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HEY BALDY!!! LIE DETECTORS ARE NOT ALWAYS CORRECT.


I cant stand Steve Wilkos, hes such a douchbag who thinks he deserves our respect cause he was a cop and in the military...BIG WHOOP!!!

The way he does these unbelievable "lie decector" tests make me laugh.

They are not always right, but i guess according to Mr. Wilkos they are always 1000000000000000000000000000% accurate. Since he was a "big bad" cop, he should know that.






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They're not even close to being 99% accurate. That's one of the very reasons they aren't admissible.

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Ya god damn sandwich grinch. *Floats across mountainous backdrop*

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"The results are 85% you *beep* And YOU'RE telling HIM to do research."


You are remarkably incorrect. Don't get pissy with other people about research when you have obviously failed to do yours. Please cite the peer reviewed article that reveals the polygraph's 85% accuracy rate. I know you can't, because no such article exists.

There is absolutely no evidence that a lie detector is any more accurate than flipping a coin. There is no special reaction in your nervous system when you tell a lie. Basically a polygraph machine monitors physiological responses to determine if the person being tested is nervous.

A polygraph machine is nothing more than a psychological tool used by the operator to put pressure on the person taking the test. First, there is no one way to read the results of a polygraph. Depending upon who is operating the machine, a readout can be a complete lie or a complete truth. The operator asks questions to determine the baseline for each participant and lies and the truth are "detected" based SOLELY off the word of the operator. The operator chooses how much discrepancy from the baseline a lie must register. There is absolutely no set in stone details and the operator can interpret them any way he feels like.

The point behind the machine is that if the subject actually believes in the accuracy of the polygraph, he will get nervous while taking the test and one of several things will happen: he will get very noticeably nervous, he may be less likely to lie, he may try to steer the conversation a different direction or he might come right out and confess. When used in experiments where the researchers were aware that the subjects were lying or telling the truth, the lie detector was not able to to perform better than chance. More often than not, intimidation is used to make the person being tested nervous and setting of the detector.

One of the biggest tricks perpetrated by the operators on these tests is to inform the subject that they have registered a lie on a certain question when no such thing has happened. Then they are coerced into believing if they confess, the law will go easier on them; which is stupid because police officers have absolutely no influence on the severity of a punishment. This is why most states have laws in place that prevent anyone from being forced to take one of this unfounded and idiotic polygraph tests.

These reasons are why polygraphs are not admissible in criminal cases. They are totally based off the opinion of the operator at the time of the test. In fact police interviews are more accurate. The polygraph is pure chicanery which tries to trick people into confessing crimes.

Bunn, G.C. (2007). Spectacular science: The lie detector's ambivalent powers. History of psychology, 10(2), 156-178.

Myers, B, Latter, R., Abdollahi-Arena, M.K. (2006). The court of publc opinion: Lay perceptions of polygraph testing. Law and Human Behavior, 30(4), 509-523.

Ben-Shakhar, G., Bar-Hillel, M., & Kremitzer, M. (2002). Trial by polygraph: Reconsidering the use of the guilty knowledge technique in court. Law and Human Behavior, 26(5), 527-541.

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Wow! You are so correct.

Listen, would you like to do a real estate deal with me? I have some ocean-front property in Wyoming that I'd like to sell you. It will be worth a fortune after the earthquake hits.

Let me guess: You think landing on the moon never happened.

The police better be watching you, because you clearly think that you can do anything, lie about it, and get away with it.

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"They are not always right, but i guess according to Mr. Wilkos they are always 1000000000000000000000000000% accurate. Since he was a "big bad" cop, he should know that. "

I sort of agree, but there are plenty of cops out there who aren't like him. Wilkos is basically an idiot who has nothing other than intimidation working for him. The entire show is about intimidation. He pronounces people as guilty until proven innocent, he is incapable of making a valid point and instead loses his temper, and yells and screams at everyone because he has NO point.

He gets so bent out of shape about other people but fails to realize that people like him are the problem, not the solution. Rather than try to identify and correct the mistakes in the world, he bullies people who do not agree him 100% on every detail. He's a piece of crap who actually makes Jerry Springer look like a good alternative.

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Not to mention that sociopathic people can pass them, because they don't feel guilt about lying. That's all lie-detector tests measure; just guilty knowledge.

The more people I meet, the more I get why Jane Goodall spends all of her time with chimps.....

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That's exactly why they're inadmissible in court.

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Precisely, vodka_caviar. If multiple tests made for 99% accuracy, all prosecutors would have to do is test witnesses several times.






Get me a bromide! And put some gin in it!

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My dad actually has been working for a security company in R&D department for more than 2 decades, he said lie detectors are basically the laughing stocks of the industry, nobody really uses them anymore since the 90s, only Hollywood writers and government officials that don't know jack *beep* about science would think lie detector is a valid technology.

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