that people don't mind seeing violence, but seeing sex (in whatever way), is something 'that we do not need to see' ?!
I commented on homophobia, as there is a scene with a female prostitute with false legs (?) having (graphic) role play sex with one male strangers and another man watching, which no-one is commenting on and are quite happy to watch. However when a deaf man with special needs has (non graphic) sex with a male prostitute, then it is deemed something that we should not be shown ?!!
That's why, even though you say you 'do not have a problem with homosexuality or seeing it on screen', you actually do. That is what is hypocritical, and homophobic, and also what is offensive to anyone who is either deaf or has special needs, or both.
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It is possible to have interesting opinions without being either homophobic, sexist, racist, ageist, prejudiced or discriminatory - these opinions are not boring. And to be honest opinions without prejudices are more interesting and valid then ones with.
It's a shame that people confuse voicing personal prejudices, thinking that it is a valid critical opinion.
Just because someone doesn't want to watch gay sex it doesn't make them a homophobe. Why would someone be happy with watching a man and a woman have sex, but find gay sex discomforting? It's because they're not gay, pure and simple.
Would I be comfortable watching one person take a poo on another persons face? A bit of scatporn? I'm sure you I wouldn't find it comfortable at all, beacuse I'm not into that sort of thing. Doesn't mean I'm agaisnt these people, people can do what they like. I just don't want to see it, sam thing with gay sex
I understand what you are trying to say, however there is a difference between watching gay sex and finding it 'discomforting' and the original comment of 'really made my stomach turn', and saying that it was 'one step to far'.
I am gay and I quite happy to watch straight sex scenes in movies and have no issues with it what so ever - and I'm not straight. I'm not a hetrophobe either. So I don't think your answer is as simple as you like to think. If all gay people's stomachs turned every time they saw anything related to heterosexuality, then there would be a lot of people feeling ill, all the time !
Also, comparing a non graphic 'coming of age' gay sex scene to scat porn is slightly extreme ?!
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Hear, hear - I agree with everything you say. (But how did I know that there would be a entry with a title a bit like this?! I just did!)
That comment - 'made my stomach turn' - is the real giveaway. How would the poster feel if she was mentally or physically disabled, and she heard someone say that about her? Disabled people have enough problems being accepted as it is, without this kind of attitude still being bandied around in the 21st century.
For anyone who is disabled and has problems with social isolation and/or relationships, there is a fantastic organisation called 'Outsiders', which has been going for thirty years, and which aims to significantly improve disabled people's personal and private lives. Their website is here:-
http://www.outsiders.org.uk/
Their website says - "Whenever possible, Outsiders works together with other groups to campaign for the acceptance of disabled people as sexual partners." ('Made my stomach turn' - hmmm.......)
BTW I didn't think the prostitute actually had false legs, I thought she was wearing the calipers for polio? Does anyone know one way or the other?