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Seriously guys, the ending is not hard to understand.





Geez. When the woman gave her a choice to either kill her father and live as herself, or accept the fact that she is damned forever, she tried to kill herself so she wouldn't live at all and her father could live. However, before she Stabbed herself, it was already midnight. Notcie how she stabbed herself twice? That's because she didn't die the first time, so she tried again. Then the end her father was pu into the same mental hospital her mom was in because Molly was a demon and told the cops her father was the one who comitted the murders.
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THANK YOU!! There are way TOO many same thread posts about the ending. I personally got it right away, but hey everyone is different right? Anyway I am bumping your post and hopefully shutting up any other posts about this dang topic!


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Sorry streeply... I don't buy it. The ending shows Molly for who she REALLY is, a valedictorian. And those people are wicked. We should have known the whole time by the way she can snap an arm in two that she was a evil valedictorian and at the stroke of midnight she was going to be the head of her graduating class, how could we not see that comming?

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I hate to burst your bubble, but it's not that everyone else is too stupid to get what your keen intuitiveness picked up; it's that the ending was SO LAME that everyone with any taste for a well written story was so bemused by the lack of tact and talent in the ending that their brains were frantically searching for some minuet detail or hidden message they missed, so they could justify the last two hours of their lives.

I just finished watching the movie and I can honestly say that had to be the single lamest and poorly written ending I've ever encountered... and I once watched midget bears defeat a moon size battle station.

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Excuse me, but I never said people were stupid. People were looking too deep into it, it wasn't that hard to get. And no Stickman, at the end of her graduation, the guidance counselor and her bf were all smiles and made passes and hints to the fact that she was now one of them. I really don't have prove my point here. If you think the ending is something different great, then why are you reading this? This was clearly for those who didn't understad the ending, clearly you do right?

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Its hard to pick up on sarcasm when posting sh$t on the internet but yeah, I was being sarcastic in my explanation of the ending. However, the ending was total crap no matter how you look at it.

The funny thing is, this film could have been really good if they would've changed the ending and perhaps make it look like people with schizophrenia actually live out a REAL horror story of their own, that would have made the film very intriguing, or how about making Molly some type of sacrificial lamb for some sick satanic cult that her parents agreed to when she was born etc...etc.. anything would have been better than what we got.

Instead we get some lame ending that doesn't explain anything we just sat through for the last hour and half or so. This film just sucks in every way posible.

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I hate to burst your bubble, but it's not that everyone else is too stupid to get what your keen intuitiveness picked up; it's that the ending was SO LAME that everyone with any taste for a well written story was so bemused by the lack of tact and talent in the ending that their brains were frantically searching for some minuet detail or hidden message they missed, so they could justify the last two hours of their lives.

I just finished watching the movie and I can honestly say that had to be the single lamest and poorly written ending I've ever encountered... and I once watched midget bears defeat a moon size battle station.

Nenx, I could not have said it better myself

The funny thing is, this film could have been really good if they would've changed the ending and perhaps make it look like people with schizophrenia actually live out a REAL horror story of their own

Stickman, I think you are onto something, this would have made a better ending. Maybe you should write a movie. While the murders were happening I kept thinking, why doesnt she just kill herself now, I mean killing the church girl, her mother, and attempting to kill her father, those peoples lives are worth more than hers.

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Maybe you should write a movie.


Thanks!

I have thought about making movies before but I've never been to film school or anything like that. Perhaps I could just buy a cheap video camera and shoot a few home movies, you know, you got to start somewhere.

Actually, I suppose thats all you really need is a camera and a few actors. Basically, all low budget films are shot with just a camera and actors.

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You should at least look into script writing. You are a good candidate.

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You should at least look into script writing. You are a good candidate.


Thanks again... I take it you've read some of my other thoughts on movies? Script writing might actually be something I could do. I will look into it.

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Stickman, I have added you onto my friends list.

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I disagree. I think she was supposed to try to kill her father in order to free herself. It's not about 12 o'clock.

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MJ PYT - LOL @ YOU!

