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I felt more sympathy for Aileen Wournos than Mary Griffith...


It's just something I can't be at all logical about. Aileen was probably unredeemable, but she had some sweetness in her soul. There was nothing sweet about Mary Griffith. She was a cold, unforgiving bitch with a meager spirit. I found her despicable. I'd like to think I am usually a forgiving type person, but I wanted to see her suffer. A big part of this is likely because Bobby was so sweet and so gentle and, I think, he really struggled to do what was the right thing. And his mother was less than no help whatsoever.

Maybe Mary Griffith could have become an alcoholic or addicted to pain meds or a slut or something. Then she could have become HIV positive and been FORCED to understand something that she didn't understand before. To me, that would have been poetic justice. Part of me is kidding, but part of me is not. I cannot stand those self-righteous, judgmental religious types. They absolutely disturb me to the core.

I am, by the way, really mostly talking about the movie and the characters as they were portrayed here. I am sure the real-life MG must be at least a little bit more sympathetic than she is in the movie. Though I think it was in extremely poor taste (and this is giving her the benefit of the doubt) to have actually said "Bobby gave up on love". Sigourney Weaver did an excellent job, indeed.


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Mary Griffith could be considered a tyrant Mr. H, with her dogmatic and steadfast religious beliefs. In spite of this and within herself, she did mean well. Then again, perhaps that is not good enough. Sigourney Weaver didn't portray her with much sympathy either and the film is not fleshed out enough. This was a deep, disturbing tale, where a mirror was held up to our faces and it covered some pertinent and controversial ground, and a tv film that condensed this important story into just 90mins, just doesn't really cut it. Most of the selfish, self-entitled heterosexual herd—be they religious or not—just wouldn't really care. They are dense and ignorant regarding homosexuality and upbringing their children and take things for granted. I do believe most deserve to suffer and not just Mary Griffith.

You should have seen this plain looking, dark haired, pale skinned tattooed skank I saw earlier today, with her equally dense looking and douchy looking partner. They were pushing their baby in a pram across the road. They didn't look like they had half a brain between them and even if they did, it would only serve to function at a very base and primitive level. F<>k, these idiots are breeding the future. It's frightening. Anyway, I digress, and Mary Griffith did have to learn the hard way and she has redeemed herself and I don't think it is fair for us to condemn her, when she has become aware of what she triggered and she is the one who has had to live with herself. She—like many other females who wouldn't have half the life they had if it wasn't for the males in their lives—took her family and what she had for granted and could only focus on the "afterlife". What a fruitcake!

Bobby was also 20yrs old when he killed himself. I don't think he was very strong. Yes, he was understandably upset that his mother had estranged him from the family; but what was his father and other siblings doing? They needed to confront Mary and tell her to get with the program, or they would disown her. It was a tough time to come out as well, with the stigma of AIDS on the homosexual community. Bobby had a boyfriend and the film alluded that he may have been cheating on him, and also we don't know if Bobby himself may have become hiv infected. He didn't want to be hated, and he was living in a society that was doing just that. He needed his families support and they weren't there. Whatever was going on with Bobby, he was an adult and needs to take half of the responsibility for his actions. The film briefly touched upon the impact of the suicidee's actions and how it affects those left behind. Bobby's older brother was portrayed as a mess. Cute too! 😄


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I know. I basically am in agreement with you, Rascal. Sigourney was just so cold in this movie. And that is one of my least favorite personality traits. I am sure I will never know the guilt feelings that MG must have suffered in real life. But in the movie I wanted to take her by the shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs popped.

(Your digression was very charming, btw.) Yes, the brother was very cute. But I watched the movie for the 2nd time this evening and it didn't really have the same impact on me. It was so jumpy and abrupt at times, and there were a few scenes that were unintentionally funny, e.g. his Rocky Horror chums and that youth church study group was ridiculous, as was that awful lady psychiatrist. And that grandmother was just dreadful. When MG asks her if she thinks Bobby is in Heaven, the grandmother is like "I don't know! But you're making the guests uncomfortable!" What a perfectly horrible person!


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The problem with the movie, was that is what so episodic and it tired to cram so much into it's short runtime, that is was quite jarring. You couldn't quite get into any one scene, without it then segueing into another.

Grandmaw was despicable. Even the grandchildren didn't like her. I suppose she was essential to show how Mary would have been conditioned by this old cow. She was partly to blame and it would have also filtered down from her own upbringing. That psychiatrist was a demon in disguise. How cold and calculating did she look? What a vicious circle aye!

Have you seen Shelter? I very much enjoyed it. There is also The Matthew Shepard Story with Stockard Channing as his mother.

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