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Deserved the Best Music Award!


I personally believe Om Shanti Om deserved the award for best music in the filmfare awards.

Although Guru was good, it was inconsistent. There were two incredible songs (Tere Bina & Barso Re), and then the rest were either pretty good or mediocre.

Om Shanti Om, on the other hand had a few absolutely brilliant songs (main agar kahoon, ajab si), a number of great songs (jag soona, deewangi, dhoom tana), and maybe one or two decent/mediocre songs (dard-e-disco, dastaan-e...).

While I am a big fan of A.R. Rahman, and did certainly enjoy the music of Guru, I believe Om Shanti Om had a much better soundtrack all in all. Anyone else agree with me?

I'm not saying that Om Shanti Om should have necessarily won, just that it would have been a better choice than Guru.

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Agreed. TZP, JWM and Metro (though JWM & Metro soundtracks were plagiarized) also had better music than Guru.

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I would suggest, Thakkar1016, that you re-visit your personal opinion on the relative musical merits and demerits of Guru vs. Om Shanti Om, ten years from now. I will wager now, with a great degree of confidence, that the music of Guru will prove then to be far more superior, and durable, than the music of Om Shanti Om. A lot of the songs in Om Shanti Om are surprisingly good and pleasurable mostly because of the way they have been picturised, and not because of any intrinsic musical greatness. Wait and see -- or, more appropriately, wait and hear -- ten years from now!

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Even less than one year from then, OSO music sounds better than Guru. Guru was the most lukewarm Rahman music to date, although JTYJN is turning out to be worse due to really poor lyrics.

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Well, SRani, I respect your personal opinion but I beg to differ. And, what is more, apparently, Shreya Ghoshal, the great singer who sang in OSO, Guru, and Saawariya, is of the same opinion as me -- based on an interview I'd read. I'm definitely in great musical company (LOL)!

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IMO, Taare Zameen Par deserved the award.

I agree with SRani with the fact Guru is lukewarm, but I agree with pmathew with the fact OSO music is more enjoyable because of the picturization.

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Shreya won the award for Barso re - so of course she would think that. You may be in "great" (debatable) musical company if you want to toe the company line. I make my own choices and have my own opinions. Guru album was very thanda - and except for Ai Hairathe and Maiyya Maiyya, no track is memorable, least of all Shreya's award winning track!

I think it is the TZP music that rides on the picturization as one gets all weepy eyed at every turn. OSO music was memorable before watching the film and better after watching the film. Except for Deewangi Deewangi (All hot girls, all cool boys - WTF?) every song is extremely well done. However, it is to Farah's credit that she does not gratuitously insert songs into her films, these are situationally relevant and that is why they feel better in the film.

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I'm definitely in great musical company


What makes you such a music expert? Please enlighten us. (I mean it - how many years have you been learning/listening to Indian music?)

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I mean it - how many years have you been learning/listening to Indian music?

47 years.

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47 years.


LOL - after reading that I was going to ask if you were my dad, but I guess it was a coincidence, because from some of your later statements it's clear you couldn't possibly be.

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"LOL - after reading that I was going to ask if you were my dad, but I guess it was a coincidence,......"

So does your Dad also prefer the music of Guru over OSO? He clearly has good taste!

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So does your Dad also prefer the music of Guru over OSO? He clearly has good taste!


No, my dad has been listening to and playing Indian classical music for over 40 years. He liked Tere Bina from Guru because it stayed in one raaga the entire time (but didn't like ARR's nasal singing) but was indifferent to the rest of the album. He liked Jag Soona Lage from OSO for the powerful singing and was indifferent to the rest of the album.

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Well that's your opinion but it's 2014 now and I can listen to and enjoy all the OSO songs but guru only has 2 songs I'd listen to over and over. OSO was packed with a variety chartbusters while guru was a mixed bag.

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I also think the soundtrack of OSO was exceptionally well-done, considering the kind of film it was. But the Guru soundtrack is better in my view, simply because it much more innovative and after more than a year I still listen to every song of it (except Baazi Laga). I think OSO is much more conventional, which is not a bad thing, and there are only two songs I regularly want to listen to. Those are Ajab Si and Main Agar Kahoon; I love those. I like the other songs too, but less so. Guru's songs on the other hand are each so wonderfully unique. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ek Lo Ek Muft, Mayya Mayya, Aye Hairathe and Jaage Hai are each so beautifully composed but also so wonderfully different and work extremely well in the context of the film (Baazi Laga is as unique but I like that one less). OSO soundtrack works as good in the film as Guru's, but Guru is the soundtrack I am more attracted to listen to. Just because the music sounds more beautiful, more unique and more innovative.

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To each his own Anwar. I find Mayya Mayya and Ai Hairathe scintillating and good to listen to everyday, but the rest are meh. In fact the JA album is a bit better in overall quality as the songs have a quiet and melodious appeal.

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Haha.. indeed, each his or her own tastes. I actually find Guru a much better soundtrack than Jodhaa Akbar.

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SRani, ever considered consulting an ENT specialist about your "tin ear"? (LOL...)

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pmathew - not really. But maybe your years of listening to yourself play has effected your hearing? If it were not for the lyrics by Gulzar saab, Guru music would be quite rubbishy. It is good that ARR is setting up his conservatory to train real musicians, that keyboard feel is becoming quite repetitive. Even my favorite track Maiyya Maiyya degenerates into cacophony in the last 30 seconds with all that gadbad kahdbad stuff.

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Oh, now I get it. When it comes to appreciating good music, I am Mozart and you are Antonio Salieri's dog.

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We will never know what Mozart appreciated as he couldn't hear. But we know that we appreciate his music. Will wait to hear your compositions - tell me when they are out.

