what was wrong with the asian woman?
What was wrong with her why would she do all the other (weird) stuff with the guy but not have sex with him?
too many women? seriously,this excuse was kindda lame...
Because that was their arrangement. That was how they established that they would have sex, but once he became emotionally needed and wanted actual sex from her (instead of all that sadistic smacking each other around) she didn't want that. She was like "I don't wanna hear this emotional bullsh**t, stop snivelling and ravish me!" At least until that point it was on her terms even though he was the one being rough. Get it?
...RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!
yeah I get that this was an arrangement that they had both agreed on ..but then she goes to his brother and tries to seduce him, and he's so mad because he thinks that she wants to sleep with the brother but not HIM...that's the part I don't get, why she's okay with having sex with the brother but not him..after he's begged her over and over, she's fine with doing the other stuff so what's wrong with him (or her) that she wouldn't wanna have the actual sex ?
shareshe never had sex with the younger brother. How do you know she wanted to? Maybe she wanted the same thing from him. Or maybe she liked how he sounded when the older brother told her about him? Maybe she's into people with severe social issues.
shareBecause women, especially kinky ones want things in specific ways or they may not know what they really want.
I've dated a young woman, I was learning she wanted it ROUGH - but for some reason, I went for emotional as I liked her "normal" side. So our dating pretty much ended. But I've seen her like being kinky and and slapped by guys. (not in the face or abuse)
It happens.
Many years ago, I was in love with a woman, and her into me. But it was against our arrangement (somewhat). She couldn't and didn't want to deal with it - family issues. Asian too. See, many Asian family's don't want their kids, especially girls to be in relationships with other races. Now, times are changing so the younger generation tends to be more laxed that the previous.
Anyway, being a black man - she told me her parents would never accept me - but we were in love. But in the end, it was easier break up since we were beyond sex in our relationship. Of course, the character in the movie is fiction and there could be other underlining reasons.
People want different things, we're not all the same... right. Think of all the people you dated in the past. Different aspects of those people is what made you attracted to them.
Hence, its EASIER - in many ways, to date many women (or guys if that applies to you or anyone else) at the same time. I'll date woman A to go dancing, Woman B to go to movies, Woman C to go to plays, etc.
Well,you're right. what you say makes sense in a way. And dude, you've dated some hell of weird women!
Personally I think I can never date more than one guy at a time :)
Well... with movies, there is little time to explain what is going on in a person's head. Even in real life, there maybe interactions between people that others don't understand. One of my female friends - who we a do a lot of movies together, got into a mock fight with me in the parking lot where we pretended to be punching, chocking and head locking each other - okay, some of its real. Then we'd stop and walk away. Gives people a laugh after the shock of seeing what they thought was a couples fight. ;)
Weird women? Dunno. What is considered "normal"? A woman who goes to church and only has sex once a week, in missionary position? Thats a very bland base-line and isn't good sex. Many women complain about men who don't please the woman below, but the other way oral is pretty much understandable. Yet I've meet a women who has issues with guys wanting to give the gift. I don't date those.
Is that the base-line for normal?
There are things that don't turn me on, like anyone else. So like everyone, you may date, etc other people and find what you want. With that said, yes - I've dated some kinky women... also crazy ones. Best to RUN away from the crazy ones. But even a woman who is bland in bed and appear normal, could be psycho crazy. Please NOTE, this applies to GUYS as well.
Some years ago, I meant a woman who "I wouldn't accept a date with a guy if he's even dating someone else", which she is wrong to claim exclusivity before the guy even buys her dinner. I did get to know her, and taught her the flaw of that logic. As any guy could say "I'm not dating anyone" to get into her pants. We did eventually date, great woman and had enjoyed her time. We're still friends 3 years later and hug in clubs.
This Halloween weekend, I went to parties/club that had 3 girls (22~32yrs old) I'm dating and the ex. I introduce them to the ex, and the others girls know I'm seeing each of them. Its about honesty. Not cheating, lying behind their backs. I wanted them all go have fun at the same parties, but otherwise - I usually date 1 on 1 with them at different places. Vs. a girl I know whose BF left her at home to attend a party... which I think was wrong and its up to her how to handle it.
In general, about 70% of men and 60% of women cheat on their partners. I don't want to be part of that group. Hence, the concept of this film, which I was only able to see the first 15min on cable caught my interests. I never heard of it.
PS: I've tell girls/women they should date a lot. See what they like, marrying the first 1-3 guys is EASY and usually failure. Years of bad sex and bad relationship. Getting your heart broken a few times and meeting Mr.Jerk or Mrs.Crazy here and there is a way to gain experience of WHO to not have in your future.
PS2: Still picked up 3 girls this weekend, just talking - some interests. But I think 3 total is all I can handle at the same time ;) But I'm not a player and I *HAVE* called up women and said "Im off the market".
Some movies I'd recommend - look them up on IMDB:
Romance (1999 French) - sexual, womans point of view. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0194314/ (Shes in love with dull guy - needs more)
Secretary (2002) - Spader, sexual - relationship kinks. Seen people like this, not really my bag, but I understand.
Crash (1996) - Spader, Sexual emotional damage - kinky. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/ (Note: the DVD cover, a girl a meet 3 days ago has the same build and hair... wow)
Lie with me (2005) - love and sex, getting more than they imagined.
Ah, saw one on HULU that was an excellent relationship movie. "Strictly Sexual" about two couples.
This is a short post. :)
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Congrats...
Out of most of the women I've meet or no longer meet, I still think of the woman from 2 years ago. We never had a fight. :( Making "love" to someone is different from just sex... both are fun thou. :)
I know and expect women I date to be seeing other guys. Unless we're exclusive or become serious, I shouldn't make such demands that I cannot honor myself. But to me, the real balancing act is that the girl I'm with at the club that night is who I'm spending time with. I'll still talk to other people, be social, etc.
