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X men vs Krrish 3: Comparisons are exaggerated

posted 11 years ago by agentphilosopher007
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I just went on a movie watching spree and watched all the X men films(X men, X2, X men: Last Stand and X Men: First class) Here is a comparison

Story and plot:

X men series: The story is about a race new of mutants which have appeared due to genetic mutations. This new race of mutants faces prejudice and discrimination by the human race, leading to a faction of Mutants forming headed by Magneto that hate humans and see them as an inferior race to be exterminated. Another faction of mutants trained by Professor Charles Xavier at his school for Gifted children, which is also a secret underground base for mutant training to protect the humans from the evil faction.

Krrish 3: The story is about Krrish, an alien-human hybrid born because his father Rohit Mehra was given alien powers by Jadoo who left for his planet. Krrish is now a masked crape crusader superhero fighting crime and evil scientists, having already vanquished Dr Arya who tried to build a supercomputer that could look into the future using Rohit Mehra's help, but had designs to use it for world domination. Now Krrish is up against Kaal, another megalomaniac scientist

Who Is really his genetic brother, and was produced by Dr Arya using Rohit Mehra genes

Who is the head of a pharmaceutical company which manufactures and sells antidotes to deadly viruses created using the unique DNA of Kaal. Kaal born paraplegic and with telekinetic powers is in a quest to find a bone marrow which is compatible with his DNA to cure himself, motivating this genetic experiments where he fuses human DNA with animal DNA producing various mutants.

Meanwhile Rohit is searching for the secret to the life giving solar energy that was the secret to Jadoo's powers and finding a way to tap this energy.

The solar energy ends up becoming the means to destroy Kaal

Characters

Mystique: Mystique is originally a blue creature with a unique constitution the cells in her body are able to take on any form she wishes. She is a feme fatelle working for Magneto and suffers from insecurity about her looks.

Kaya: Kaya is originally a squid like creature, though her default form is the appearance of Kangana. She was created by combining the DNA of human with a chameleon and she has infinite plasticity, she can by touching any subject acquire their DNA and mould herself in that form. As she has infinite plasticity she can also walk through walls. She is a feme fatelle who works for Kaal, but she also experiences emotions and human conscience and falls in love with Krrish.

Toad: Toad is a mutant with the abilities of a frog, he can throw out a long green snake like tongue, he is agile, leap-frogs, spits out sticky slime and sticks to walls.(Toad is killed off by Storm in the first film)

Striker: Striker is created by Kaal by combining human DNA and frog DNA. Striker has an indefinitely long and red tongue which he can throw about around corners, inside ventilation grills, break things with it.

Professor X + Magneto: Professor X is paraplegic because of an accident in his earlier life and is a telepath, he has the powers to read peoples minds and control them and he is also clairvoyant. He is a good scientist whose interest is mutant science and has built a facility to recruit and train mutants to protect humans. Magneto is an evil scientist has the ability to create electromagnetic fields and manipulate metal objects. He recruits and trains mutants to destroy humans.

Kaal: He is born with telekinetic powers and is paraplegic. Kaal is unaware of how he was born and makes it his mission to discover why he is so different and get the bone marrow he needs to cure himself. He is a misanthrope and does not go into daylight like a vampire. His mission is to become God of humans.

[–] NoLANIST 11 years ago

Okay, I havent got all technical with you, Now Let me get started.
Kaal inspired from both Prof. X and Magneto, obviously they didnt ditto copied him but all of those who have seen x-men series are saying that it is copied, not ditto but kaal's character was made due to those two. And He was mainly inspired from them but we can see concept of telekinesis in X-men. For.e.g. Jean Grey. But that thing is completely different lets say.
Kaya's character also have been inspired by 2 X-men characters First one is Mystique. Mystique- She is a mutant, a shapeshifter whose default appearance includes blue skin and yellow eyes, not a creature, same as Manvars. 2nd character is Kitty Pryde. Kitty Pryde a.k.a SHADOWCAT-She is also a mutant, She have phase ability that allows her and objects or people with which she is in contact to become intangible. Now, I would like to say about Kaya. As we know she was created with combining the DNA of human with a chameleon. Do tell me chameleon shapeshifts or just changes his color and i think chameleon also cannot walk phased through the walls, now u will say kaal had all together different DNA thats why Kaya got those ablity. Wrong again then coz he has power of telekinesis. Also Kaya got those powers, so why didnt Striker got some more power like phasing, i mean he was looking a perfect combination of man and animals i.e manvars.
Toad was total rip-off, and i dont want to argue about that. Just changing the color of tongue is not something new -_-

Magneto is an evil scientist has the ability to create electromagnetic fields and manipulate metal objects. He recruits and trains mutants to destroy humans.

