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What was the point of the horse carriage chase scene?


What was it supposed to do for the story?

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Really? To me that seemed to make the movie even darker than it was.

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I guess you're right about the squeaky part, but the horses were pushing their faces out of their dark shadows, their red eyes with malice in them, the Future Ghost sending them after him, then eventually driving the carriage and reaching for him...that seemed pretty dark to me.

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I think that carriage was carrying Scrooge's coffin.

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I guess that could have been it, but why reveal it to Scrooge so soon? And then after that scene, how would he not know that he was doomed to die?

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I agree, I think it was just added in to work as eye candy for the younger audience. Otherwise, it served no purpose.

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I agree with Dan_the_Man here, it went even more dark. I thought that seen was rediculous and coincidentally I just posted about that scene in a different thread. I'll repost what I said, it was in response to what someone else said.

REPOSTED...

This version does follow the novel pretty well, but parts were obviously added in (i.e. Scrooge shrinking to the size of a mouse).


That was so stupid! Even worse is when he's shrunk running in the street like a maniac! Scrooge is supposed to learn from watching his past, present, and future. Not be scared to death and shrinkage! I don't believe that after that incident he would sincerely change his ways to be good. He'd be scared to death and angry at these ghosts for almost killing him and if any change, it would be because he was terrified they'd come back and therefore any positive change would not be sincere.
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I don't necessarily agree with that; if the point wasn't for him to be scared of what was going to happen to him, then why would he change? What was the whole point of Jacob Marley's visit, or the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come if he's not meant to be scared? Of course he should be afraid; if he doesn't change his ways he will end up with a fate worse than Jacob Marley's.

I'm not saying fear should be the only reason that he changes. The other reason is that he knows he has done wrong, and truly wants to change his ways. But if he changes at all, fear of going to hell in chains is a darn good reason to do so.

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Have you ever read Charles Dicken's classic? The point was for him to sincerely change as a person. Jacob Marly came as a ghost in chains and talked to him explaining how it was the people he should have been helping. There's a difference between terrorizing someone and scaring them.

He should be scared but not so terrified that he changes just for that reason alone. Besides you can't force people to change by forcing them or scaring them. That makes them worse. They become spiteful, bitter, traumatic, and end up hurting others. As can be seen by some jails where people go in, and come out worse. Or as some call them, Wearhouses, or Psycho Manufacturing Plants.

If it were true that you could change someone by terrorizing them then all you would have to do to conform people to society's morals is instil trauma in them and beat them into submission.

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Yes, I have read Dicken's classic, countless times. And I agree with you that he was supposed to sincerely change as a person. But I'm also saying that fear has to be a factor. In the book (as well as the movies), he was completely terrified when he saw his name on that grave, and did cause him to totally change. Yes, there were other moments that led up to him making that change, but that moment was the moment that truly set that in stone.

Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol as a very dark story. I think this movie did a very good job of making this clear. That carriage scene though, took it too far as it made the story darker and as a whole did not serve the story. We live in a time period where most movie directors focus too much on special effects and not enough on story. IMO, however, that scene was the only flaw for this movie.

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It was an opportunity to show off the 3D/mo cap effects 5'm a big fan of the movie, and even I admit the scene was pointless.

It was pretty cool in the 3D theater though.

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Agree with Commander Jim - and I really hate the horse and carriage chase sequence, it's horrible and unnecessary and there are other parts of the book they could have used the screen time for.

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It was very scary to me. Fit the book and movie.

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