In reply to the OP, "Soviet" people never existed. The country was called the Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics, consisting of 15 states that had hundreds of various nationalities. The majority were Russian, run by a non-Russian government whose composition was Russian as much as sand is in the Arctic. (Lenin = Jewish anti-Tsarist traitor, Stalin = Georgian, Khrushchev = Ukrainian, Brezhnev = Ukrainian, etc...)
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This is also why Russia will never fall. It is also why America resents and despises them so much.
The 1st sentence, I TOTALLY agree with. Russia is a furnace that fuses different nationalities into a common identity and thus will never falter to a foreign enemy, demonstrated in their unity to expel the Polish in 1616 and form the longest-lasting common state not seen in Western Europe since Switzerland
As for the 2nd sentence, I could not disagree more. Americans do not despise Russia. They were taught to conquer and defeat communism. The Cold War was an ideological warfare between capitalist and socialist societies, where communism promoted (and still promotes in other countries) the equal distribution of poverty and capitalism promoted a lower class having the opportunity to accumulate wealth and prosper. Unfortunately the more communism failed into the 1980s, the more obvious it became that America was becoming victim of a similar system that has slowly been engulfed the country since the formation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 and the rejection of the Gold Standard in 1971, both similar features to any fiat currency style economies of the third world. Russia and America were always allies, minus 1946-1963 and 1979-1988, who supported each others' existence from 1776 to today. We've been bordering each other since 1859 and despite the differences in diplomatic affairs worldwide, have ruled the world with the most advanced technology and brilliant minds seen in modern history.
Russians in World War II fought for their COUNTRY, not an ideological concept that was propagated in the trenches by the few in power, and thus were victorious in expelling the foreign enemy through a unbeatable militia resistance.
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Thusnelda
13 years ago
Americans do not despise Russia. They were taught to conquer and defeat communism. The Cold War was an ideological warfare between capitalist and socialist societies, where communism promoted (and still promotes in other countries) the equal distribution of poverty and capitalism promoted a lower class having the opportunity to accumulate wealth and prosper. Unfortunately the more communism failed into the 1980s, the more obvious it became that America was becoming victim of a similar system that has slowly been engulfed the country since the formation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 and the rejection of the Gold Standard in 1971, both similar features to any fiat currency style economies of the third world. Russia and America were always allies, minus 1946-1963 and 1979-1988, who supported each others' existence from 1776 to today.
The "Cold War" between the USA and the Soviet Union was a propaganda fake.
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aliza_tvito
13 years ago
I just got thr your message history, Thusnelda, and I'm very curious about the sh*t you smoke. My warm advice to you: flush it away NOW. Hope it's still not too late.
Thank God, I'm an Atheist! - Luis Bunuel
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Slew_Foot
13 years ago
Excellent post, timberlax. Very well said.
Ahh, what the heck --- You too, Hannah.
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chris12345678
13 years ago
::The 1st sentence, I TOTALLY agree with. Russia is a furnace that fuses different nationalities into a common identity and thus will never falter to a foreign enemy, demonstrated in their unity to expel the Polish in 1616 and form the longest-lasting common state not seen in Western Europe since Switzerland
When the Soviet empire fell apart in 1990 it turned out that the furnace did not perform as well as expected. There doesn't seem to be much love lost here. Maybe it was mostly bloody terror then? In Estonia, for example, they were not that thrilled with a certain monument. The presidents of Belarus and Ukraine were poisoned but survived. And look what happened in Chechnya and Georgia. They were not happy to be a part of the common identity and what price they paid while the world looked on and did nothing.
::Russians in World War II fought for their COUNTRY, not an ideological concept that was propagated in the trenches by the few in power, and thus were victorious in expelling the foreign enemy through a unbeatable militia resistance.
Everyone fights for their country, not just Russians. And throughout history they mostly fought for their religion, as their leaders always in times of war stressed to the uneducated masses that the invaders wanted to destroy their holy orthodox faith. Plus there was definitely a lot of sometimes lunatic propaganda. During the Napoleonic invasion, for example, a group of prisoner Russian peasants begged the stunned French on their knees not to eat them and only calmed down after a long string of oaths that they will not be eaten. Apparently they were told by their leaders that the French were cannibals.
So maybe only not everyone fights with such ferocity and fanaticism as the Russians, and any prisoners are usually tortured to death (during winter people were for example drowned in rivers in holes cut in the ice). Remember that scene from "Europa, Europa"? The German soldiers shout to each other: "I'd rather be fighting in the West, at least the Americans take prisoners, while the Russians just kill everybody". For myself I admire more the Vietnamese for example, who are a lot braver and described by many to be the best soldiers in the world, as the Americans and French can testify - incidentally, there were many German veterans of WWII in the French foreign legion who fought for France in Vietnam, and indirectly for the Americans. Or some of the North American Indian leaders such as Pontiac or Tecumseh. Or Gandhi for that matter.
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