What a prick...


A friend gives you a $3,000 gift and you leave it for a hooker to sell for a few bucks because you feel that your some sort of superior human because you are too dumb to appreciate wealth? Pfft.

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You did just fine, Clarence. Now go git yo'self some hot cornbread!

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I don't think it was the question of feeling superior, as much as to being compassionate and not wanting for this woman to continue prostituting herself. She sold it for nothing because she did not know the value of what was left behind for her.

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Yeah, but he certainly didn't leave it because he thought she would get a bunch of money for it. It was clear that he just didn't care. I thought the guy's mentality was ridiculous. He obviously thought he was a superior person because he didn't appreciate luxury.

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You did just fine, Clarence. Now go git yo'self some hot cornbread!

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Moodyson's a converted evangelical Christian or something, I think it shows up in the film a little- Bernal goes from smoking pot to suddenly ending up in a house of prostitution. if you look at his other films this guy has strong opinions on the west's attitude towards women. But are there really bars where it's all old white men hitting on the young hot natives like in Mammoth?

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Have you ever been abroad? Oh yes. There is a lot of places like that in countries like Thailand specifically or the Philippines. But in almost all tourist locations around the world.

And plenty of bars where foreign guys prey on Australian/American/Canadian tourist girls specifically.

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You did just fine, Clarence. Now go git yo'self some hot cornbread!

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Yes, this looked very realistic if you've ever been to Thailand.

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He left her the $3,000 pen because he felt sorry for the life she was trapped in and thought she could sell it for a lot of money and try to change her life if she could, or at least not prostitute herself for a while, and he left it to her because he felt guilty about cheating on his wife, and because he realized the crudeness and senselessness and worthlessness and exploitativeness of materialism, a weighted concept that he was already internally pondering the moment the film began.

If you did not glean that, then you should give the film another viewing, because the crux of Bernal's character was his moral struggle to come to terms with his aversion to his affluency, his aversion to how he was treated like a commodity by the company he worked for and how the company was exploiting people in underdeveloped nations, and his unhappiness with his marital life because his wife was caught up in everything he was adverse to.

Also, he didn't have a one-night stand because he felt he was superiour to anyone or was a womanizer or weak-willed, he had a one-night stand for many reasons, including but not limited to because he felt inferiour and alienated and unloved and objectified, he felt disconnected from his wife and the world, and he felt a natural desire to express his confusion and disorientation and compassion for the girl via sex, and not because of the pleasure, but because sex meant two warm confused bodies wrapped around each other consoling each other and protecting each other from all the "bad" in the world. The sex to him was more than just a roll in the hay.

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Convincing argument there. I think Moodysson shows the good side of Christianity through displaying the profound respect the religious can have for human life.

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The guy was thinking about starting a foundation to help people and instead of having the pen selled and give the money to the girl he just simply left it there for her to sell it and getting nothing in return?! What a stupid guy. He even went to Thailand in a private jet but forgot to take a pair of shorts with him! I was wanting him to die by an elephant attack or by the hooker he was so trying to help.

Bad movie, bad acting, bad writing...

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He even went to Thailand in a private jet but forgot to take a pair of shorts with him!
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he did not foresee the way the trip would unfold. He did not know he would be staying days in a beach hut. Expecting him to take beach shorts with him,in regard to the trip as originally projected,
e is like expecting him to think of taking a snorkel mask and flippers with him.

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Yeah, but he certainly didn't leave it because he thought she would get a bunch of money for it.


I think he was probably very naive about impoverished economies, pawnbrokers, etc. He may very well have thought she could get some sort of fair price for it. He was probably never in the position where he had to pawn or sell anything out of desperation, such where he could get seriously taken advantage of (which happens among the poor in the US too, but he likely never experienced that either). He had a good heart, but he didn't really know that world, or how harshly it can operate.

At any rate, even if that local buyer/pawnbroker was honest, he probably would have had no idea what the "mammoth pen" was.


Understanding is a three-edged sword.

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For the sex part, was it a deal with a hooker ? Or just a one-night-stand ?
If for the first reason, then he was no good than any womanizer; if for the latter, then he is a cheater, for Ellen.

If he did sympathize over Cookie's miserable life as he initially gave her free money, at least he should have left a note and let her know the pen and the watches were not treated as to buy her sex, even let her know the market value of these merchandises, so she could improve her life. Leo had no idea Cookie had a infant, apparently.

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I'm only 75% through movie, he has just fallen into having sex with Cookie, but I think people are kind of tough on him.

It is not like he did not pointedly AVOID partying with Thai girls at first, including Cookie...if he was a turd, he could have had three of them every night.. --that's what his colleagues were doing when not actually engaged in the negotiation.

this begins as friendship with Cookie. If she did not come find him at the beach-house, even this would not have happened.They hung out, became friends, then they fall into the rest of it. ...he sort of falls in love with her.

He was crushingly lonely in Thailand.He finds himself suddenly on a steep learning curve about the realities of the greater world.

Such as when opening the door at the club and seeing the kid's soft toys on the bed.

If he is a prick and scum, brace yourself to meet a lot worse than him, in this world.

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