Loved your write up and sarcasm....however, most folks, on these boards, would have no clue how to understand what you meant! LMAO

Hey, I loved the school girl outfit though!

Isn't it funny how these young actors/actresses make bad choices? Haley had so much momentum going for her....but she ended up in purgatory "horror film"...seems like the kiss of death and a quick pay check when you do a horror film as your first break through film.......so sad too - I really hoped Haley would turn into something big. Don't think she can, but I hope she will get another shot - maybe a drama or comedy, but damn, don't do horror films right away - you need to build your foundation on talent, not quick paychecks.

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Replying six years later to reassure you that Haley is now doing quite well. She has two big-budget movies on the way, you don't have to worry about her.

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i agree with Stickman38

The ending was easy to understand, but id did NOT explain ANYTHING that happened in the entire movie, really. I thought we were gonna see some sort of manifestation of her powers or something and she'd kill her father and some other ppl...SOMETHING like that! But NOTHING! It was awful and totally unresolved.

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The ending was easy to understand, but id did NOT explain ANYTHING that happened in the entire movie, really. I thought we were gonna see some sort of manifestation of her powers or something and she'd kill her father and some other ppl...SOMETHING like that! But NOTHING! It was awful and totally unresolved.
Here's a good example. How is this person not too stupid to get the ending?


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If you want a bad ending you should watch the Shortcut, which ironically also stars Shannon Woodward

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@nenxr0:

Bravo. I couldn't agree more.

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I agree..the ending was one of the worst endings in a movie i have ever witnessed..everyone in the theatre was booing and i heard ppl yelling "WTF was that *beep* people in the theatre understood wat happened..it was just the fact that it sucked so bad that had people confused about how they could have wasted money and their time watching this crap...i guess that's y u never go watch a movie opening day >.<

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I interpreted the ending a little differently... When Molly stabbed herself she was in effect committing suicide. Suicide in the eyes of some Christian religions is a mortal sin and will send you straight to hell. So she went straight to hell, which in this case, was to go straight to work for the devil or devils lackey ie the counselor. Hence, she sacrificed herself to the devil to save her Father. But as a servant to the devil she ended up sending her Father to a mental institution.

Anyway, that's just my interpretation, because I didn't see any hints to reveal that the clock had passed midnight. However, the fact that the teacher had mentioned earlier in the movie that you need to understand the Bible to be able to interpret English literature was a pretty big hint, that you also need that knowledge of the Bible to understand the movie.

I guess that’s the beauty of movie-making – keep the audience guessing!

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hannah, you are right you do have to understand the Bible to understand the religious undertones, however you neglected a key point in the events of the film, suicide is a sin, which would have sent her straight to hell yes but she had also killed her mother, and the church girl, and attempted to kill her father, all are also sins that would have sent her straight to hell, in other words nothing would save her now. That church girl was trying to save her while there was still time but she refused. She would have been better off had she gone to a Catholic church than a Born Again church, the theology is different, and maybe a priest would have been able to invoke the power of Christ. But I dont believe the Baptism counted for anything, the girl wasnt a priest or a minister.

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These are some good thoughts @MichaelJacksonsPYT. Molly killed two people. Of course, they were trying to kill her so I'm not sure where self-defense falls on the sin continuum.

I think it was the basic evil triumphs over good or evil is greater than good. Molly was valedictorian because of her great power.

Not to be ridiculous, but I believe the Bible says call upon the Lord and you shall be saved. I thought Molly had indeed called upon God so ... meh. It was very loose interpretation of the gospel at best, but sufficient for the plot of the movie, I guess.

BTW, I don't necessarily believe only a priest can baptize. Besides it isn't about the one doing the baptizing but the belief of the one being baptized, I think.

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yeah..those murders were self defense and she didn't even mean for them to happen. did you see how freaked out she was by both her mother's and the church girl's deaths?

molly definitely became valedictorian because of her powers, although she could have done it on her own...given the fact that they said she had a 4.0 at her old school...

