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Are there really childrens baseball leagues where they don't keep score?


I've never heard of such a thing where they don't keep score or count of strikes or balls... Is this real or did the writers just make this up to exaggerate the flawed progressive parenting methods?

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I think so, though with kids playing the positions in the movie I think that is weird..

I have a cousin and when he was 5 he played T-ball and then at 6 he played pitch-by-coach (where the coach pitches to them... obviously) and in both of those they didn't keep score, they let everyone hit/until they hit, but they could get out...

So yeah, thought I think with Turner being 8 (I think that was his age) and being a pitcher they should have kept score...

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In T-ball, they don't keep score and most of the time kids aren't allowed to get out.

In coach pitch, kids do get out, but score keeping depends. Normally they keep score.

As soon as kids start to pitch, it is considered "real baseball" and they basically play by MLB rules, except for stealing bases and such.

Kid pitch and above have actual umpires.

If there is an umpire, they should be keeping score, and the movie has one.

I think it was done to exaggerate the situation, and I sincerely hope youth baseball games will become like this in a few years.

You can actually notice the umpire' stone of voice as he tells Artie they don't keep score. He thinks it is stupid, IMO, and is probably wondering why he is there in the first place.

An umpire's primary purpose is to call balls and strikes and call people out or safe. If nobody gets out, then what is the purpose of calling balls and strikes? This is why t-ball and coach pitch games do not have umpires present.

Games are like practice in real life. Kids need to learn that there are winners and losers in every aspect of life and that you need to fight for your dreams. Sports are practice for real life, because when you lose a game, it doesn't really matter, but in life, it means a whole lot more.

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Whoops, I sincerely hope baseball does NOT become like this in a few years.

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Oh yes, forgot to mention. In many little league organizations (ones I've heard of anyway) have a 5 run limit in all innings but the last. As soon as a team scores 5 runs the inning is over, regardless of how many outs have been gotten. Unless, of course, 3 outs are achieved before 5 runs are scored, in which case it is tallied normally.

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Yes there are. There are even articles from people about why they hate/like this and there are leagues with websites that say "This is league does not keep score". The ones who like it use the same excuse the parents in this movie do. That kids should just have fun, they have the rest of their life to keep score, it causes problems, ect.

I have never heard of it in any league older than junior high age and hope there are not any leagues at that age doing this. I don't even like that it's done with children Turner's age. T-ball (Barker's age) is ok.

However, something that happened during the baseball game that I do think is unrealistic would be the kid hitting Artie in his...spot and all anyone told him was "Use your words!". Realistically speaking he probably would have been thrown out of the game for that. You can't be a bully out on that field. Especially if it could seriously hurt somebody.

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Artie did deserve it though. It was wrong of the kid, but it was the right thing for Artie.

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If you think that constituted getting hit with a bat, I seriously question you're judgment when it comes to when people deserve to be hit. He wasn't pushing the kid, he wasn't grabbing the kid, he wasn't even threatening the kid. This constituted having him kicked off the field away from the game, but not a hit with the bat.

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As I said, it was wrong of the kid to do so because he did not physically assault the kid.

However, he deserved to be taught a lesson that his values do not come above societal norms. He apparently thinks that he can get away with such gross misbehaviour and that his family should tolerate such misbehaviour. That is wrong. The proper punishment is social sanctions by his family, but in the absence of that, I will settle for him getting hit in the balls.

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I remember reading about this in a magazine 10 or so years ago. In it, an article talked about how disgruntled parents took, I think, their soccer coach to court because his team kept losing. To combat the overenthusiastic parents, some leagues started adopting a no score approach to children's sports. Fans say it builds up self esteem and encourages non-athletic kids to participate. Meanwhile, detractors say competition builds character and teamwork.

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