I dont get the ending


Ok Yu should be dead if Lun travelled exactly 20yrs back ?
Also why does she not rmb him or is she faking an expression?
Why was the picture shown??? what did it tell/explain/etc

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I think the movie never implied that the fit of asthma was supposed to be fatal. Or, more significantly, I don't think he travelled EXACTLY 20 years back -- or it would be night time when he arrived at the past. The most fitting explanation is that he travelled to the time period after Yu saw Lun kiss sky but before she left school.

She did remember him. You read her expression wrong -- it was a little bit of surprise and a little bit of happiness.

The picture shown meant that Lun stayed in the past and went to school with Yu (taught by his own dad, perhaps? hmm) It also kind of implied that the movie took side with the "history can be altered by time travel" camp, though the exact details are a bit sketchy..

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If you notice Xiao Yu's impression, you'll realize that Lun actually time travelled back to the moment when Xiao Yu has not found out the secret of time travelling. Maybe the one who played the song can control when he/she wanted to travel to, which makes sense that Xiao Yu is able to travel back in time whenever she wanted to.

let say, think of a date while you play the song, make sense right?

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Hmmm... wha?? I'm in the same boat of not really understanding the ending -_- When I watched the movie, the whole thing was so dark that you couldn't see a bunch of things (such as the picture in the end - it was kinda blurry.. I didn't notice that Lun was in the picture!! Someone explain more clearly about this?)
But anyway, I thought the point was that Xiao Yu died of the asthma attack (so says Wikipedia)?

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cuz you are watching pirate movie, that's why it's so dark and blur, next time, pay your ticket and watch it in cinema.

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Lol, I watched it in the Cinema, but I didn't see her in the photo at the end either...then again, I was looking for Jay. Is he in the photo?

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He is.But the weird thing is,when you travel to the time you don't belong to,only the person who sees you first will be able to see you.However,in the photo,it seems like everyone can see him,if not why would he even be in the photo? :\

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haha I think this is a plothole.

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no, this is something like Lake House or Il Mare

Beware of cbr1000 , the ultimate troll who denies the nanking massacre!

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you guys should go to this web forum.
they got tons of interpretations which does makes sense.
oh and btw, this story has an up-to-you-to-interpret kind of ending.
and the beauty lies therein.

http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=265230&page=0

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i sort of made up my ending because of the plotholes
he goes back and stays there and changes the future, his dad would of had him when he was younger also.

but then i dont get why xiao yu didnt stay in the future.

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How did Sky see Rain? And when Lun was visiting Rain, where was Rain in the present? I know her past self went into the future and then went back but where was her present self? Was she dead because of asthma?

How did Rain become invisible after Lun finished the piano concert?
How in the world could Rain have wrote the words on the desk in the past and make it happen 20 years later?
Also at the end did Lun travel back to when Rain was writing do you love me? on the desk? It makes sense if he did.

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I'm still wondering how Xiao Yu was able to get a white out pen in 79

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Haha. This is the best response I've seen. Where DID she get a white out pen in 79? Okay, but those were available (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_paper), but that's not the point of the movie. The point of the movie is that this is a love story with a twist near the end about how the girl is actually a time traveller from the past, and the guy went back in time at the end to be with her. That's all. Reading anything else into it makes the movie more complicated that it's was meant. In line with Il Mare, scientifically trying to explain everything into a mathematically correct movie makes no sense (e.g. why Jay can be seen by others when he went back, or that he went back more than 20 years, to the time before Rain died or why Rain was even looking healthy... or how her white out pen writings mysteriously appears 20 years later only) because the time line in which he went back isn't the point. The point is he did go back to be with her, and they lived happily ever after, in a different universe timeline (much like Il Mare), and that is shown in the picture taken of both of them at the end.

Trust me, it would make no sense at all for him to go back exactly 20 years where she would be sickly and probably dead, which I assume to be at the point in time when she's dotting out the err... not-yet-created white out pen. If they wanted to create a sad ending story where Jay went back to a time when she has died, then that would be the story, but they didn't.

Just take that playing a magic piece fast or slow on a specific old piano as part of the storyline and don't think too much into it. If you can believe that, you should be able to accept the tiny scientific discrepencies. It's a love story, not Memento or 11:12 or Stephen Hawkins.

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she got it from 1999 :D

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Easy! This isn't an issue at all, since Xiao Yu travelled to the future in 1999. In 1999 the white out pen was already out for sale! She could just buy one from the future. ;)

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How can you not see them. They camera zoomed in to the photo to show them. Jay was in a kinda dorky mushroom hairstyle in the picture.