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I see a lot of posts where people nail a portion of it, but then add something contrived and bogus. It's really not hard to understand what we saw on the screen (which, sadly, doesn't alter the fact that it all really blew).

1. Mystery lady appears and offers Mom & Dad a deal. Most likely it was Mom that said, "Yes!" while Dad just mumbled something like "sure, whatever." Either way, the baby is revived, Mom puts it out of her head for awhile, and dad ignores it, merely happy his kid's alive.

2. Mom tries to "save" her daughter by killing her as she nears 18, and fails.

3. Dad & Molly move away and try to get on with their lives.

4. A bad script allows them to relocate right smack into the middle of a bunch of the devil worshiping idiots who just happen to be "waiting" for her.

5. Molly fills-in most of the movie by acting like a teenage girl in teenage situations. One can only assume this is to lull the audience into a false sense of security so the "big reveal" will mean something. (Fair warning: It doesn't) Insert the occasional "spooky" aspect here and there to remind the audience that the title had the word "haunting" in it. (This, too, will make little sense by the end.)

6. Cut to obligatory "scared protagonist runs around frantically, being betrayed by people the story has established as friendly and/or trustworthy" montage.

7. Poirot, er, I mean, the "evil lady" gathers everyone together in one spot so she can pompously explain everything.

8. Molly, who clearly has been born into a world with a sadistic, contradictory cosmology bearing little resemblance to our own, attempts to use her teenage brain to come up with a solution. She's told she has no "free will" (ironically the one person who believed she did, and had faith, opted to try and kill her as well, proving she herself had no faith in her own beliefs. This is common in modern movies that enjoy making Christians look like idiots because it's apparently the "cool" thing to do). So, not falling for the trick of killing her father (an act that would indeed have been evil and selfish, despite the father's pleas to the contrary), she attempts to sacrifice herself to save her father and prove she's not evil. Sadly, she waited a few seconds too long (which is perhaps what the woman wanted her to do, and may be an additional reason for giving her the dilemma of killing daddy), so her powers, now "active" by the fulfillment of her turning 18 at the arbitrary stroke of midnight, keep her from dying from the blade.

Note that, unless she was actually born at midnight, Satan's clock is a little bit stupid. Apparently it's all about the dates, not the actual time of birth. Those kooky cultists.

9. For dramatic effect, and to avoid the audience laughing too hard at actions and dialogue that would make no sense at all, we skip any further activity with the cultists and Molly, and jump straight to the villainous aftermath. Had we remained in the room, we would have seen Molly take the next step, which would likely have been a sudden realization that A) she's got her as-yet not-described powers now (she's stronger than normal and can't be killed, but that's all we know at this point), B) she's holding a big, nasty knife, C) she's surrounded by evil jerks that have made her life a living hell and destroyed her family, and D) they're still restraining her father. Now, I don't know about you, but it's my assumption that if I ever kicked a dog repeatedly in the ribs that it's not going to crawl over and start licking my face as if I were its dearest friend. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it would either run away whimpering, or turn on me and try to eat my face. The most likely scenario to my mind involves Molly laughing maniacally as she shows them all the meaning of "supernatural teen angst," which is to say, she'd zap, nuke, slice, kick, and punch them all into a vast purple puddle, then carry Dad home and give him some soup.

But no, we're expected to believe that either there is no actual free will in this movie's universe and she truly has been "taken over" against hers, or that she's the dumbest teen girl ever born (and here they'd told us she was "special") and simply believed what she was told, and somehow began acting on the belief, ignoring her own nature. Yep. Shakespeare it's not.

Oh, and regarding the idea that she's possessed. Let's keep a little tidbit in mind, shall we?

This movie's "world" clearly has demons and assorted evil stuff, straight from Satan's armpit. Ok, so we know they went looking for "special" children like Molly, who would someday have "powers" of some sort. There are lots of people in the world that could be possessed, so clearly Molly wasn't just taken over by a demon. They needed a "deal" and a gullible target that would grow up to believe in it. She's still her, just evil now. Why she went over to the dark side, of course, is baffling (my polite way of saying "really frickin' stupid").