Ahahaha xD, Magneto is not a scientist. And Magneto's ability does not ends there. He can also affect non-metallic and non-magnetic objects to a lesser extent. So technically Magneto is a player of electrons and protons. He can just turn a ordinary man into jello-meat by concentrating on electrons. He just can play with gravitation field if he wants, but thats in comics. And tell u Kaal's intension and Magneto's intension are same,If I am not mistaken Kaal has said that We are the future we are better species and we will replace Humans. And Same words were said in X2 by Magneto.
I know story is not copied but characters and their powers are and sometimes the whole scene are either inspired or copied. And hey I m not aganist copy. Par thoda dhang se copy karenge toh aur maza aayega na. -_-

[–] agentphilosopher007 11 years ago

Regarding Kaal's character. Sure, I can see some references to Magneto and Mr X(another review I saw also references Unbreakable) but they are just that, references. Otherwise Kaal's character is very different to both Magneto and Mr X or a combination of them.

Telekinesis is a very generic ability and Magneto or Jean Grey for that matter are not the first to have it. I can think of loads of movies which had eccentric characters with telekinetic ability and could move metallic objects, such as Powder and Phenomenon.

As another guy recently said in another thread it is pretty difficult to come up with an original sci fi and superhero character, as the chances are it's already been done.

Masked cape crusader: Batman, Superman
Alter ego of superhero: Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Kick Ass
Flies through the city from building to building: Spiderman
Flying generally: Superman, Ironman
Metallic suits: Ironman, Transformers
Mutants: X Men
Telekenisis: Powder, Phenomenon, X Men
Pyokenesis: X men
Shooting lasers out of the eye: X men, Superman
Invisibility: Invisible man, Hollow man
Turning things into ice: X men, Narnia
Running super fast: X men, Superman
Slowing down time: X men, Matrix
Cloning: X files, X men
Talking animals: Dr Dolittle, Narnia
Biowarfare: Outbreak, Twelve monkeys, 28 days later, I am legend, World war Z
Aliens: ET, Alien, species, Mars Attack, Independence day, District 9, Star Wars, Star Trek
Virtual reality: Tron, Existence, Lawnmower man, Vanilla sky
Space ships: Star Trek, Star Wars, Independence day, Battlefield Galactica, Babylon 5
Time travel: Back to the future, Frequency, Butterfly effect
Mass destruction of cities: Transformers, Avengers, Man of Steel
Love interest of Superhero: Superman, Spiderman
Shapeshifting: X men, incredible Hulk, Species
Teleporting: Azael(?)
Character with wings: X men, Angel, Buffy the Vampire slayer

Hollywood has been making sci fi since, hmm, the 30's? It has already exhausted most of the possibilities genre. It is very difficult to come up with something original.

[–] NoLANIST 10 years ago

If u think we ran out of ideas in this genre then watch Watchmen and watch Dr. Manhatten's character closely why only Manhatten's but all superheroes in that movie. you will get what i mean! also if u remember Ra.One which is not good as this, but it was original and they didnt copied as much as this movie did.. And I would like to point out-- GEE man.. Superman is not Masked Cape Crusader. xD

And above all the list they have copied/reference whatever u call, they have copied from X-men mostly, why not copy from FF as one mutant should have powers like Mr. Fantastic a.k.a. in here elastic man xD and I can just go on with the examples. also Krrish(the first one) copied the storyline of Paycheck a bit, but yes it was a bit, not unlike this installment. where whole bunch of characters are derived from X-men!

Human Mind can never run out of idea, everyone was thinking we would not have heroes after Superman & Batman. If Stan lee would have thought the same we wouldnt have seen avengers, ironman, CA, Thor, X-men, FF etc.

See TTDW has came in theaters thor is actually demigod of Greece but then The great stan lee has potrayed him in such a way that he is a superhero which saves the human kind, And yes i believe it. It could take time but For the Greater Good!

