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Are the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies now part of the MCU universe?

I've already asked this, but people didn't seem to understand the question, so let me try to explain. Keep in mind I haven't seen the movie, but I have read the Wikipedia page.

Back to the Future and Django Unchained are in the same universe, because Django and Doc Brown appeared in A Million Ways to Die in the West. I know those scenes were just little jokes, it's the only example I can think of.

So in that way, are the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies now part of the MCU universe? For example, when Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man appeared in this movie, was he the same character that appeared in the Sam Raimi movies, or is he a completely different character, that was just played by Tobey Maguire for the nostalgia?

If it's the same character, I think it's ridiculous. Those movies are supposed to be completely standalone. Just imagine if the characters from the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, the Tim Burton Batman movies, the Dark Knight trilogy, and Joaquin Phoenix's Joker appeared in the DCEU.


It would be hard to argue that they are not after this.

Both they and their villains have appeared in the MCU so they are part of the MCU.

Did you watch the Crisis on Infinite Earths TV cross over?

DC stars from Batman 66 to Smallville to the movie Flash Ezra Miller made an appearance.

Anything is possible with a multiverse.


The idea is that each film franchise exists in its own "universe." It is unprecedented, at least to my knowledge, to do what Marvel did in this film, but they did it very well. So yes, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield are playing the actual characters from the old Spider-Man movies.


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The MCU multiverse.

You could even make the argument the Fox X-Men are part of the MCU multiverse when Evan Peters showed up as Wanda's "brother."


Interesting responses, thanks. Are there any retcons? That would be completely unforgivable in my opinion. Does this movie change any of the events of the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield movies, the way Days of Future Past changed the events of the previous X-Men movies?


The closest there is to a retcon is that Doctor Octopus seems to know the Green Goblin's secret identity. It was never explicitly stated in Spider-Man 2 that he didn't, but it also wasn't stated that he did.


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