Anywho, we now see Dad in the nuthouse, and Molly acting like a junior Stepford Wife, basking in the glow of evil and all the bliss it brings to teens, and, just to make the audience really scared, we briefly see a "Missing" flier blow past showing that her new BFF has vanished without a trace.

Ooooh, spooooky.


10. Jake Weber sues for all copies of this film to be burned.


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ROFLMAOCOPTER

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Well done, The-Kurgan. But, why in so many words? Did this film deserve so much attention from anyone? Or maybe you got too much time at hand? Whateva... Got only one word for this film - C R A P -

Constipated
Repulsive
Abominable
Preposterous

Oh, thats four words. o.O Whateva...

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Satan was NEVER mentioned in the film! Why are we assuming that these people are devil worshippers?

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Satan was NEVER mentioned in the film! Why are we assuming that these people are devil worshippers?


Seriously? That's what you're goin' with, eh?

Ok, I'll play along.

Saying that "Satan" wasn't mentioned in the film is about as valid as saying Deep Throat wasn't a porno because nobody ever actually said the word "sex" in it (there's a pretty good "it's not polite to talk with your mouth full" joke in there, but I'm above such things).

But maybe you're right, I honestly don't remember (bliss!). Perhaps they didn't utter the sinister Nom de Plume of he-who-created-rap-music-and-Lady-GaGa-and-thus-will-be-damned-for-all-time-even-though-he's-already-got-it-bad-for-having-such-a-small-burnt-sienna-colored-weewee. But if so, who else could they possibly be referring to as this supremely powerful master of evil that's an enemy of all that is cute, fuzzy, and holy? F. Lee Bailey?

Hmmmm. Ya may have me, there...


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Saying that "Satan" wasn't mentioned in the film is about as valid as saying Deep Throat wasn't a porno because nobody ever actually said the word "sex" in it (there's a pretty good "it's not polite to talk with your mouth full" joke in there, but I'm above such things).


That was the most inane analogy I have ever heard. THEY SHOWED SEX in Deep Throat! If we are going to stick with the parallels of your analogy where did we see devil worship in the Molly Hartley film? Hmm??

You are right though to make the ASSumption since the film was so unoriginal is so many ways they might as well gone with that lame ass story. WWWwwwWWWhhhHHEeeeeEEEeeeeeWWWWWwwwww!!!!!! The Devil is coming to get you Barbra!! WWWwwwWWWhhhHHEeeeeEEEeeeeeWWWWWwwwww!!!!!

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Satan IS mentioned, at the end Molly gets on her knees and prays to god, saying she renounces satan. I don't remember if anybody else says they're devil worshipers, but it appears Molly thinks they are.

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Best analysis here!

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...You're forgetting that she's the Anti-Christ and her become valedictorian is one more step to her going forward with a successful life and a career in politics.

..."It's not about money, it's about...sending a message." - Heath Ledger as 'The Joker'

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Oye.

She wasn't the freakin' antichrist. Kinda silly to have to go and recruit the spawn of Satan from a batch of potentially "special" kids when the real deal will be born and raised as such. Not to mention her mother looked nothing like a Jackal, if you buy that angle as fact, her father was clearly her actual father, and neither was our deluded heroine saddled with a wee-wee, which kinda blows that theory outta the water since the antichrist is clearly stated to be male.

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Much ado about nothing. I mean, really, how old are you guys? A 10-year-old would get it first time around, so much heart has been put into this film! BTW this is the kind a film you usually forget all about the next day when you wake up and have some delicious cereals. As for me, I fought tooth and nail to stay awake through the best part of the film. Honest! BAN IT!

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So... it takes Satan worship to be a valedictorian? Didn't they mention in the beginning of the film that Molly had a 4.0 at her last school... before she miraculously gained her "powers?" Also, if I was trying to buy time for a few minutes, I wouldn't give someone a knife. Restraining her just a bit would work just as effectively.

Pervert!

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