Angry Driving Instructor
What was his damage???
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Agreed. I have the opposite kind of personality to Scott's and I'm sure I'd have throttled Poppy had I been her driving instructor...
In less life-threatening circumstances she's somebody people in general would be drawn to: she can lift any mood only by the sheer force of her cheerful personality. Any social worker would be charmed by Poppy. Even a homeless man with a few marbles missing takes good notice of her. Yet people like her should best stay off the roads!
So it's kind of curious that Scott - of all people - would be drawn to her in spite of her flighty attitude to the conventions of road safety. Then again, Scott's marbles did seem to be scattered, didn't they?
I'd have throttled Poppy had I been her driving instructor
I hope you guys are just kidding! While Scott didn't literally throttle her, he grabbed her head, yanked her hair and basically tried to break her neck. Who knows what he would've done had she not broken free & screamed in the street. No matter how annoying you may find someone's bubbly personality, physical violence is pretty pathetic, especially if you're a 200 lb man beating on a woman half your size. share
Yeah, we're just kidding, we're not LITERALLY going to throttle her. Nobody condoned what Scott did, if you read the posts in complete. But thanks for the lesson in morality anyway.
That's not quite the point though. It's not merely about being annoyed, it's about persons (no matter how bubbly & lovable they are) who don't take ROAD SAFETY seriously, being responsible for DEATHS on the road. I hope, in your righteous stance on physical violence, that that would concern you as well.
Again, don't worry, I don't beat on anybody. People who know me, would find that idea rather funny.
Sensing a little defensiveness & sarcasm there. Let me clarify. In your post to which I responded, there was absolutely nothing specific about "ROAD SAFETY" and "DEATHS ON THE ROAD" (your entire post quoted below). Instead you dwelled on her personality, somehow making the bizarre non sequitur that cheerful, easygoing people should stay off the road, implying that constipated Nazis like Scott are preferred. Did Poppy ever run a red light (as Scott did)? Cross into oncoming traffic (as Scott did)? Disobey the speed limit (as Scott did)? Or are you making judgements based on personality?
Agreed. I have the opposite kind of personality to Scott's and I'm sure I'd have throttled Poppy had I been her driving instructor...
In less life-threatening circumstances she's somebody people in general would be drawn to: she can lift any mood only by the sheer force of her cheerful personality. Any social worker would be charmed by Poppy. Even a homeless man with a few marbles missing takes good notice of her. Yet people like her should best stay off the roads!
So it's kind of curious that Scott - of all people - would be drawn to her in spite of her flighty attitude to the conventions of road safety. Then again, Scott's marbles did seem to be scattered, didn't they?
So I'm not sure how you're suddenly trying to justify what you said about how you would throttle her. If it was just a joke, fine, leave it at that. But cut the lecture on moralizing and righteousness, shall we? Unless you truly feel it's cool for a 200 lb man to beat on a woman half his size--and anyone who disagrees is "righteous"? share
Oh for chrissakes. Have it your way.
sharejacowium's post is clear and perceptive, and I would have thought that it would be difficult to misinterpret.
Instead you dwelled on her personality, somehow making the bizarre non sequitur that cheerful, easygoing people should stay off the road, implying that constipated Nazis like Scott are preferred.Talk about bizarre non sequiturs. Nothing is being implied about Scott, and I do not understand how rooprect could have imagined that anything was.
The objection to Poppy behind the wheel is not that she is cheerful and easy-going; it is that she refuses to take the business of driving a car seriously. Poppy driving is scary. I would not want to cross the street, or be on a bicycle, anywhere near her.
Five minutes on Google would tell Poppy that she should not be wearing high heeled boots, but she does not take the entire business seriously enough to find out that Scott is right.
To "throttle" someone is a common idiom and not meant to be taken literally. I can't imagine that it is misunderstood very often.
Anyone interested in assessing rooprect's understanding of Happy-Go-Lucky might be interested to look at his first post to the thread What Scott may be right about. in which he writes
Think of it: [Scott] says kids should express themselves...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1045670/board/flat/174383372 share
In another thread, someone wrote
I too wanted to throw [Poppy] into a wood chipper by the end of the second scene.and I just wanted to reassure rooprect, in case he runs across the quote, that I am really quite sure it was not meant to be taken literally. share
ppllkk, all your imdb posts since December have been at me, toward me, or about me.
Quit stalking me, you pathetic obsessed loser.
