Did Rain die?


I don't get it..... so did Rain die on Graduation day? Cause in the future, her mom was acting like she was still home, telling Jay that she was listening to music or resting in her room. And also, she was still alive when Jay went back to the past while the piano building was being torn down. And also the building being torn down.... does that mean he can't return to the future? So confusing! So much depth and complexity in this movie, it is now one of my favorite movies of all time, in all languages!

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Well the way I saw it (trying to remember having only seen it once a couple of months ago. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy though!) Jay went back then the piano building was destroyed, so yes he's stuck in the past. And....didn't Jay meet Rain again once back in time, meaning she didn't die? Can't quite remember, sorry.

Leon:Let me tell you about my mother.

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She has an asthma attack, but FAINTS, not dies.

This movie had a lot of complexity in it, but its all explained :D I love movies that actually make SENSE.

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Well the way I saw it (trying to remember having only seen it once a couple of months ago. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy though!) Jay went back then the piano building was destroyed, so yes he's stuck in the past. And....didn't Jay meet Rain again once back in time, meaning she didn't die? Can't quite remember, sorry.


This is the part I didn't understand. Wouldn't he just be able to go back into the future but before the piano room was destroyed? Or can you only go back to the point in time that you left? It's confusing :/

"You look depressed, Master... shall we go kill something to cheer you up?" -HK-47

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I think you can only go back to the point in time at which you left, or at least you can't choose the point at which you return. I haven't seen the movie in a while (and only seen it once) but will get a copy soon and watch it again to be sure.

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she did die, but Jay went back in time by playing the piano at the end and arrived in the past before she discovered the script in the beginning, therefore altering the events (again) and preventing her death from the Asthma attack on graduation day (evident by their happy graduation photo in 1979)

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The way I see it, she died (probably due to a heavy asthma attack after seeing the bracelet on Jay's arm). Her room being empty and her mother saying she's listening to her favorite song is probably because her mother can't get over the death of her daughter.

Keep in mind that Rain, in her own time, had no/little friends (not clarified very much, but she was teased at school and no one stood up for her) and her mother thought she was going insane (hence the medication). When even Jay seemingly abandoned her, it all became too much for her. The way Jay's father speaks about her, also makes it seem as if she has died.

In the very last second, right before the piano is crushed, Jay managed to play the piece fast (indicating he traveled back in time). The first one he saw was Rain and that is where the movie ends.

So now I wonder a few things, as this ending is not a very happy one.
- If the time traveled forward/backward is relative, then if Jay plays the score slowly, he will travel towards a time where there is no piano (is this even possible?).
- If he returns at the exact moment when he disappeared from his time period, upon his return he will be crushed.

Assuming he can't return to his time, he will forever be stuck in the past where only Rain can see him. Still no one will believe Rain, because they can't see Jay. Everything that got clarified to other characters in the film was for naught, as in the past this information is obviously not available.


As with all time-travel plots, it creates a few interesting twists. For instance: What will happen when Jay lives in the past for 20 years? Will his 'real' self (since there are two Jay's then) eventually travel back in time as well for Rain?

Anyway, the movie was very nice although the ending could've gotten a liiiittle bit more clarification.




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