...yet Holly preferred messy Messer to him. Why?
She had a crush on the doctor at first sight, he liked her too and he was way better at being attractive and seducing her, he helped her daughter, and he was a much better catch than Eric Messer.
So why would Holly prefer Messer?
I loved the pediatrician character. So honorable. When he found out that Holly still had unresolved feelings for Messer, he left: "I will miss you guys".
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i don't think that was so much "honor", as it was just "not stupid".
he clearly was able to see that any relationship they might have had was doomed, due to the whole slew of unresolved feelings she had for messer hanging over their heads, as well as messers unresolved feelings for her, and sophie.
it is difficult enough when they are a divorced couple with child, but in this situation, it would have been really impossible to make it work for them long term. she clearly still wanted to be with messer.
Dr. Sam figuring that out, and dealing with it the way he did, just makes him not stupid, but not really honorable.
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You really are a giant $@#!ing idiot.
shareHow would he truly know that, she had been sleeping with him and did truly like him she may have liked them both but he should have just ask/talked to her and asked her to be really honest. My guess is she would have said i'm not sure he would have had a better chance with something like that. He would have been a good provider and the kid and women were used to him. She really saw Messer as the better father and more true to the plan of the diciest and that may have been what she really wanted. The doctor was not part of the equation. I always feel with guys that do not talk up for someone they truly like then he does not deserve them. This view is true for both of them at crucial times.
shareThe Doc was kind of a dream man for Holly. She never really knew him or talked to him. They went out together when Holly already had some sort of connection with Messer and she knew him much better because they used to go out and spent time because of their mutual friends.
Messer was the real thing and the guy she fell in love with even though the Doc became much more important later in the movie I'm sure he knew he wasn't just gonna fit in the picture.
I agree with you.
What she felt for Messer was real and deep.
Completely agree. I never really saw the love chemistry between her and Messer. It felt more like an infatuation with the fact that she was able to change him from a bad boy to a father figure.
With the doctor it felt more like fact love to me. They were trying to set her up with him in the first place, he was a customer who use to flirt with her every time her came in, and then he also ends up being Sohpie's doctor who Holly goes to see. And on top of all that he ends up being her dream guy who loves her AND Sophie.
Sorry but Messer can barely help the family financially and for all anyone knows, he may give up the whole situation again. I mean my older brother IS Messer- he has a easy going job, never has to worry about too much, and gets hot chicks left and right; and I know very well that he would have fun raising a kid, but eventually he would want his old life back and want to sleep with hot chicks again. Men at that age (30's) do not simply change, they are set in their ways and no cute baby or hot chick would get them to change.
As for the whole, the heart knows what is wants and love is illogical stuff I feel that at an early stage of "love" which these two had, you can nip that in the bud and move on. Love, like fear or anger or any emotion can be controlled to an extent through logic.
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Men at that age (30's) do not simply change
I didnt see Holly change him AT all..... Sophie changed him. One thing that is very apparent even when hes just the friend is that Messer loves Sophie.
He cant change? says who? Everyone eventually has to grow up. the death of a friend can change people easily.
I didnt buy them "having" to sell the house. Holly had her own business. I get that, The mortgage was paid for on the house. she nolonger had to pay rent. housing takes up the majority of a persons bills. The up keep? What up keep? the house looked brand new. Her bills wouldnt be THAT much more in the house to overcome the rent she would have been paying elsewhere.
Sam rubbed me the wrong way too..... Messer left and like 2 months later Sam is essentially living in the house? playing daddy. It was very bizairre and a bit irresponsible if you ask me of Holly. Sophie lost a dad/ Lost Messer (not really he was still coming back and keeping her a bit) / and bam Holly has another guy living in the house.
What was there to love about Sam? He was a doctor with money? He was so in love with Sophie that on the first date as her pediatrician he thought it was ok to tell Messer to take her to the ER and he was continue his date. If he was such a great guy he would have realized that Holly would want to go straight to the baby.
I agree...I didn't see Holly change him. And I didn't see Holly happy about changing a "bad boy." I think she fell in love with him after seeing more of him than she had originally seen.
I actually LOVED that the doctor was pretty much a nice perfect guy. It makes the love for Messer seem more real. In the end she just loved him more, despite all of his flaws.
"replacement" Messer!
What was there to love about Sam? He was a doctor with money? He was so in love with Sophie that on the first date as her pediatrician he thought it was ok to tell Messer to take her to the ER and he was continue his date. If he was such a great guy he would have realized that Holly would want to go straight to the baby.
I think same goes to women. When you're 30 or you won't change. You may hide and pretend, but will never change. We are who we are.
shareSimply because it fit the plot. If Holly were mature she'd see that doc was a better catch. In Hollywoodland we're supposed to believe that the womanizer would out of the blue change his ways all for the woman who has treated him like dirt and realize he wants to settle down with no one but her. This movie was a mess. The book I think it's VERY loosely based on is Family Trust and deserved a much better movie adaptation.
shareBworm76,
Said it all.
Also Doc was balding and Messer had a better physique.
if the doc were such a "great" catch, why is he divorced!!!
You can't control who you fall in love with.
"The truth resists simplicity." - John Green
because women are f*&king crazy. End of discussion :)
shareIf you choose with your brain, you get cozy life and empty heart, that's why.
shareI thought the point was not necessarily that Messer was better than Sam. I think the point was that if their friends had never died, Holly would have dated Sam and they would have most likely had ended up together and had a happy existence. But because of the turn of events, Holly and Messer ended up creating their own family unit that worked for them. It's like Messer speech at the end - it was not just that he missed Holly or Sophie but rather that he missed the family that they had created. Surely, part of a marriage's success is what you have invested in it.
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