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Someone Pls Explain - Didn't Understand the Ending - Spoilers


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I got a copy from a friend and watched this.

OK I m so CONFUSED. I need some explanation please! I didn't get it.

I think the film is inspired by Lord of the Flies and Apocalypse Now. That much I understand.



1 Why did the "trusted captain" leave them?

2 So why did wifey allowed her hubby to be killed, disemboweled and did the kids eat him alive?

I mean look, hubby paid bunches and followed her because he cares too right? That was so unnecessary imo.

3 Why didn't the kids kill her too?




Please enlighten me~!!

Thanks in advance.


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Why are you looking for a logic explanation in a such crazy film?

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I recently had the chance to view Vinyan and have a few comments that I hope will help with your questions.

1. I believe the "trusted captain" didn't leave them behind, but was in fact the body seen hanging from the tree just after Paul and Jeanne's departure from the abandoned shanty town. He had the same hair style and clothing and was being stoned by the children standing in the tree above him.

2. If you recall, at the very beginning of the film there was a prolonged shot of a person who could only have been their son Joshua flailing beneath surging water that eventually turned red with blood. I believe that what the filmmaker wants us to believe that Paul was unable to help his son during the tsunami, and bears a greater burden of responsibility for his death(whether such an attitude is fair or not is impossible to know as that part of the story is left intentionally ambiguous). Since the "children" are probably meant to be VINYAN(the angry spirits of those killed by violent or horrific circumstance mentioned by some characters earlier in the movie), they killed Paul as punishment for his failure. Again, whether such a thing was deserved or not is hard to tell, but given the look of condemnation and certainty on Jeanne's face when first confronting him about the subject later in the film("You let him go."), Paul's fate seemed sealed.

3. I believe the children didn't kill Jeanne because she was the only one of the film's main character's to be "faultless." Most, if not all, others were criminals with apparent ties to child trafficking(even Thaksin Gao, the character assisting them on their trip, attempted to sell them a child that wasn't theirs to take the place of Joshua and was eventually stoned/buried alive by the children in the pit near the ruins) or the husband/father Paul, who seems to have been condemned by his inability to save his son.

Films like Vinyan tend to be open to a great deal of interpretation and deciphering them can be either an interesting part of the experience or an annoyingly frustrating one. Either way, I hope this helped.

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hey ericjamespray-1
tyvm for the comprehensive explanation. it's all clear now! <3

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Nice explanation.

Just wondering, is the mother dead?
The old woman seems to be scared of her and she (the mother) appears "outside" the story during the whole film, as if she's observing it from a distance.

Any idea who the dead person on the beach is, following the lantern-scene? For a moment it seems to be Gao.
And are all people dead/in transition on the final island?

Fear is the mother of morality.

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Interesting answers, thanks
Soulsleeper interesting questions Iwondred the same

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Perfect answer, ericjamespray-1.

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Thanks for the thoughtful comment. Was this film marketed as horror? It can be the only explanation for all the snotnosed brats and their "hands down, yo, most boringest film EVR" posts.

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"Den Gleichen Gleiches, den Ungleichen Ungleiches."

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One other idea I've had regarding the children murdering Paul is that when Jeanne mentioned he had failed Joshua("You let him go.")she was in fact referring to his apparent willingness to accept their son's death and move on, something she wouldn't or was unable to do. Regardless, whichever theory is correct, she and the VINYAN apparently saw him as deserving a rather harsh judgement.

Poor Paul.

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The reason she remained alive was because she had become Vinyan. The reason the men were killed was because they were still human, still had a soul. These sad, horrid deaths would've turned them to Vinyan I'm sure. She was already there, and you can see her degenerating through the film.
If her son was deceased, he would've also been vinyan. This is why she was able to see him in all of them. She basically found exactly what she was looking for.

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All very good theories. I'm very glad to come here and see intelligent conversation as opposed to the other threads where people were - for some reason - expecting a mindless horror/slasher or something.

I thought this was a wonderfully made movie that will never get the respect it deserves - maybe due to false marketing. It's a "thinker" for sure.

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I agree Ash-56
On many other boards, trolling is really horrible. Im glad people here were courteous offering straight answers.

Thanks guys <3 really appreciate it.

