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Can someone elaborate on the "extreme" nature of this film?


I have been intrigued by this flick for a while, but am apprehensive given the reviews. I have seen Inside, Irreversible, Audition, Pan's Labyrinth... is the violence in this on par with those films? Stylistically the same? The club scene in irreversible is definitely the hardest scene of violence i've seen in a movie. Can I make it through this? Anyone care to help clarify?

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The movie is nowhere near as violent as the films you mentioned. It's just the best movie out of all of them.

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I don't know if I agree with you by saying it is not as violent. I'd say it is more gruesome than the other movies mentioned and I agree that is it a better movie. I turned off Irreversible after about 5 minutes of the rape scene and never watch the ending but I was transfixed by Martyrs. I've never turned off a movie before due to the violence. I think each person has different sensitivity to different types of violence. I felt that Martyrs wasn't being violent for the sake of it and Irreversible clearly was but that is subjective.

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I think the hammer scene in Kill List is the more shocking and disturbingly violent than the content of the (excellent) aforementioned films. Including the fire extinguisher scene in Irreversible.

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^^^^So much yes.

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I felt that Martyrs wasn't being violent for the sake of it and Irreversible clearly was but that is subjective.

I felt exactly the opposite.

Films like Irreversible and Pan's Labyrinth don't compare at all to Martyrs on mindless violence scale or how graphic the violence was. They skinned a pretty young girl alive ffs... and feasted on the scene.

Those films had actual meaning for showing the violence, while Martyrs didn't - Martyrs was violence for the sake of violence, there was no redeeming factor to it. Martyrs had a story to serve the violence while the other films had violence to serve the story.

There is no other reason to watch "Martyrs" than the gratuitous and graphic violence & torture. I advice not to.

The leading makeup artist of "Martyrs" killed himself after the film was finished.

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I can't disagree with this more. There was nothing gratuitous about Martyrs. They hardly even showed anything. If you want gratuitous, try the Saw series.

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Did I see a cut version? The one I watched she was just suddenly flayed but you never saw the actual scene.

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The leading makeup artist of "Martyrs" killed himself after the film was finished.
But not before working on two more projects. You certainly can't imply cause and effect here.

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MTE, it's disgusting to bring in an actual person's death to further their views on a film.

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Haven't seen it, but is it really better than Pan's Labyrinth? I mean that's one of my all time favorites.


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It's good but Pan's is better.

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It's good but Pan's is better.

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Nothing to worry about here. Saw and Hostel where much gorier than this. It is true that some terrible stuff happens to the girl, but I didn't find they really dwelled on the torture parts of it unnecessarily or in ways that made me uneasy.

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i think this is the most violent and gruesome movie i have ever watched. picture martyrs as a 2 hour rape scene in ireversible :)

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Pan's Labyrinth is extreme??

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I mean, it's on the low end of the spectrum. A couple of rough scenes.

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You know, call me desensitized, but I honestly didn't think this movie was much more graphic than most of the horror flicks that come out these days. I think what makes it so disturbing is the thematic core of it that people have such extreme reactions to. It's a totally dispiriting movie, but not anywhere near as gory as the films you mentioned; I'd say Martyrs probably has most in common with Inside and Irreversible just because of the French (in Martyrs' case, French-Canadian) sensibility.

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You know, call me desensitized, but I honestly didn't think this movie was much more graphic than most of the horror flicks that come out these days. I think what makes it so disturbing is the thematic core of it that people have such extreme reactions to. It's a totally dispiriting movie, but not anywhere near as gory as the films you mentioned;

Ah, I guess that must be why it didn't hit me that hard either... After all that I'd read about how horrifying this movie was, I expected to be shaking in my chair by the end of it. But this explains it; I must simply be dead inside. }|:op

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It's the emotional violence and the places it hits, its one of those movies that someone who has no relation to long term abuse and trauma would not feel the same way as those who do, since it's entirely about the horrors of ptsd, the fear of falling into the cycles of abuse, gaslighting, ect.

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Apart from the "skinning" part of the film, I actually found it to be a lot less violent, than what its rumor would seem to suggest. I believe that Inside was much more gory, and graphical than Martyrs in almost every aspect. I also believe it to be the better movie of the two, but that's a different matter altogether.

I don't know, I just can't help but feel a little disappointed. Martyrs is frequently listed as one of the most disturbing and extreme movies from the New French Extremism (or in general), and it tops many of the lists of "movies that are so emotionally draining, you should only watch it once" (like Salo, A Serbian Film etc.), but I just don't see it. I think Inside fits that description more than Martyrs does. I would have more of a problem with watching Inside again, especially at night.

I could definitely see myself watching Martyrs again this Halloween, and maybe it is just one of those movies you need to watch more than once, in order to fully get it, 'cause I sure seem to be missing something apparently.

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I don't think there's much more disturbing to me than the systematic flaying of someone

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Irreversible is more violent.

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