Luke came off as Gay.


Which I have read here a lot. And I agree he did, but I think it was just the way his grandmother raised him. Even though you never meet her character Luke references her often and she sounded...proper? So if thats all Luke really had to look up to and to mimic I believe that's why he came off the way he did. I swear at one point he was going to say something like that's not how a lady acts and whip out a small fan. But again I t was just how his grandmother raised him, his character is straight just Fem. Any other opinions?

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I had the exact same thoughts, he didn't go to school really and his own family didn't even get to know him, so it was just his grandparents and seems like his grandmother was the one who completely took care of him. He sounds like what his grandmother was and he's pretty much a sponge and sucks up whatever he hears, which isn't much and he doesn't really even watch T.V. He's clearly not gay and the movie shows that.

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I understand you and I do know someone who is but Luke is different because he probably didn't spend much time with anyone his own age, he's very smart and functional completely but he lacks a lot of social interaction. Yes people with autism do but not like that, seems like he picks up on things fairly quickly. He did say his grandmother too him out of school so there's no telling how earlier that was and his family didn't even know him really, so it seems like he basically just interacted with his grandparents. In today's world you would probably be an idiot to think like his family and those around him did, most people with autism are usually smarter. Luke just basically had social issues and can't really find a word for the thing that most suffer from, like being annoyed and distressed by things like noise and lots of people. I don't expect people to know everything about it but people should know they aren't mentally challenged and are pretty functional.

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That seems completely right, like we said. Of course autism plays in great role in how he is but even most people with autism go out among their peers, with him being sheltered like that, is why he's so proper. That what I like about his character, I like that they didn't make him come off as crazy or so dependent. There are people like Luke, sadly anyone with that personality gets labeled as gay, when they can just be metrosexual.It would be liked assuming Sheldon Cooper is gay, although Jim Parsons is openly gay. Well at least in the early parts of the show that would be reasonable but in the story of Luke, he's clearly attracted to women, not just because of what he's been told, the movie shows that over and over again, and its not a hidden message.

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Yea I saw Temple Grandin, she's a very successful professor, I read a little about her and seen her on T.V. for the premiere of her movie. She still has some issues but she manages, and lives a normal life. And if what I read is true she doesn't have relationships, as she said she just doesn't have that part to her. When your not dressing to impress anyone, you just wear whatever is comfortable I guess and very intellectual minds aren't always the best dressers. But like Luke's character and Temple, and generally anyone, you can always have misconceptions from appearance.

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I understand your points; however, I disagree. It seems like there are only two stereotypes for men - manly men (very macho) or effeminate (possibly to definitely gay). Men are not one-dimesional caricatures any more than women are and it's these silly media portrayals that assume the average viewer sees the world that way.

Luke was raised by his grandmother, so someone of the opposite gender and two generations removed. Anybody in that situation, with autism or not, will behave and think differently than someone reared by a parent or older sibling just because their frame of reference will be different. A child that comes to mind is the boy in "Little Man Tate." or the kids in "Signs." All of these children were different than their peer groups simply because their respective adult influences were not the traditional "mom, dad, kids" households.

Until we, as a society, stop trying to label and "box" people into this or that, Hollywood will continue to make this over-the-top characterizations of how/who people are. People just aren't that way in real life and stereotypes serve no function other than to broaden the divide between "us versus them."




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In a sense, we did meet the grandmother, through him. "We have to use our inside voice."

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Wow...ok So I guess JoDwightFry and mjd_subs2 did not read what I wrote! First of all I said he came off gay. Not that he was gay! Second it's a movie, portrayed by an actor...not an actual person with autism so therefore it would be fair to say maybe the character is a little exaggerated in his functionality in the autism spectrum!? That being said, yes I have met people with autism JoDwightFry, on all parts of the spectrum. I feel like you came off a bit preachy and judgmental as if I was criticizing all Autistic people, I was just giving my thoughts on this one FICTIONAL character from a movie that is all. And mjd_subs2 yes, obvious there are more than two forms of men's personalities and can't really be labeled....doesn't change the fact that the writer wrote Luke to be extremely effeminate. There I hoped that cleared up any misunderstandings you may step down from your soap boxes and head to the left for your cookies and awards!

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Luke's speech patterns may have been a bit effeminate, but he didn't come off as gay. I've met gay people who sound "macho." A gay man prefers the company of other men. That wasn't Luke.


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