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Meta confirmation of the movie's moral


A lot of the posts in this forum about The Wave are saying things along the line of "they didn't really do anything that bad", "the wave kids were the victims", or "they had a liberal agenda".

If you hold one of these beliefs, you're proving the movie's point far more than you know, and it absolutely terrifies me.

"They didn't really do anything that bad!": Yes they did. Just because the fallout was limited (only two students died! That's like nothing!) doesn't mean the potential wasn't there. These kind of movements are analogous to drunk driving; you might make it home ok a few times, put you're still putting everyone's life at jeopardy.

"The wave kids were the victims!": No, they weren't. It's true that crimes were committed against them (they were attacked by the anarchists under the bridge), but that doesn't make them victims. It establishes them as a unit. It was essentially turf warfare, which is the neighborhood version of real warfare. Other people were instigating because the wave was (rightfully) seen as a threat. Then that sense of victimization only spurs the movement to the point where they feel a need to overtake those that they believe to be their oppressors (cough jews during WWII cough).

"They had a liberal agenda!": Seriously? You're watching a movie about fascism and your takeaway is that it's important which side of a 2 party system they most aligned with? Here's a secret; fascism doesn't have political allegiance. The only thing it does align itself with is people that like to call themselves the victim. That happens on both sides of the aisle, but by screaming "ahhh scary liberals", you (as an individual, not a member of your party) are showing yourself to be one of the people most susceptible to such a movement.


So yeah. If you're going to criticize the movie, at least do so without inadvertently supporting it.

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I agree.

The movie was pretty even handed showing the positive aspects of the community atmosphere that the fascism fostered. And I think that's where people start saying "they didn't really do anything that bad" because they see the good and then, like in the movie, are completely blinded to the bad things.

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I agree.. The film showed that the kids were more community minded, worked together and followed rules so there were definitely some take-away messages from the project however they also used it as an excuse to bully people who were different which is never good and obviously the boy took it much too far. I don't think it's necessarily the teachers fault that the kid took it to extremes although he definitely should have noticed and done something about it much sooner! He also should have done the debriefing session much sooner.. Most of the kids got it and what he was trying to teach them - it was just the one boy who obviously had deeper issues

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Yes, fascism has some positive aspects. For example, the trains run on time. See Malaysia for a modern example.

*rolls eyes*

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Not everybody is intelligent as you and me.

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