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This will just be more feminist nonsense like the first one


They turned Myers into a joke in the 2018 film along with all the male characters who are either dumb and incompetent or pricks. Yet of course the women are all strong and wonderful.

So cliche and boring of Hollywood at this point. There goes another franchise they ruin.

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the franchise never recovered from the terrible 90s/00s sequels anyway

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Yes, the sequels should have never been made.

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you're wrong. halloween h20 is one of the best films in this series. it's in the top 5. steve miner did an amazing job directing it. it has a great feel and it has so much quality filmmaking.

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i agree lukebarnett, it's a dman shame the series didn't end with H20...the ending was perfect.

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I was highly anticipating Halloween 2018, but some comments by JLC before the movie gave me pause. She had a long diatribe comparing Laurie and the #metoo movement. Ugh. Next thing you know we’ll be hearing about Michael’s toxic masculinity and white privilege.

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I think she was eventually forced to say all that nonsense. Early marketing for Halloween 2018 (mainly the interviews she did), she was telling everyone to not read between the lines of the movie's plot and ignore all the PC/SJW crap people had started bringing up when talking about the movie. The movie was just supposed to be fun/entertaining from what she was saying in the early marketing. But then out of nowhere and the final month or two of the marketing, she started saying all this PC/SJW nonsense. So I'm guessing someone made her say that stuff. I heard Jason Blum is pretty liberal/left and a PC/SJW supporter. Maybe it was him that told her to say all this stuff since Blumhouse made Halloween 2018. I didn't have a problem though with all this PC/SJW stuff since the horror genre has ALWAYS made the men look bad and the women look good. Just watch any of the Halloween, Friday The 13th, or Nightmare On Elm Street movies. It's always been there.

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Do you have a problem with feminism?

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modern feminism (aka hairy ass feminists aka femi nazis) yes I do...the kind that isn't actually for equality just female superiority yes I have a problem with that type of feminism.

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Do you have a problem with people not subscribing to an ideology?

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How can you not? Modern feminism is just a hate mob.

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Modern feminism thinks men can be women 😂😂

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Todays feminists suck.

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The horror genre has always been about making the women look good and the men bad. Go watch ANY Halloween movie, ANY Friday The 13th movie, or ANY of the Nightmare On Elm Street movies. Heck, throw in the Scream movies as well. They are all like that. Plus the horror genre started the whole final girl thing, and it was Halloween 1978 that pretty much started it. That was 40+ YEARS AGO. There is SOME horror movies with a final guy or male protagonist/main character, but majority of them (like 85-90%) make the women look good and the men bad. It's nothing new that started recently. Halloween 2018 was just doing what has ALWAYS been around in the horror genre.

But just look at Halloween 4 (WHICH CAME OUT IN 1988). Rachel and Jamie were resourceful and knew when to retreat and stuff and try to come up with a plan. But then you got Rachel's love interest Brady that is all about wanting to bang both Rachel and the sheriff's daughter. Plus he thought he could be all macho because he had a shotgun. He should've retreated retreating with Rachel and Jamie to the roof of the house instead of staying behind to fight Michael. Him thinking with the shotgun and his muscles instead of his brain led to Michael killing him. Then you also got the idiot worker at the power plant that turned his back on Michael. Michael ends up killing him, causing Haddonfield to lose all power. The only smart male character in the Halloween movies is Loomis, but he can be questionable at times.

So yeah. Nothing new. It's always been there. Halloween 2018 is doing similar stuff that I've seen in previous Halloween movies or even the Jason, Freddy, and Scream movies.

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Yep...we even have a trope name now based on this phenomenon. OP's worried that Hollywood's ruining a franchise that he never watched.

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There is no such thing as feminist nonsense. #IBelieveHer!

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They have women survive because they're the weaker sex, naturally, so they garner more sympathy from the audience.

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The hilarious irony of final girls in horror that nobody talks about is this:

Girls are chosen to be the final characters to stand up to the bad guy and survive BECAUSE they’re girls. Because 1) society sympathizes with females more than males, 2) society instinctively wants to protect females over males, and 3) women are physically weaker than men so it’s more thrilling when they survive because the odds against them are higher.

The funny part is that it’s almost like the old “bigotry of lowered expectations” at play.

Besides that usual crap the only thing that really fit some over the top feminazi stuff was the ending during the “badass” mob scene. One bulldog of a woman walked by the camera practically growling in such a fake way. But the men were being portrayed the same way, it’s just less believable when it’s a cover mom instead of a hockey coach. I didn’t see any Avengers 4-type “grrl power” scene.

Also, does this new trilogy turn all that on its head anyway since JLC is now an incompetent paranoid weirdo?

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