Oucho! Spike Lee, historical revisionist.
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You don't give us any information apart from the images, which seems quite trollish. How do I know those weren't created by the Nazis? Propaganda is usually written in the language of the people it is aimed at, so the fact that they are in Italian in no way proves that that is how the Italians viewed them.
Also ; in what way does this propaganda make the film 'revisionist'?
You don't give us any information apart from the images, which seems quite trollish. How do I know those weren't created by the Nazis? Propaganda is usually written in the language of the people it is aimed at, so the fact that they are in Italian in no way proves that that is how the Italians viewed them.
Also ; in what way does this propaganda make the film 'revisionist'?
The original threadder is so dumb, he/she/it did not even realize that the same propaganda pictures created by the Hitler and Mussolini fascists were used in the movie.
sharewe viewed americans as normal soldiers and we were happy the war was over...
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Spike put all those three posters in the movie, i wonder why he didnt put the fourth one. The one where a black soldier is raping an italian woman.
shareThe BBC ran an article on the 65th anniversary of D-day. The article included some unpleasant details about mass rapes of French women and widespread looting of French homes by American GIs:
“Of 29 soldiers executed for rape by the US military authorities, 25 were black.” - BBC.
In Italy several black GIs were also executed for rape and murder. One rapist was the father of Emmett Till. He raped multiple Italian women and murdered one of them.
Should I continue? Of course I'm sure there were rapes commited by all the armies of WW2 but blacks seemed to be the most out of control. The reason I post these is to add some balance to the racist Spike Lee's attempt at immortalizing black soldiers as heroes presenting what any serious historian is calling revisionist.
balance my ass. right, they were the most out of control, compared to the oh so polite red army on its way to berlin, or before that, the ss einsatzgruppen hanging out in the pripet marshes...
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I'm sorry, but you're a racist. White, Nazi prisoners were treated better than blacks, blacks soldiers were sent into the meat grinder to die because the US military didn't want to "waste" white men. Do you honestly think less than thirty G.I.s raped women over there? Do you really think that 25 of them were black? I guarantee you, the only reason they were "tried" and executed is because they were black.
shareblacks soldiers were sent into the meat grinder to die because the US military didn't want to "waste" white men.
During World War II 1.2 million African Americans served in the Armed Forces and 708 were killed in combat.
As the services became integrated:
In Korea about 10% of our soldiers were black & approx. that same percentage of the 54,000 U.S. servicemen killed were black. In Vietnam, the percentage killed was about the same as the total percentage of blacks, about 12% of the 58,000 deaths.
LOL, hardly, the US military sent white men in while they had the blacks do shipping and cargo transport because they thought they were too inept for actual combat.
Turns out from all the rapes that were reported, they were partially right.
Hey greymann,
Your motivation for posting is all too apparent.
'Of 29 soldiers executed for rape by the US military authorities, 25 were black.” - BBC.'
There are two ways of viewing this statement; one being that it is indicative of the American army's attitude to black soldiers at that time that the majority of those charged and prosecuted were black, rather than the figure showing, as you would have us believe, a natural propensity for black men to commit rape. Perhaps you could give us a citation on this statement so that we can all look into it. Failing that you could do us all a favour and just ---- off and die, you bigot.
I think he just has to quote the current day rape statistics in USA to sort of put you on defense here. How about we also take a closer look at South Africa, the rape capital of the world? You want to claim the US army is somehow also involved there as well maybe, falsely accusing innocent black men? You got some proof for that or you want to try to turn that around as well?
Going back to WWII: one citizen of Le Havre, France said in April 1945 about the American "liberators": "We have no more soldiers here, just a few Negroes who terrorize the neighborhood". Of course there must be 2 ways to look at that as well, right? It turns out he was a racist and he was terrorizing the poor black American soldiers who minded their own business and sold flowers on street corners.
How about those Algerian troops who raped more than 1800 women in Stuttgart in 1945?