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read the sentence of the "Secret" general:The road back hidden in the fast Lane melody
I think Lun perform the piano faster than Yu,So he can back the moment when Xiao Yu has not found out the "Secret".
The "Secret" who plaied fast that can travel early.

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here is one explanation that I think is amongst the most logical ones you can come up with.

The time travel music and piano only opens a 20-year back and forth time crack, and the time of 1979 and 1999 is in strict sync,which means, if someone time travels from 1979 Jan 18, he can only get to 1999 Jan 18, exactly same time. Which explains why Xiao Yu is so sad when she heard the building is going to be destroyed on the day of graduation. If she could play into any time she likes,she could always return to the time before the building's gone and meet Lun.

There is a theory about two parallel universes existing when people time travel. And this film followed that theory up to 99%. When Lun asks to get into Xiao yu's house for the first time, he got rejected cause her mother said she's sick and resting. There is a POV shot from the upstairs window behind the curtain, which suggersts that someone is watching Lun. Who could that be? It must be the mid-aged Xiaoyu. Because at that time 20 years back, Xiao Yu's not dead yet, thus the present time Xiaoyu exists. Then in the end, when she dies in 1979, Lun of present time gets into her house, the music is still playing but Xiao yu disappeared. It is because the 1979 Xiao Yu's dead, and the present Xiao yu can no longer exist. In case of her mother's confusing behaviour, I don't think its her mental condition. It is because of the two universes , when something new happens 20 years ago, which changes present time, and changes the mother's memory simultaneously.

The bug of this theory is that if the time of 1979 and 1999 has to be preciously in sync, then how could Lun play back to the time before Xiaoyu finds the secret in 1979? He should get back on the night of the 1979's graduation day, at which time Xiao yu's already dead. I heard rumour says Jay Chou wanted a tragic ending, but the editor didn't agree, and the film is ended with Lun saving Xiaoyu .

But we can still try to explain the theory. Let us suppose the time crack repeats itself endlessly, and each run is from a certain time prior to xiaoyu's dicovery of the secret, say it starts on 1979 Jan 1, and ends on 1979 graduation day mid night. So when Lun played the music at the end of the film, he hits the last key when it turns mid night. As the result, he is ported to the begining of another round of time travel and arrives at 1979 Jan 1. At that time Xiaoyu hasn't found out about the secret, and doesn't know Lun at all. In case of why everyone could see lun and not just Xiaoyu, I think it is because the 1999 building is destroyed and he is stuck in 1979.

The last question is why he travels from 1999night time to 1979 day time if the time has to be in sync? Let's say the time crack starts at 1979 some day's day time. Or he just got knocked out by the steel ball and wakes up a few hours later...haha

I know this theory is not perfect, but I think it's the best you can find to justify the time travel mess in this film.


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your explanation makes sense, but there's another flaw; when Jay was at Xiao Yu's house for the second time, Xiao Yu's mom said: "how come she's not here, she went (snuck) out again." so wouldn't that be keeping along with how she was before when Jay was visiting for the first time? stil, like you said, this whole thing is a mess, and your explanation makes more sense. what makes up for the movie is watching Jay play the piano. lol

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No, not that confusing.

Her mother peeks at Lun b/c he looks similar to Xiaoyu's drawing.

Also her mother acts weird because Xiaoyu has been visiting her house..Lun dropped her off there so many times.. so her mother probably "feels" her presence in some way


"When Lun asks to get into Xiao yu's house for the first time, he got rejected cause her mother said she's sick and resting. There is a POV shot from the upstairs window behind the curtain, which suggersts that someone is watching Lun. Who could that be? It must be the mid-aged Xiaoyu. Because at that time 20 years back, Xiao Yu's not dead yet, thus the present time Xiaoyu exists. Then in the end, when she dies in 1979, Lun of present time gets into her house, the music is still playing but Xiao yu disappeared. It is because the 1979 Xiao Yu's dead, and the present Xiao yu can no longer exist. In case of her mother's confusing behaviour, I don't think its her mental condition. It is because of the two universes , when something new happens 20 years ago, which changes present time, and changes the mother's memory simultaneously."

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Okay, here is my attempt to explain the story. Personally, I think there are few inconsistencies in the movie.

(a) The time traveling speed is fixed - 20 years.
- It make more sense. Unless Xiao Yu is a god-send pianist, there has to be some time or day differences. Also, doesn't make sense that Lun can plays to the year 1979.

