Any one watch?


I thought it was pretty intresting



http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&id=fatkid8me

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Excellent, well made little documentary.
However, it didn't change my views at all.

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I thought the different speakers were well chosen and approached the issue from many different angles. I found almost everyone's addition to the dialogue compelling. Except, of course, for "soundbite man" who (I think) works for the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. I refuse to believe that man is employable, let alone real! I was especially sickened by him as he revealed his top ten list of their ridiculously sensationalistic anti-drug ads. What a perfect example for the banality of evil. However, it was a pleasure to see the always spicy Christopher Hitchens.

It didn't change my views either, but I'm against any prohibition of marijuana.

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It was a very interesting and well made documentary, but I could not help getting angry with the uninformed and insensitive views displayed by the anti marijuana spokesmen in the film. Plus, it brought my hatred of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. back to the surface. The war on drugs is a farce. Members/supporters of the DEA are immoral. Period.

I want to watch No Country for Old Men & There Will Be Blood.
So give me a stage, where this bull here can rage.

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My father died from lung cancer and reported relief in the later stages using "marinol", which is a derivative, that was available at the time. It worked for him, helped with the pain, his appetite returned and he gained some weight, lost the gray pallour and even regained his sense of humour.

It's regrettable to say, but those who are so vehemently opposed, more than likely have never been around someone with a terminal illness, who's subject to
severe pain.

Those "Law Enforcement" types they profiled were unbeleivable.



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I was similarly outraged by the ignorance and vitriol put on display by many of the antis in this film. However, I found myself almost sympathetic to Steve Reed, who was essentially like a human drug dog with his bizarre ability to see subtle shades of green. He truly believes he's doing a good thing by keeping an illegal drug off the streets. I still think he probably has the IQ of a peanut, but I couldn't really find fault with his intentions. Anyone else have a similar reaction?

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Rsalomone, its good to hear that before he passed on your father was able to find at least some relief through his use of marinol. However, I detest the fact that such a drug exists simply because pharmaceutical companies/the government don't want people with serious illnesses to grow their own medicine in an inexpensive and harmless way.

Prkrti, as far as Steve Reed goes, I pity him more than I sympathize with him, and it is clear that his IQ is significantly lower than that of a comatose tomato plant. Apart from the occasional sociopathic murderer, people's intentions (i.e. the ultimate result of their actions) are rarely faulty. Look at Adolf Hitler or Ernesto Che Guevara and you will know what I mean. Nearly everyone wants to make the world a better place, however, many people are misinformed, and thus we get morons like Steve Reed. His ignorance was pretty funny though. At one point near the end he says something to the effect of "Cops 1, criminals 0" after destroying the marijuana plantation. I guess all of the millions upon millions worth of marijuana that those harvesters (and others like them) got to the market before getting shut down don't count towards the score? This guy was the textbook definition of a tool.

I want to watch No Country for Old Men & There Will Be Blood.
So give me a stage, where this bull here can rage.

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Dog, while I'm a little confused why you've conflated someone's intentions and the ultimate result of their actions, your points are well taken. It seems that while one's intentions may be benign, ignorance could betray these good intentions and create a catastrophic result. I do feel Reed is not affecting one iota of the positive influence in this world he believes himself to be, however I think a comparison between genocide and his brand of "herbicide" is a bit hyberbolic!

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I apologize. What I meant to say was 'their expected ultimate result of their actions'. I should have been more exact in my phrasing, as it is true that intentions do not always equal the ultimate result in the end. However, a person's expected result/what they want the outcome to be = intentions.

I do not mean to compare the harm caused by Reed to the harm cause by a Guevara or Hitler. I just wanted to point out that one's intentions are generally good, even when one's actions have an overall negative impact, and that this applies to people across the board (from the most powerful war criminal in history, to an insignificant and pitiful DEA agent). If we look at a person like Che, who (IMHO) genuinely wanted to eliminate the corrupt element from government in many third world countries, you would have to agree that he had good intentions. Also, as he saw it, Hitler was defending his oppressed countrymen from a relentless oppressor, so despite all of the horrible things he did, he had good intentions.

Is Reed as "bad" as either of these two men? No. Does he have good intentions which are thoroughly clouded and corrupted by his immense ignorance, just as these two men did? Yes.

I can honestly understand how you would sympathize with Reed; because he does not mean to cause harm, but for me, it is not an option, as it is MHO that damn near everyone has good intentions.

I want to watch No Country for Old Men & There Will Be Blood.
So give me a stage, where this bull here can rage

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the road to hell is paved with good intentions

those dea agents are a joke they havent even dented the cannabis industry
no matter what they do they cant stop it they cant even slow it down

i love how there all doing it for the kids to keep the kids of drugs lol
i guess thats what they tell themshelfs all day long so they can sleep at night

and him getting an award for stopping 11 million dollars worth of drugs over his
career big deal if i was in the dea i could bust 11 million every single year

i thought it was funny how they are to lazy to carry it out themshelfs and had to get it air lifted out and then the @hole takes there fruit and eats it so hes a thief himshelf or i guess they were just pot growers so they dont deserve rights

the rich cant keep it illegal for much longer and they know it and at there age there gonna need the weed more than we will isnt life ironic lol

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"At one point near the end he says something to the effect of "Cops 1, criminals 0" after destroying the marijuana plantation"

That was hysterical. That guy is one of the douchiest douches that ever was.

The guy was talking about violent crime and stuff when he was patting himself on the back over and over and over and over again. Maybe on that kind of scale, with the amount they took, they might have a point. However I think you have to be very out of touch with reality to think that the average pot smoker is a violent criminal who must be stopped. And even if they are dumb enough to think that I have such a hard time understanding why anybody would possibly be opposed to terminally or chronically (haha chronic) ill patients getting their medicine. When they showed clips of the debate on the medicinal marijuana bill all of those who were opposed to it had reasons that had nothing to do with the actual issue at hand. If they are ok with oxycontin and vicatin and percaset being legal there is no reason that a less dangerous and more effective drug with fewer side effects shouldn't be legal for those who desparetly need it. People are ridiculous.

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