[–] kumaris64 10 years ago

also if u remember Ra.One which is not good as this, but it was original and they didnt copied as much as this movie did..

http://ash-sandbox.blogspot.com/2011/11/ra-one-one-big-copy-cat-full-l ist-of.html

http://comicbookrants.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/raone-didnt-copied/

[–] NoLANIST 10 years ago

ahaha nice find awesome but still less than krrish. BTW ra.one was *beep* :P

[–] agentphilosopher007 10 years ago

I have not seen Watchmen yet, but heard good things about it, so will check it out soon.

Masked cape crusader: Batman, Superman

You are technically right that he is not masked, in fact his face can be plainly seen, and yet he is incognito as his alter ego Clark Kent. This is obviously a big gaping hole in the Superman series but the audience simply have to suspend their disbelief and to accept that nobody can recognize Clark Kent.

Human Mind can never run out of idea, everyone was thinking we would not have heroes after Superman & Batman. If Stan lee would have thought the same we wouldnt have seen avengers, ironman, CA, Thor, X-men, FF etc.

While we certainly will not run out of original stories and plots, we will certainly run out of original story elements. Sci fi and fantasy is a genre that has been done to death in Hollywood. Everything has been done alien visitors, alien invasions, mutants, monsters, vampires, dragons, goblins, gods vs humans, superheroes, paranormal powers, time travel, parallel universes, future worlds etc.

The chances are no matter what Indian filmmakers come up with, it has already been done. This is why I suggested Indian filmmakers draw from their own unique cultural resources, because they have not been done. There are so many ideas in India's literature that can be adapted for sci fi and fantasy:

Mantras
Siddhis
Chakras, Prana, Kundalini
Divya astras
Devas vs Rakshas(similar to Thor, but can be adapted originally)#
Lokas(14 different dimensions)

There is a lot of unique philosophical themes that Indian filmmakers can draw from

Like Maya, the universe being an illusion created by the mind
Yoga, the enlightened sage who has transcended the dualities of the world

Ironically, Western filmmakers are drawing from Indian literature more than Indian filmmakers are. Many popular Hollywood sci fi's and fantasy are based on Indian philosophical themes, concepts and literature, such as Matrix, Star Wars, Avatar, The Sorcerers Apprentice. Even the LOTR trilogy is said to be inspired by the Mahabharata. Recently, Stan Lee has just created his latest comic superhero, Chakra, who uses Chakras as his powers.

Indians do not realize the value of their own literary wealth and this is why they copy constantly from the West and others. If Indians started taking more pride in their own literature we would see more original Indian films and they would be much better appreciated. Nobody appreciates an imitator.

[–] NoLANIST 10 years ago

Yeah I like ur point of... they should take ideas from those thing, it will be unique and fascinating.

Indians do not realize the value of their own literary wealth and this is why they copy constantly from the West and others. If Indians started taking more pride in their own literature we would see more original Indian films and they would be much better appreciated. Nobody appreciates an imitator.

That is so much true!
Hey I thought Aamir is planning on mahabharat, i hope he does that.

[–] NoLANIST 10 years ago

Also i would have been delighted if Roshans would have searched Marvel or DC comics, there are plenty of characters which are not shown in the movie yet, Fore.g. Psylocke, Northstar, Hope, Fantomex, Jubilee and list goes on. So we have plenty of options too.. its hard to understand why they took famous characters from the movie and they blended it... and some guys just dont understand they just took from there and presented us in different taste but that doesnt change the fact they initially copied from the movie. A girl sat beside me i think she was 14 years old saying to her mother when Kaya changes his shape and face "mumma i have seen this type of movie in hollywood, but in that movie the woman was blue". I mean when 14 year kid says that then surely movie has something which was not pleased her. just saying kaya looks like human and mystique is blue-skin mutant is not significant difference, tho kaya has some of the kitty pryde skills too xD but point is they didnt do their homework. Some comics or Some fantacy novel and they would have got their masterwork idea. But if u say hey we will copy some x-men character and represent in different way is JUST PLAIN DUMB!

[–] agentphilosopher007 10 years ago

Ahahaha xD, Magneto is not a scientist.

