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questions about the relationships (spoilers)



OK. I enjoyed the film - certainly it was better than average. But I must admit there are a few things I didn't quite understand. If you haven't seen it don't read this cos there are spoilers in the questions (and almost certainly in any answers that get posted).

First of all, were Ged and Ratter brothers? I thought the argument at the barbecue was Ratter taking the piss cos that was just a lie they used.

Secondly, were Ged and Francis brothers? I kind of thought that was being revealed at the torture scene in the woods.

Third, what was the relationship between Ratter and Paul? Were they lovers? Paul was clearly gay (or at least bi), but what about Ratter? And when Ratter went to meet the tough guy ("you're hard man to find") did the guy grab him by the nuts or something? I thought that was weird.

Finally, what was the piece of paper Francis gave Ged at the communion party? Clearly it somehow identified where the con-couple were, so Ged could get his revenge. But what was it, and how did Francis find out where they were?

Thanks in advance.

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OK. I enjoyed the film - certainly it was better than average. But I must admit there are a few things I didn't quite understand. If you haven't seen it don't read this cos there are spoilers in the questions (and almost certainly in any answers that get posted).

First of all, were Ged and Ratter brothers? I thought the argument at the barbecue was Ratter taking the piss cos that was just a lie they used.

Yes.

Secondly, were Ged and Francis brothers? I kind of thought that was being revealed at the torture scene in the woods.

No.

Third, what was the relationship between Ratter and Paul? Were they lovers? Paul was clearly gay (or at least bi), but what about Ratter? And when Ratter went to meet the tough guy ("you're hard man to find") did the guy grab him by the nuts or something? I thought that was weird.

Paul wasn't gay. Just because you let some smackhead suck you off doesn't mean you're gay. And no they weren't lovers.

Finally, what was the piece of paper Francis gave Ged at the communion party? Clearly it somehow identified where the con-couple were, so Ged could get his revenge. But what was it, and how did Francis find out where they were?

The piece of paper was what you think it was. And Franner found out where tey were because he's a 'big time' scouse gangster with a few connections.

Thanks in advance.

No problem.

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Hey - thanks for that.

Can I challenge you slightly on Paul's sexuality though? It's not just the fact that he had the guy suck him off. There were other hints. e.g. when Moby saw him and Ratter in the brothel he said something like, "I didn't think this was your scene - especially you." There's also the way Paul clearly adored Ratter. I'm not sure the possibility can be so easily dismissed.

Incidentally I am gay myself, so I'm not simplifying or trivialising it, and saying there'd be anything wrong with it if he was.

Anyway, it's a good film. I'm surprised it didnt't make more of a splash when it came out. Having seen it last night I've been thinking about it quite a lot today - cant get certain scenes out of my head, which is always a sign of a good film, I think. :)

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- Quint, Jaws.

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Another hint.....

He was called Paul the Hom

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8=))
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- Quint, Jaws.

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"Paul wasn't gay. Just because you let some smackhead suck you off doesn't mean you're gay"
Really? Is this the "the taker is a fag but the giver ain't" argument trotted out by guys who won't admit what they are? Sometimes known as the "greek defense"? I don't care what people do, but c'mon, getting blow jobs off guys is what I would call a homosexual act, and would therefore make you gay, which is fine, but let's have some reality here!

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Christ.

Aren't you a clever bunny?

Now, in to the keepnet you go. I think I'll call you Nemo.

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I think he is right. Tell your buddies You got a BJ from a guy and see if they share your opinion. I bet they won't agree with You.


Women are like deer - You can't just charge in, you gotta stalk 'em...

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Paul was gay.

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You let some dude suck you off , your gay , there's no argument around that.

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At last someone talking sense, if you have a guy perform any sexual act on you, then your GAY, no ifs or buts about it!!! well maybe some butts!!lol

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At last someone talking sense, if you have a guy perform any sexual act on you, then your GAY, no ifs or buts about it!!! well maybe some butts!!lol


Ha

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First of all, were Ged and Ratter brothers?
They were not blood relatives, Geds mother took Ratter in when he was a little boy, so they grew up in the same household and considered each other family.

Secondly, were Ged and Francis brothers?

No, they were not brothers. Ged took Franners under his wing when they were kids, this gave an otherwise bullied Francis a bit of status which in turn eleviated the bullying, thus Francis loved Ged in a brotherly fashion and would do anything for him.

Third, what was the relationship between Ratter and Paul?

They were just friends who shared a passion for acts of a more deviant sexual nature, no attraction on either part to my knowledge.

Not sure on the last question as i havent seen the end of the film, bit of paper thing isnt mentioned in the book.

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useful. thanks.
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"Maybe I should go alone"
- Quint, Jaws.

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