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Educational value of this film, or lack thereof.

posted 16 years ago by AniSays
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Will everyone please, please stop attesting to how "scientifically accurate" and "educational" this film is. Would you please clarify exactly what you mean by this? What important lesson have you learnt from this cinematic catastrophe?

What kind of neurodegenerative disorder does this woman have exactly? Alzheimer's? She's a scientific anomaly if she managed to develop late-onset Alzheimer's at the age of 28! That's absolutely incredible! In addition to all of this, it seems as though she has the most progressive case of Alzheimer's the world has ever seen. She goes from remembering a few things, to remembering nothing, to remembering stuff whenever she damn well feels like it.

If you want to learn Alzheimer's, maybe try reading a book for a change instead of watching one of the two hundred unoriginal, useless films mass-produced by Bollywood this year. This isn't a way to get good information - they have libraries for that, you idiots.

[–] avenyngirl 16 years ago

Agreed. This movie sucks...kind of like every other Bollywood movie ever made.

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[–] kahuja25 16 years ago

Hello.. If you maybe used your brain and did some research on this maybe this will help you learn a bit about Alzheimer's disease.

Early stage and young onset
Early-stage is the early part of Alzheimer’s disease when problems with memory, thinking and concentration may begin to appear in a doctor’s interview or medical tests. Individuals in the early-stage typically need minimal assistance with simple daily routines. At the time of a diagnosis, an individual is not necessarily in the early stage of the disease; he or she may have progressed beyond the early stage.

The term young-onset refers to Alzheimer's that occurs in a person under age 65. Young-onset individuals may be employed or have children still living at home. Issues facing families include ensuring financial security, obtaining benefits and helping children cope with the disease. People who have young-onset dementia may be in any stage of dementia – early, middle or late. Experts estimate that some 500,000 people in their 30s, 40s and 50s have Alzheimer's disease or a related dementia.

So as you can see, it can happen at an early age. It may not be the same as someone in their 60s, but each person is going to react to it differently. So rather than accuse directors for not doing their job right, maybe you should go and do your research as well before posting your nonsense..

[–] AniSays 16 years ago

To begin with, I AM a neuroscientist and I research and report the information you find on websites like the one you blatantly PLAGIARIZED - which is the "What is Alzheimer's?" section of alz.org. I find your audacity alarming - but I'm sure after watching as many Bollywood films as you have - shamelessly copying someone else's original words and concepts doesn't seem to bother you. You should have cited your information, you idiot. You can't come up with any of that information on your own, because you're simply not a knowledgeable person. Next time you decide to "google" Alzheimer's, maybe consider doing a bit of actual reading in the scientific literature. Maybe you're not literate enough to understand that - my apologies for assuming some sort of actual intelligence!

So let me teach you a lesson: early-onset Alzheimer's is EXTREMELY rare. There's a genetic component that BEGINS to manifest itself typically in a person's late 40s. This woman is 28. This is a PROGESSIVE, neurodegenerative disease and there is NO evidence whatsoever for the fact that this type progresses any faster than late-onset Alzheimer's. Judging by the extraordinary length of most Bollywood films, I would have thought they would allow for that intrinsic component. I suppose all the mindless singing and dancing replaced any real scientific consideration here. Dementia doesn't occur that quickly either and isn't seen so quickly in early-onset individuals - but then again, acting slow comes naturally to Indian film actresses, doesn't it?

Here's my advice - quit watching the poorly produced Bollywood films that are created by an INDUSTRY that has a complete and callous disregard for any artistic components that go into cinematography, lighting, and most of all - screenwriting (which they choose to ignore entirely). It's intriguing to see Ajay Devgan literally running around with a camera on his shoulders and calling that artistic "filming". Perhaps you should watch real cinematic triumphs - Russian Ark, for example - for a lesson on what innovative camera work is all about. Or you could watch Satyajit Ray for a dismal reminder of how much we've strayed from our cinematic history and have started producing absolute rubbish like this. I find it laughable that you would even try to defend this NONSENSE.

