What you need to remember that pickup and dating are just numbers games. If you ever find yourself talking to a girl and run out of things to say, just keep asking questions. Participate in something that sales people Active-Listening: ask simple background questions and follow-up questions based on her answers. Say how you relate, but reveal as little about yourself as possible as the wrong information will be used against you. Politics, sports, music and religion should not be discussed, but if they are, reamin neutral. Ask about where's she's from, what she majored in college. If you get her number, be sure to remember her backghround info because they love it when you can.
However, be mindful of body language, as well. If she isn't asking you any questions, or making voluntary body-contact, then she's probably not interested. It's no big deal, so move on. The problem with the Mystery-Method is that it has these poor guys having long, drawn-out coversations with people and don't really know where to go with it so these groups just get uncomfortable.
Remember...you're allowed to have a say in the matter...maintaining and ending the coversation at least keeps you in control regardless of the outcome. Make it seem like you have something better to do, like you're doing her a favor by talking to her.
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metallicahp66
15 years ago
I don't talk about music and sports and this is why: 1) I'm a Steelers fan living amongst Charger fans in San Diego; and 2) I listen primarily to heavy-metal and that occasionally turns people off...it's different for everyone.
Mark my word, women love jerks because jerks provide a challenge and a sense of mystique, where nice guys have already laid it all out on the table. It's all about living up to the chase. Be calm, cool, professional, a little bit of a jerk, and do NOT compliment them. None of this, "You have a cute overbite" Myster-method crap!
If they say you're asking too many questions, then it's either an indcator of disinterest, but it's a number game so not everyone's gonna say that. This process is just a way of you weeding each other out. You strike me as someone who's looking for a relationship. Be sure to keep in mind that kyou're trying to look for someone that best suits you, rather then finding out what they want to hear. You don't want to find yourself mixed up with some crazy whore just because you're afraid of being alone.
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Ro-bust
15 years ago
its not bs I read the books before I ever saw the show and what I got from them initially is that its to make you a better version of yourself. In fact I've seen and heard mystery in many different articles or interviews say he is not interested about making little cookie cutter pick up artist versions of himself-he’s just giving people the tools to help them get up and running and then hopefully return to the scene with their own insights to make the overall pool of knowledge much more workable.
My own personal experience was of a person who for 25 years barely could hold a conversation with ANYONE other than a handful of very close friends. After read the books I am much more confident and can make conversation with men and women alike. I wouldn’t say i am were I eventually wanna be but within just over a year the difference is remarkable, surely this is the acid test of whether this is all bs or not? Everyday guys who have tried his methods for time and time again come back and say it has worked for them? Yeah mystery’s making money but as a ex social awkward person his writings seemed to be genuinely coming from a person who knew what it was like to be shy and what problems it caused, which to me outbalances anyway criticism of any wealth he may make from all this- he truly understands and is trying to help.
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metallicahp66
15 years ago
The key is to have good friends who can come in handy as wing-men, as well as hanging out at social gatherings where you can make effective progress. As long as you hang out at the right places and associate yourself with the right people, then you can achieve the same results and be self-taught.
The problem is that some of these guys lose the message, forget who they are by tring to be someone else. I had a buddy who read the book and instead of developing natural confidence, and developed false-confidence and went from being an effective team player to a pompous jerk. The false-confidence went to his head and he STILL couldn't full an results.
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Ro-bust
15 years ago
nah mate i was in prime social gathering to meet women and just got to nervous to do anything-this is including the times women approached ME.
your friend is just one case and hes obviously applied the teaching wrong because acting like a jerk isnt gonna get you a chick no matter how confident you come across-it is all about calibration and fitting into the norm.
Also you say the key is too have good friends, what if your social awkwardness stops u from havin good friends or friends that you can interact with on the level needed to do what your suggesting?
I just fail to understand what you guys problem is with the game
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metallicahp66
15 years ago
Whatever...I had a friend who was a total dork and had very poor social skills, but he still had a lot of game because he was confident.
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Ro-bust
15 years ago
Not the same thing then is it! someone whose confident is goin to get intial attraction from girls-well eventually if they play the numbers game, but after that it wont go no where if they act like jerk to their women.
Anyway regardless of all that the way he acts to his friends and the way he acts to his woman in private are most likely to b worlds apart
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