I agree with you on "Lie with me", concept happens in real life, but its still more about sex with this movie. Crash is just great, I didn't want to see it - my mother rented it and it was like... wow, great movie, with lots of breasts. (Spoilers a bit)
Can there be such people? Yes - but very rare. High mortality rate, but its not much different than when people accidentally hang themselves with sexual acts (other than causing death to innocent by-standards) Such "Damage" people are like that (Another great movie) or go through self-destruction during depression, broken heart, death, etc.
Good luck on the married thing. Do things together, always remember that. No kids for a few years, and when/if you do - don't stop going out as JUST a couple.
Thanks :)
yeah, definitely no kids for couple of years! I still want to enjoy my life :)
btw I wanted to recommend these movies to you, if you haven't already watched them:
"Babel" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449467/
"The Dreamers" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309987/
"Requiem for a dream" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/
Hehe... I'm actually in competition for a woman against another guy, I think she is finding me more "compatible". :)
Attraction of many factors, vs just physical or "comfort/settle" are two things. Like a good female friend of mine is a freak, we've fooled around, but for us to be BF/GF would not work out in the long run, even thou I am one of the few guys who can actually dance with her (She is physical and punching tends to happen), think of TankGirl. Her BF is on the regular side and his friends think she's a slut. Okay, maybe a bit :) - but it hurt her feelings, she's nicer than she appears. Oh well, her life, choice and their dynamics. At least he's actually a pretty good guy at heart, I think.
Ah... kids can be good, most of the time. But wanting to go out means getting a baby sitter, etc. Buy all your toys adult first (Car, 72" TV, computer, house) and travel, see the world! Europe, Asia, etc. Cause the little poop-machines will eat into that. Memories of the little one waking you up because his first tooth came out are priceless. Wait until you're 30 or at least 3-5 years married. And afterwards, go out as a couple still. My advice and that of friends we give to others.
Babel : Great movie, pulled at my guts... I was at tears. (I'm a baby I guess)
"My Neighbor Totoro" is a great kid animation and " Grave of the Fireflies " is one of the best war movies ever made (Kids in warII) that I don't think I can ever watch again.
SPOILER SPOILER on Babel for 2-3 lines of text.
I understand some Japanese culture (not much different than Korean) and that thread was so well done. You feel bad for the girl and her actions is within that culture. Still, even western girls go through same BS. Ah life, always trying to kill us.
Dreamers : An very interesting movie, one of Roger Ebert's favorites (I grew up watching Siskel and Ebert, and there hasn't been movie critics 1/4 as good.
Requiem for a dream : I haven't seen it... Reading about it, I don't think I'll ever will. An GF feel into that world 10 years ago, I tried to pull her out... Jennifer Connelly is one of my favorite hottie actress's thou. ;)
We're on a roll on sexual movies... ;)
Shortbus http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367027/ is about a sex therapist who hasn't had an orgasm with her husband. Makes you turn your head go sideways, "eh?!" But then again, many people in the Mental profession are crazy themselves, perhaps caused by dealing with crazy people. Anyways, this movie is very graphic, even with gay sex. But its still about people and relationships. Sex is PART of the relationship of any couple.
A month or so ago, a cute gay boy (he's a model) was sitting next to me, he was depressed and so I asked what is up. He talked about abusive BF issues. And what he talked about was no different between man & woman, so I gave advice that didn't matter about gender to move on, find someone more respectful. Life is short and difficult as it is. Sometimes a 3rd person perspective is good. I'll admit I've learn lessons from life but also from watching some of these movies.
An example is "Relax... its just sex" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159696/ with Jennifer Tilly which came on CableTV many years ago. The opening IS great. Lets just say, the lesbian opening was very shocking and I had to cover my eyes. Older, wiser - I'd find it funny, amusing and still shocking.
Oh, loved Tilly in "BOUND" too.
Bully with Nick Stahl http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242193/ is based on a true story about a very mean teen boy and the revenge from others. Pretty much all the characters are typical American kids doing drugs, sex and stupid stuff. Great acting by all. Do feel sorry about some of the characters. A life tip, if a person/friend of yours is unlikeable - walk away.
Let me show you a trick: Fireflies = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095327/ To make a link work, add the code before and after (I only started doing it here) Use brackets [] with url on the inside [url] To see the command, click on the "markup enbabled" link that shows up when you hit reply, just below the subject line, above the BODY TEXT. :)
PS: I'm typing a lot, date was tired out from Friday night to come out dancing tonight, so I'm burning some energy. I don't watch just sexual movies. I love indi films the most or any good movie from any country - I have over 1000 DVDs of every category. I think I may have only 1 playboy one. The sexual scenes in Star Trek Voyager with 7-of-9 and Enterprise turned me turned me off the series. ie: sex/nudity with no plot, for no other reasons than to make guys drool. Compared to FireFly in which the captain is found naked because bad guys were being bad and for laughs.
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SHE SAYS OVER AND OVER THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT INTERCOURSE WITH THE OLDER BROTHER BECAUSE SHE BELIEVED HE HAD INTERCOURSE WITH OTHER WOMEN...SHE POSSIBLY WANTED INTERCOURSE WITH THE YOUNGER BROTHER BECAUSE HE HADN'T HAD INTERCOURSE SINCE POSSIBLY HIGH SCHOOL.........OR MAYBE SHE SOUGHT OUT THE YOUNGER BROTHER TO PUMP HIM FOR INFO ABOUT WHAT SHE THINKS IS COLLUSION GOING ON BETWEEN THE OLDER BROTHER AND THE NEW GUY.
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