Finally, and I should emphasize this again - plagiarism is wrong. You should maybe get your behind off the seat and into a library so that you can do some reading on your own about these things - and maybe even try your hand at an education someday.

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[–] trissexim 16 years ago

I agree with Anisays' point concerning Indian cinema. Coming from a background where, for the last 60 years my family has been financing movies in Bollywood, I sometimes wonder why they go on producing the kind of shameless, pornographic nonsense they call "cinema." Where are the masterpieces of directors like Bimal Roy, Guru Dutt, Hrishikesh Mukerjee, Asit Sen, Basu Chaterjee and countless others like them? On subjects concerning degenerative diseases, one only has to look towards movies like "Anand" or "Mili" or even the recent "BLACK" to figure out how much talent we still can churn out if we put our minds to it. After all hasn't there been buzz about Hollywood making a 'Munna Bhai' remake? Is it really necessary for us to bastardize the story of Jodha and Akbar? Diversity and depth of Indian culture, history and heritage offers innumerable original story ideas that will not only touch millions of Indian viewers all around the world, but make Hollywood look up to us. Come on, lets not kid ourselves, we all know there are only a handful of movies we as parents can actually sit and watch with our kids without having to explain to them why a Kareena Kapoor is half naked in a movies gyrating obscenely with Saif Ali Khan or why a Bipasha Basu is sitting, straddling John Abrahams on a beach. If this is what movie making has come down to, we are simply making ourselves objects of ridicule with magazines like Times and Newsweek reporting on how we all want to become white like the people who oppressed us for over 200 years.

[–] StefanieKrueger 16 years ago

Hi AniSays,

I don't wanna get into discussing the movie, but your post(s) left me wondering: If you really are a neuroscientist, shouldn't you be able to answer another's post a little more... well-behaved?
Calling someone an idiot doesn't make you sound very well-educated. The rest of what you're saying does sound more matured, though.

Anyhow, that was just me wondering.

Greetings, steffie

[–] nataldin2002 15 years ago

Hello StefanieKrueger

I'm glad someone else realized that too. But what you fail to realize is that one's profession doesn't make them any different when it comes to mannerisms. Yes, you'd like to believe a neuroscientist wouldn't be calling people idiots over for not being as knowledgeable in a field as he.she is, but well, the world isn't perfect.
And no, calling someone an idiot shouldn't and doesn't have anything to do with being well-educated.
I mean the OP's probably very educated but doesn't mean he/she won't be vulgar or rude.
dur.

cheers.

"She's not a whore, she's just the girl that does whorey things."

[–] StefanieKrueger 15 years ago

Hi nataldin2002,

thanks for replying.
I do realize that "one's profession doesn't make them any different when it comes to mannerisms", it's just that I'd hoped that people could at least try to be a little more polite. But, yeah, that's just me, being naive...

After all, I've been reading a lot on these boards here lately and found that 'being polite' apparently must be a foreign term or something.^^

I don't doubt the poster to be well educated and I know that sometimes we get angry and use words we shouldn't.
It'd just be nice if people thought thrice before posting them...

Well, that's me, hoping... ;o)

"It is what it is."

[–] Chrysanthepop 16 years ago

I totally agree with AniSays. It's funny how they showed her to develop Alzheimer's at an early age but at old age, her condition doesn't seem any different when the disease is known to be very progressive. 'Maine Gandhi Ko Hani Maara' deals with a similar issue and is a far superior film.

You're fired!!!

[–] HeadleyLamarr 16 years ago

@ani - before you run down the BW audience stop and think of one phenomenal thing. This piece of shyte generated by the Devgans was swept out of the theaters in a hurry. It had neither facts nor entertainment and failed in every way as a film. GO BW audience!

'A wed wose, how womantic'

[–] Chrysanthepop 16 years ago

Wasn't it average at BO?

You're fired!!!

[–] AppleSeedSy 16 years ago

I just hated this movie. Yes, films aren't always "accurate", by man, this piece of s**t pushed it way too much!