(b) Lun's visit to Xiao Yu's room - the past Xiao Yu.
- We saw how there could have been someone looking out the window in Lun's unsuccessful first visit. Probably Xiao Yu from the past visiting her future hallucinating mother.
- In the second visit(the room), the music was played, but nobody is there. Obviously, her mother saw Xiao Yu. This means that Xiao Yu came to visit her future mother again. But when Lun came inside, she was hiding like before. It would explained why the tables and chairs were cover blankets. No one really live there.

(b) No body died or had died.
- For the photo of Lun's father and Xiao Yu, Lun's father didn't mention her death. Only said that the photo was their last time together. It is like how you would never visit your high school teacher you hate. This is true especially after he told the story to other students. Xiao Yu went to her graduation ceremony, only because she wanted to see Lun again -- thus the bracelet scene.

(c) The asthma scene, just unconscious.
- Why not? Broken hearted, asthma, not enough oxygen to the brain, fell unconscious, woke up later, and the last scene.
- Lun played the piano, got hurt, fell asleep, woke up in the morning, and walked to her class. It is morning after the graduation, she was the only one there studying by herself.

(d) The last picture.
- Either few days after the ceremony or later on the same day when they met again.
- Lun's father is not there in the last photo -- thus he never see her again.
- I believed that Lun just sneaked in at the photo. Possible that he was invisible to others.

(e) The untold elope scene, and never to return.
- Since everyone think she is crazy, they elope to other places.
- Therefore, Xiao Yu's mother never see Lun, and never believe her daughter until much later. Also, that is why her mother became some what crazy, and doesn't have any picture of the older Xiao Yu.
- I am extrapolating a lot here.

(f) The "I can't explain"
- The white out scene. They are at two different time lines. Just look at the background of the room. It would make sense if they both are in the present. Also, no whiteout can last 20 years. By the way, the whiteout could have been from the future, since she obviously took the piano piece back to her time.

(g) Possible
- Lun died in the construction.
- Xiao Yu died the morning later.
- Too many alternative endings, so they mesh it up together.

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thanks, totally makes sense but the movie sucks at explaining itself

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yea.. i didnt really get the ending either. but what i really didnt get, or what seemed like a plot hole to me was

in the movie, it was mentioned that no one can see Rain except for jay. yet during the piano battle towards the beginning of the movie, Rain was chatting with a few of the class mates. can someone explain?

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She didn't. She only chatted with Ching Yi, which was explained at the end of the movie that the first person she sees is the only one who can see her. She took an exact number of 108 steps to his class where she would open her eyes to see him first but it was not always the case and this was one where she saw Ching Yi first when she opened her eyes, thus Jay couldn't see her at the piano battle ("you were there?" - he asked her after the battle) but Ching Yi could, and talked to her.

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so Jay can only see Rain right? but when Jay got back to the past, do ppl can see him?
really confusing ending of this movie..

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actually i find it not confusing at all...if u really think about it....remember the verses. "Follow the notes upon a journey, At first sight marks ones destiny. Once the journey comes to an end, return lies within hasty keys"....
The important thing to remember is the first 2 lines.....If you follow the notes(playing it as it was meant to be played), you will be transported to the future.....once in the future...the rules applies....which means the first person who you will see will be the only one who see you....

now...the fourth line only says that when you are ready to return....you have to play the piece fast.....but playing the piece fast means the journey is coming to the end....when u finish the piece...everyone will be able to see you...cuz the rule does not apply after you return...that is why jay was in the picture in the end....because he only followed the last verse....

about the ending..there is a lot of loose ends.....we do not know what point in time he actually went back...all we know is that he went back to before xiaoyu got sick.....(it could be before she found the piece...or after).....i don;t think that was the point...the point is that he was able to get back to the past.....don;t think we should interpret the ending too strongly....i think it meant to be open ended....

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There was another explaination, that the rules on the Secret doesn't play to Lun, because he never actually saw the music script...
The last time we saw the script was when Xiao Yu gave it to Lun's father in 1979, and Lun ran out to school before his father retrieved it from his study in 1999.
He never saw it, maybe the rule didn't apply to him? *shrugs*

Humans are destroyers of the worlds.
Humans shall destroy them selves in the end.

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heyys.
I dont think lun played the last note, cos` I never hear him hitting the last note. I dont know or did you all hear the last note of the piece?