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Also both Gao tells Paul taht both he and Sonchai - the captain - had also lost relatives in the Tsunami

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Well, here goes...

1 Why did the "trusted captain" leave them?

A: He wasn't trustworthy, or he just saw that the woman was basically nuts (when she jumped into the water to swim after the missing boat and her belongings.

2 So why did wifey allowed her hubby to be killed, disemboweled and did the kids eat him alive? I mean look, hubby paid bunches and followed her because he cares too right? That was so unnecessary imo.

A: Her obsession with finding her son was constanly being interrupted by her husband's more rational and realistic grasp and interjection of the probability/reality that their son was dead; She was getting him out of the way so she could find her son. In her mind he was the bad guy for trying to stop her.

3. Why didn't the kids kill her too?

A: She was hot and they wanted to keep on feeling her boobs.

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I feel that the boys kept her because she was their Wendy. They are the lost boys.

Movies: Now more than ever.

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That was exactly what I thought!

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Excellent! I love that idea! You've rendered the ending even more weird/disturbing than it already was!!

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by - flamingdiva I got a copy from a friend and watched this.

OK I m so CONFUSED. I need some explanation please! I didn't get it.

I think the film is inspired by Lord of the Flies and Apocalypse Now. That much I understand.



1 Why did the "trusted captain" leave them?

2 So why did wifey allowed her hubby to be killed, disemboweled and did the kids eat him alive?

I mean look, hubby paid bunches and followed her because he cares too right? That was so unnecessary imo.

3 Why didn't the kids kill her too?




Please enlighten me~!!






1. The Captain was killed by the children I believe. The corpse in the trees. Presumably they sank the boat.
2. I believe she blamed him for lossing their child.
3. She is now their mother, or just another drifting soul.

I did not like the film at all. I gave Vinyan 3/10 for the scenery.
It was not the worst that I have seen.

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wow! i came a little late to this party but i got at least some of the answers i was searching for. i just watched it as a Netflix rental and i couldn't find it on themoviespoiler.com so i figured someone here would have posted.

did i miss it or was there some indication earlier in the film that the father had "let him go" which caused the son's disappearance?

in any case, the wife and the Vinyan were a bit harsh to me. it wasn't like the father was a real jerk or anything. sheesh!

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After they have been abandoned on the island, the father has a dream in which he is holding hands with his son while running through a storm, and lets go of his son's hand, losing him. But that could also have been just a dream, as everything in this movie is open to interpretation.

Revenge is a dish that best goes stale.

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I thought the captain was the corpse they found in the trees also. But then later they showed him still alive trapped in the pit didn't they? And that was the guy the kids buried alive. Or was that someone else? This movie totally confused me .

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The guy in the pit was the human trafficker that they paid to help them, the captains boss.
It was very pretty to look at though wasn't it. Even if it has left us scratching our heads.

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In response to question 3, I think it's as simple as the kids recognizing her insanity. They'd clearly lost it and so had she. In the end, no matter how far gone the kids were, they were still kids and they need a mum, and no matter how much she claimed she needed Joshua, she really just needed a child to hold and love, even if it wasn't Joshua, thus why she thought every kid she saw was her son. The kids needed a mum, the mum needed a kid (or fifty :P) - so they all lived happily ever after.

steph

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The mother's face at the very end suggests that she isn't going to have a happy ending either.

There are very clear color and makeup choices in the final scene: the boys behind the father are ghost white, the horde around the mother is in earthy browns. I think this was meant to represent the parent's relationship with their dead son: he's a ghost to the father, he's an unkillable wild child to the mother.

The father is torn apart by his hopelessness. The mother begins in ecstasy as she is washed in mud by the vinyan, but as the boys/spirits/memories continue to stroke her, her face changes, the smile drops, and she gains a look of apprehension. My theory is that she begins to realize that she is as hopeless as the husband, but rather than being torn apart quickly, she is condemned to always hope and pine for her son, without satisfaction.

I don't think the last 1/3 of the film is intended to be taken literally. As the scenes grew more and more surreal, my belief in the tangible world they were in dropped.

Just my $.02

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Excellent theory
Thank you

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I thought this film fitted the horror category but not in the traditional sense. Someone going insane with grief, a man being disembowelled and some feral kids touching up a woman. I mean ugh. If that isn't horrific, I don't know what is!

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