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Am I the only fool who has alwasy thought that ice floats?


Or are there others like me?

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No, everyone does except the geniuses that made this movie.

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It was ice AND metal from the base. Try putting a screw in an ice cube and seeing if it floats.

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Only 10% of an iceberg is above water but if it had something relatively big and heavy(eg a car) it would probably sink

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Am I the only one who noticed the enormous metal structure attached to, and WEIGHING DOWN the ice?

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I did two, but maybe there's some people who don't pay attention to details like this one.

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Am I the only one who noticed the enormous metal structure attached to, and WEIGHING DOWN the ice? >>> No, you're the apologist who ignores the fact that the base was built beneath an iceberg and that the iceberg was brought down on top of them.

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I'm pretty sure they explicitly showed or referred to metal tubes running through the ice pack.

Regardless, it's not as if sinking ice isn't an unheard of trope.

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No, you're not!

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If it was waying down the ice so much, why did it stay afloat until they destructed the base? One would think that such a heavy metal base would crack the ice... Especially when it gets a lot thinner during summer (most of the northern icecap melts during summers nowadays). Great idea by the way, attaching a base to a floating ice cap instead of anchoring it in the sea bottom below...
And why did every piece of ice in that scene sink? Surely not every chunk was infused with metal...?

To me this was one of the most ridiculous looking things I've ever seen in a movie. The entire movie was pretty laughable, but the shot of the sinking ice took the cake. I know this is supposed to be Sci-Fi, but not even respecting one of the most basic laws of physics like this... Ridiculous...

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Ice that is made from what's called 'heavy' water (it's radioactive) does sink in ordinary water. Obviously, that's not what we're dealing with in the movie, but as several people have already pointed out, MOST of an iceberg is BELOW the water's surface. If things operated exactly as popular opinion would have them operate as, then 100% of an iceberg would be floating on top of the water's surface.
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Heavy water ice does sink in regular water, but it is not found in significant quantities in the ocean, nor would it ever form into ice sheets on the surface of the ocean since it would never be drawn together there to freeze.

Heavy Water is NOT radioactive, it only gets its small amount of radiation from the way we make it - if we dont make it the cheap and nasty way its perfectly clean. A Man put half a cup of heavy water into a water cooler once to hurt his co-workers, and nobody got sick at all. Its got only a little more radiation than normal water.

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Yes the movie made no sense to begin with. I know some of the ice had metal in it, but most of it didn't.

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Discussing how realistic something is in a fictional movie, based of toys.
With that in mind, they could turn everything upside down, and I wouldn't care. If you want realism go see a documentary. This is for people who want fiction.

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Lots of other errors/nonsense in the movie too:
- Indestructible cobras that can survive grenade blasts and rifle and machine gun rounds but die with a single slice from a katana
- No rad-shielding and emissions monitoring in the Joes' top secret bunker? Even if such a small container could contain a powerful enough transmitter to go through all of that earth and steel, it should have been simple to verify if its transmitter was actually off or not.
- Cobra self-destructs a neo-viper using embedded nanites while he's completely surrounded by joes. The neo-viper is literally eaten from the inside out, but then the nanites just shut off instead of eating away at the joes?
- Why the hell do you even need a rocket to deliver the nanites? You could literally just drop off a briefcase full of them anywhere or even ship it as a parcel and then activate it remotely. It can consume entire cities and Cobra has plenty of suicidal cobra troopers who could deliver them.
- Why isn't the Cobra base just rigged to deliver nanites via the ventilation system?
- The Cobra base has the worst pressure sensors in the world. This is a universe where you can randomly jam two knitting needles into a dead person's skull and replay what they saw on an LCD screen. It's a universe where nanites can make Zartan look just like the President. It's a universe where there are handheld laser handguns and shockwave cannons. But Cobra uses floor pressure sensors that are apparently completely inactive as long as you don't touch the little circular disks at the corners of each tile.
- Voice-activated firing control, really? Just watching Ripcord actually using it to fire at the missile shows how painfully slow such a system is compared to a simple trigger button.
- Machine guns for underwater combat? A .50 BMG becomes non-lethal after 14 inches of water (even reasonably long hydrodynamic spearguns only have a penetrating range of at most 35 feet, and that's against soft-tissued targets).

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