And I'm confused about the near-ending of the show. Like; is yu and lun alive or dead? When lun's father invited yu to perform at graduation day, was it her current time or 20 years later? When lun found out the secret, where is yu? And if lun never dies, the first place he knows he will find yu is at the classroom hence the 2nd last scene. Lun couldnt possibly return back to 20yrs ago cos` lets say lun is 20 yrs old and 20 yrs ago he was only 1. The photo aside; when yu saw lun, she would prolly embrace him because she loved him right but why is it that she never do so and back to the photo; if you guys think that lun and yu are together, why is this so if they "forgot" each other?
Oh my gosh, the near ending of the movie reminds me of Casper.

The show was supverb until the end of the show...
well nevermind, I dont think I will ever understand the ending...

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i agree i dont think i will ever understand it.

the photo screwed it up because no one else was supposed to be able to see jay - like when the girl travels to the future only jay can see her. (if everyone can see him how will the dad see him? cuz he would suddenly be 20 years older?)

i think it was suggested that jay will have to make her fall in love with him again because it was obvious on her face that she forgot him. when she saw him she just smiled and nodded politely, and like tiger said, didnt run to embrace him.

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the way I see it, or the way I WANT to see it is that (1) Jay traveled further back in time because maybe he played it in a faster pace thus going farther back in time(longer then 20 years). (2) Being able to only be seen by the first person only applies when going to the future since they only said when the piece was played at regular speed you go on a journey thus you can only be seen by one person. Since when xiao yu was able to be seen when she went back why cant jay be seen when he went to the past.

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the ending is simple. the piano is already destroyed in the future. even if Lun want to go back to his time, he can't. which means the 'magic' of the piano is also destroyed, therefore everyone is able to see him already...

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yeah she couldve brought the white-out back to the past.
God damn, she cud've brought also maybe an Ipod or other inventions and sell them to her classmates. She wouldve earned some extra cash.

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LOL how would they upload their music. Plus they didn't have any USB connection nor MP3. Don't try rationalize the movie because in the end its just a movie.
BTW where was jay in the photo I didn't see him. >.<

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"Follow the notes upon a journey, At first sight marks ones destiny. Once the journey comes to an end, return lies within hasty keys"....
Read it very carefully and think about the narrative in the movie. Think about which lines apply to which person. Look at the verses seperately, forget about the details of the time travel and the death, they do not supply answers to the stories meanings.

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Me and my sister watched the ending, and it did get a bit confusing. Our interpretation of it was that they both died. Jay was not able to hit the last key in time when the building was torn down, and the girl died of asthma.

The last scene was their meeting in the afterlife :)

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Oh, and the father died too.

Of an heart attack. (as seen when he was clenching his heart as he ran back to the school to Jay).

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Alright, these are my thoughts on the ending...

I think that XiaoYu did die from an asthma attack when she was writing the message on the desk. Hence the "tragic ending" to her story that the father told Jay. When jay found out, he went to the piano building and played the song fast on the piano to travel back. We have already established that he can play the piano uncannily fast (see the piano battle) so he uses this talent to play it faster than usual which is why he goes back to before she dies.
The piano is destroyed therefore he's stuck in the past permanently.

Judging by the girl's expression when she sees Jay, he must have gone back to even before she'd discovered the magical sheet music.
This means that no one thinks she's crazy and she can live a happy normal life now, with Jay.
The picure at the end is like a class photo I assume. Which means that they graduated together. It would also imply that everyone can see him. Which might be because he went to the past -not the future- (so the "1st person you see" rule doesn't apply?) or maybe it's just because the piano was destroyed.

With regards to her mother in the future. I think for the first while of the movie (before she died in the past) XiaoYu would have still been alive and would probably still be living there with her mother because everyone thought she was crazy and she let them think that.
When Jay goes to visit her the 2nd timne, and is let in, The mother says that she's in her room. I think perhaps the mother is not "all there". She might be a little bit crazy herself. At that point, Xiao Yu is dead, and has been dead for 20 years. (Notice the only pictures of her in the house are from 20 years ago). So her dying in the past cancelled out her ever having lived/existed in the present.

I don't know if any of that makes sense... but it's only my interpretation of the film.
I loved this movie because it's one that makes you continue to think for hours after the credits have finished rolling. Everyone is entitled to their own interpretation. It is truly a beautiful movie.

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Oh yes, about Jay's father...
I think he died in the future of a heart attack...
But because Jay went back to the past, that was also cancelled out because now Jay wasn't his son anymore.
The father would still be in the past, but he would not recognize Jay as his son,
because his son Jay was probably either not born or a baby at that point.
So the father didn't die because Jay gave up his old life to start a new one in 1979.
Sort of like with the destruction of the piano, he cut away all ties with his life in 1999.
Again not sure if this makes any sense. It's just my interpretation ;)

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