Well Professor X was definitely a formally educated scientist(Oxford) However, Magneto later helped Professor X in his scientific projects to build the Cereberum machine and later Magneto builds his own scientific machines such as the machine that turns ordinary humans into mutants. So Magneto is set-up as the evil counterpart of Professor X. Like Professor X, he also has his own mutant training facility and a lab.

It is actually ironic to have a character that is the fusion of Magneto and Professor X. I take your point there are definitely Magneto and Professor X(More Magneto) references in Kaal's character, but Kaal's character is sufficiently different from both to be considered original. If that was not the case, Marvel would be filing a lawsuit against the Roshans.

But I agree with you Striker was a bit of a rip-off. I am disappointed with Roshan for doing that. Kaya is also obviously inspired by Mystique. One would have to be a liar not to admit the obvious X men borrowings in Krrish 3.

I am getting an idea for how Roshan works when he makes a sci fi movie. He does his research by watching several Hollywood films and then borrows from certain ideas themes he likes Koi Mil Gaya(ET, Space Jam, Close Encounters of the Third Kind) Krrish(Batman, Matrix, Paycheck) Then fuses them together into a unique blend and Indianises it with the usual Indian movie conventions and with Indian settings. Again, I cannot really blame him due to the dearth of sci fi writing in India, but I really wished he hadn't done that. However, there are far worse directors than him for copying who not only borrow, but blatantly rip off and plagiarize(such as Vikram Bhatt, Sanjay Gupta)

[–] NoLANIST 10 years ago

He is been using his electomagnetic powers so well that he knows some certain things and also it was Beast, not Magneto, Mystique have higher IQ too in Mags clan.. Beast is the most smartest among X-men. He created Cereberum Machine single handedly. My problems with this movie is actually they took famous character if they would have created gambit, Jubliee or Psylocke like manvars then actually no body would have complained so much. Glad they didnt made a wolverine like character otherwise i would have just walked out of theatre :P

[–] sid-thor 10 years ago

For a second let's even overlook the imitation. Let's overlook the fact that Kaal's henchmen were desi versions of Sabertooth, Mystique and Toad.

The biggest problem with Bollywood making any superhero flick is that they don't define the character's strengths and weaknesses. There is no upper limit. If we go in knowing that no matter how big the villain may be the protagonist will eventually get a power upgrade seemingly randomly that'll make him stronger than the villain then we'll never get emotionally involved. One of the reasons why Superman movies generally don't do that well critically.

Rohit Mehra revived his son using magnified sunlight and apparently that somehow infused his DNA with Krishna. While that makes no sense whatsoever let's go along with it. How does that allow Krishna to fly and use Telekinesis? It makes zero sense whatsoever.I can understand it giving Krishna genius level intellect but flying and Telekinesis makes no sense.

Also how is Rohit Mehra even able to move? Isn't he just as paralyzed as Kaal was after the operation? Does he have Wolverine and Deadpool's healing ability now?

As for Kaal, apparently a man whose never moved anything apart from his neck, head and 2 fingers can simply start walking without any physiotherapy. Just wake up and stand on his feet like it's no big deal.

Then comes the final fight...

A) How did Krrish even find him? Kaal never mentioned where he was going before he killed Krrish.

B) Apparently the Indian police has premonition because the cops arrived at the statue so fast that you'd be forgiven for wondering if anyone could've even dialed '100' let alone explain what and where the problem was.

C) Random dude is chilling in his black sedan when he's just seen Kaal crush and pulverize a Police Jeep. Said Black sedan is used to create a 100 arrows and sent at Priya and her fans.

D) Krrish apparently has telekinesis now. How? God knows. He can also fly like Neo. No idea what's going on.

E) Kaal should've died in the first few blows. He's an ordinary human being with a sheet of foil wrapped around him being pounded by Krrish (a superhuman who decimated a giant boulder into dust by simplying flying kick it power ranger style only a few scenes later).

F) 7-8 floors of a building are dropped. Only 5-6 people were in that building.

G) Kaal gets stuck on a magnet and all of a sudden forgets all forms of Telekinesis and allows Krrish to pound him into oblivion.

H) So Kaal is immortal now? THE GUY WAS DEAD IT WAS THE END OF STORY WHY STRETCH IT? Oh wait... overused sunlight pen plot time.

And I'm not even going to mention the hyperactive kid who stands by Priya before the final fight. Annoying little git.