Voting scam?


After Kandisha came up on the top 50 horror list and on the top 50 fantasy list, I have tried to get the hold of this movie. The movie has 8.0 points today at IMDB with over 5000 votes, that makes at #18 at top horror movies at IMDB.

The problem is that the movie is not out on DVD/Blu-ray. It's not possible to see it online and not even as an illegal download. The movie has only been showed at a few film festivals. So I don't think even think 5000 people has seen the movie.

For me this is obviously a voting scam from the company to marked the movie. The staff of IMDB should remove all the fake votes, so things like this don't destroy the top lists at IMDB.

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Yeah, but what's the point of the voting scam since no one can buy or see this movie?

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Well, maybe for trying to sell the movie to distributors?

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I've raised the issue here: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/211342080?d=215187448#2151874 48 Let the IMDb staff know.

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A lot of good films (though not 8.0 good) released locally get overly high scores from the audience, because they want to support local cinema.
It happens a lot in my country, so it might be happening in Morocco too. Many people have imdb accounts only in order to vote for their local favourites.
It is not a scam, though it is not a representative/objective vote either. While those films appear in regular top lists, they won't appear on the imdb top 250, because I don't think imdb counts the votes from such irregular accounts.

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It's almost certainly a clickbot scam of some kind (and it's not the first - the Japanese film Carnivores was removed from the database for being the object of a voting scam). The film has barely been released, is not available to buy or download anywhere, and has over 5,000 votes (657 of which are from US voters, when the film has only screened once in the US, and 52% of which are 10/10s). There's no other film in the database with this kind of exposure and this amount of 10/10 votes.

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You could be right, but in that case why hasn't the imdb staff taken down Kandisha too, or removed the fake votes?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing just for the sake of it, and I might very well be wrong, but I have seen other films with similar scores which are not fakes.

I'll give an example:

Mission London (2010) was released only in Bulgaria (and apparently in Hungary), and appeared on few, mostly local festivals (though I have to say the marketing in Bulgaria was huge). It has 4,826 votes, with an average score of 7.6 and 52.6% 10/10s and 131 votes from US users, even though it was never shown in the USA.
And I can assure you all these votes are legit, coming from Bulgarians who voted so high out of some sense of patriotism and because even though the film wasn't so good, it was still something fresh for Bulgarian cinema.

Similarly, Footsteps in the Sand (2010), another average film, has a score of 8.2 and 53.6% 10/10s, though less people have voted for it (only 1,017). But Bulgaria has a population of only 7 million, while there are 33 million people living in Morocco, so I am not surprised Kandisha has over 5,000 votes.

Other similar cases are Tilt (2011), Love.net (2011)...

And these are just Bulgarian films, and I am sure this happens in other countries too.

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Mission London is available on DVD and it's up on the torrents, so it has far greater exposure than Kandisha. And even it only has 161 votes from US voters, as opposed to Kandisha's 657. That one detail is what suggests most strongly to me that this is a scam (its high rating may be partially attributable to Moroccan patriotism, sure, but that doesn't account for the high rating from a relatively high quantity of US voters who, it seems, have no way of even seeing the movie in the first place).

As for why they haven't removed it yet - I guess because it's not as clear-cut as Carnivores was; there was barely even any evidence that Carnivores existed, whereas Kandisha is clearly a real film.

Anyway, if it is a scam, it's definitely worked, because I am interested in seeing the film.

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Yeah, you've got a point there.
And I want to see it too. That random David Carradine moment at the end of the trailer cracks me up. :D
But if it's a marketing scam, it is only partially successful, because even though we would watch the film, we can't. :D

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http://www.amazon.com/Kandisha-DavidCarradine/dp/B00U4ZHJOQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436684642&sr=8-1&keywords=kandisha

It's not a lot to go off of, but the two reviews left there are pretty damning, and would support your theory.

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