Thanks ppllkk - I fear for the wood chipper commenter!
Ah, the unforgivable sin of using common idioms... next time I'll add a little disclaimer saying posts must be read as a whole and that certain expressions should not be taken literally, before the judgemental likes of rooprect declare that I'm an oaf who supports the physical abuse of women...*rolls eyes*. The guy/girl has no clue that he/she is in all probability more likely to resort to beating on anyone than I am, but let him/her live with his/her own delusions. Hence my curt response the other day: certain bun-fights are just not worth the time it consumes.
Cheers!
jacowium, answer if you can:
Why are you so angrily offended by my comment that 200-lb men should not beat on small women?
On my block list you go.
sharejacowium, answer if you can:Below is the original version of this post by rooprect. Since the original post refers to me, and rooprect is accusing me of stalking him, I believe it should be preserved.
Why are you so angrily offended by my comment that 200-lb men should not beat on small women?
jacowium, are you a sock puppett of ppllkk? Because I have trouble seeing how anyone in their right mind would be so angrily offended by my comment that 200-lb men should not beat on small women, as you and that nutcase are. But I guess both of you are the ones defending Scott, so... stick together, eh?share
ppllkk, I'm honoured that I'm the most important thing in your pitiful life, but you're annoying people. All of your 20-some posts in the last 6 weeks are about me. Why don't you just get a latex doll & write my name on it, weirdo.
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Yeah she wasn't a good driver, but it was her first time. She was going out of her way to screw with Scott because he was such a tightass. I probably would have done the same, the guy was obnoxious from the moment he met her, before she even stepped in the car.
http://www.youtube.com/anotherschmoe
She was going out of her way to screw with Scott because he was such a tightass.Poppy reacts to Scott like a small child who is going to do the opposite of what her parents want even when her parents are right. I suspect Poppy and her siblings had miserable parents, and if that is correct, I understand where Poppy is coming from.
Zoe guesses that Poppy is winding Scott up.
So, I agree with you that Poppy may calm down and take driving seriously when she is away from Scott. We, however, just don't know, and I don't have much confidence that I can predict Poppy's behavior.
I am struck by the fact that Poppy's best friend and roommate, Zoe, refuses to teach her how to drive. I suspect that Zoe has a good idea of how it would go even with her as the driving instructor.
(Poppy also behaves like a small child in the bookstore. She is like a child who cannot get her mother's attention, and so she keeps it up and keeps it up and keeps it up.) share
Wait a minute... You can't turn all of the blame onto Poppy, unless you just have no social graces whatsoever. She is the paying customer of Scott and the guy in the bookstore, and before she has a chance to do anything to get on their nerves, they are total pricks to her. Right from "Hello" the guy in the bookstore just glares at her and ignores her, being a total ass. Scott doesn't ignore her completely but from the moment he meets her he's being an obnoxious pig. They're the ones acting like children. I could understand that sort of behavior from strangers in the park (even then it would be rude, but less unexpected) but to behave that way to a paying customer is just ignorant, immature, and unprofessional.
http://www.youtube.com/anotherschmoe
Bizarre. I thought I was agreeing with you.
You can't turn all of the blame onto Poppy...Nothing in my post defends either Scott or the bookstore clerk. For the record, I think all three of them act like children.
Neither Scott nor the bookstore clerk interests me. Why Poppy acts the way that she does interests me, and I was talking about that. In particular, I was following up on your thought and wondering if Poppy's refusal to take driving seriously was just a product of her interaction with Scott. share
I agree that Poppy was winding Scott up and it backfired. Maybe her cute optimism and trying to make others smile works a lot of the time, but with someone more troubled perhaps it is better to leave well alone...or at least tone it down some, do it in a more sincere way and not an antagonistic teasing way. She was out of her league there. And when at the end he said he felt like she was always talking down to him and patronizing him -- I agreed! She was! The time when she lifted her hands off the wheel as a joke would have really pissed me off too...he should have stuck to his guns and refused to see her again as a student.
Now, no, we can't totally blame her. He was a creeper too that misread into everything she did.
But, overall, I think she WAS poking fun and trying to rile him up, probably underestimating how deeply troubled he was.
He was beat as a child by an adult, similar to that of the boy in school. Alternatively he was the little boy getting beat up by another pupil at school. (or both)
Poppy even asks were you bullied at school, and he doesnt respond which says a lot.