"For fifty hours will can do whatever you want" on May 25 1944 said the French general Alfonse Juin to his Moroccan troops, the so-called Goumierses, "liberators", so they subjected Ciociaria to 50 hours of murder, rape and looting. Two thousand women were raped by these Allied liberators. There is a movie about this event featuring Sofìa Loren. Why don't you watch that movie and wonder what those guys looked like? Any idea?
All that being said, what the Allies did pales next to what the Soviets did in Germany and other occupied countries. 2 million raped women, murder and looting on a mass scale.
You're taking that quote from that BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8084210.stm) out of context.
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According to American historian J Robert Lilly, there were around 3,500 rapes by American servicemen in France between June 1944 and the end of the war.
"The evidence shows that sexual violence against women in liberated France was common," writes Mr Hitchcock. "It also shows that black soldiers convicted of such awful acts received very severe punishments, while white soldiers received lighter sentences."
Of 29 soldiers executed for rape by the US military authorities, 25 were black - though African-Americans did not represent nearly so high a proportion of convictions.
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@greymannn
I'm not buying it at all, because the military was so racist against the black soldiers back then, those rape charges could have been easily trumped up by anyone.
What you mean to say is that they were the majority of the ones brought to justice. I wonder why that might be?
share@IfOnlyItWereTrue
I said exactly what I meant to say. The reality back in those times was that black people in general were more likely to be tried and convicted for crimes they hadn't committed simply BECAUSE they were black. In other words, a white person could accuse a black person of doing anything without virtually any proof and have them convicted, which was also the case here in America until recently. So,in that context,just because 25 black soldiers were tried dosen't necessarily mean that ALL of them were guilty,or that they were even proven guilty beyond a doubt. Where's the evidence that they were? Since the military hated black soldiers anyway, I'm sure they viewed (and probably piled on) the charges as a good reason to get rid of some of them, which is pretty *beep* but that's how it was back then. I'm not saying that none of the black soldiers could not have committed some of those crimes--the fact is that there were far more likely to be more severely punished than the white soldiers for the same crimes,which was racist as hell in itself.
I also don't like how some of these posts are trying to paint the black soldiers that fought over there as if all they did was commit crimes---now that IS some racist bull**** right there,plain and simple.
A typical black argument of "MUH RACE". Get over yourself dumbass, you can't simply throw the race-card where ever you want on the net during any time frame.
How were black soldiers "treated unfairly" in the US military during World War 2? Were they whipped and beaten mercilessly for failing to meet quota's? Were they shot on site for messing up orders? Were they tied to the fronts of vehicles to be used for battering rams?
Quit pulling *beep* out of your ass and provide some actual, detailed, historical accounts of these so called "horrible conditions under which blacks had to put up with" which were so inhumane and criminal, that it somehow excuses the fact that they were the caught in the act raping women more often.
I bet you also have some cockamamie way of disproving how, during US occupation of Japan and the Pacific, the Japanese had high reports of African American's raping women and children? I would say "lol", but it's not even funny. You can look at modern crime statistics of blacks vs whites in both the US AND Britain, and they're actually somewhat close to each-other in terms of percentage and ratio's.
@bud
You're just a fcking racist, and everything you said was bull****. I don't see any proof you're provided to back up your racist bull**** either. It's well know that black soldiers were discriminated against and treated like s*** in the armed forced during World War II. That's part of American history. Look it up yourself---I'm not gonna waste my time doing the work for you.
If you want to talk about rape, why not mention the Japanese? The Rape and Massacre of Nakang where hundreds of thousands of Chinese women raped and murdered. The Japanese government even took their own Japanese women to please the soldiers. Christian Bale in Flowers of War was the story of Nakang. Good movie, but very sad.
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I am italian. We still now celebrate the 25th of April as the Liberation Day, when Allies and Partisans ended the war.
Those manifests are clearly Nazi propaganda. You should know that Italy for 2 years, between 1943 and 1945 has been under Civil War, because most of the people, with the help of Allies, has finally found the strength to riots to the Mussolini's regime.
American's were cheered as liberators, though some diffidence may have shown in the first contact (they were anyway an army of a foreign country, and some rapes and robbery are witnessed).
Wow, people sure do start some dumbass threads on Spike Lee message boards.
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