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We will never know what Mozart appreciated as he couldn't hear.

Mozart was deaf? Well, that's news to me! (Or, maybe, you just have him confused with the aged Beethoven........)

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My bad - Beethoven. But Beethoven or Mozart, we do not know what they liked - we only know we liked their music. So whoever you are (I'll even take a Salieri level composition) do tell us when your music is out for public consumption. I will wait to see how much I love it.

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So whoever you are (I'll even take a Salieri level composition) do tell us when your music is out for public consumption. I will wait to see how much I love it.

Ah, that's easy. My music is already "out for public consumption," SRani. Just check out the musical compositions of a certain Rahul Dev Burman (R. D. Burman or PanchamDa). Tell me what you think and how much you love it.

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I don't think the WWW has reached the heavens yet. Anyway, fruitless conversation in which I stated my opinion, you and others stated theirs. Adios.

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SRani, I take it the only "music" that would thoroughly satisfy you is the slurping sound of someone fellating on ShahRukh Khan's penis.

Am I right, or am I right?

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How high class and astute. I wonder if it comes from some activity you have been performing on ARR!! Experience always speaks. BTW - that kind of talk does not bother me, as dirt flung across the internet only leaves the flinger's hands dirty. Enough - you LOVE ARR, and you have stated it. SRK is not a composer - I am talking of Vishal Shekhar. And to tell you the truth when I see Shekhar - well we will not go there!

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Oh, and speaking of Vishal-Shekhar, enlighten me if you can why the legendary composer, Pyarelal, was not given any credit or acknowledgement for his "Dhoom Taana" song. That was one of the best musical pieces in the whole film. Shame on Farah and ShahRukh Khan for their shabby treatment of this great composer! A.R. Rahman was wise to choose not to compose for this film.

http://www.indiafm.com/features/2007/10/23/3163/index.html

http://www.glamsham.com/movies/scoops/07/sep/20_om_shanti_om_pyarelal_ dhoom_taana_090704.asp

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=57711043-712 2-4a94-a3dd-aea3bf5c368a&MatchID1=4698&TeamID1=2&TeamID2=5 &MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1185&PrimaryID=4698&Headline=P yarelal+to+recreate+70s+magic+in+EMOm+Shanti+Om%2fEM

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Pyarelal arranged the song to give it the 70's feel with a massive orchestra, but did not compose it, the composition of all the songs was by Vishal Shekhar. Of course he has credit - Farah talked about him all the time and he was at the OSO music release.

Rahman went on record saying he and Farah are best friends and he will likely be composing for her when the opportunity is there. Rahman got visibility in the west because of Farah;s choreography of Chaiyya Chaiyya and they worked together on Bombay Dreams. That spat was with T-series who had already bought the rights to OSO music and would not let Rahman own it. He almost had a similar spat with Spike Lee about use of Chaiyya Chaiyya until it was finally ironed out.

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Rahman got visibility in the west because of Farah;s choreography of Chaiyya Chaiyya and they worked together on Bombay Dreams.

"Rahman got visibility in the west because of Farah's choreography of Chaiyya Chaiyya"? So it had nothing to do with the music of Chaiyya Chaiyya?........What utter revisionist rubbish!

Rahman became famous in the West largely because of Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber's admiration for his music, which then resulted in Lloyd Webber producing the musical "Bomaby Dreams" based on ARR's musical compositions. (Andrew Lloyd Webber has even gone on record calling Rahman a "genius.") Incidentally, Spike Lee became a fan of the song "Chaiyya Chaiyya" after watching the musical, and not from seeing the movie Dil Se.

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Incidentally, Spike Lee became a fan of the song "Chaiyya Chaiyya" after watching the musical, and not from seeing the movie Dil Se.

Not true - a student gave him the Dil se DVD in the NYU film class he was teaching. And THAT musical also had Farah choreographing. By all accounts Bombay Dreams was quite trashy - but it works for Western audiences so who cares.

http://ibnlive.com/news/i-dont-think-remix-is-a-bad-word-ar-rahman/663 65-8-p1.html

Rajeev Masand: Originally I know, you were committed to do music for Om Shanti Om but you did not do it because you were refused the publishing rights, which is the ownership rights. I know it is common practice in the West and makes perfect sense that the person who creates the music should own the music.

AR Rahman: It is both ways. Some people buyout the music and it is transparent. The buy out is shared. But in this case, strangely we never intended to do that. At that particular time, when my company was launched, I realised the importance of having a publishing of ones own. I have reached 41 now and somewhere I felt that I have to do something for my kids and the generation and in a way to exploit our music in the west, something like an ambassador in the other country. Like recently there is a movie, The Accidental Husband, which has three of my Tamil songs. To give more scope and accessibility to my stuff, it is important. It is a little shocking in the beginning but people are getting used to it.

Rajeev Masand: Did you hear the music of OSO?

AR Rahman: Yes. I liked it. I would not have been able to do it the way it was done.

Rajeev Masand: Was it very different from what you had imagined doing it when you were committed to do it?

AR Rahman: I had a couple of meetings with Farah and we were discussing the Bombay theme and it is unfortunate that we could not work on this. But we are great friends and we will be working in future.

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You still don't get it, do you, SRani?

Regardless of whether Spike Lee first heard the song "Chaiyya Chaiyya" on the DVD of Dil Se, or from the musical Bombay Dreams -- it is irrelevant. In either case, your point, that it was Farah's choreography that impressed Spike Lee (and western audiences) and not Rahman's music, is preposterous! If Spike Lee had been so impressed with the choreography (equally if not more than the music) wouldn't he have tried to include it in his movie? Instead, he chose to play Rahman's music and nothing else!

It is A.R. Rahman's music that pulled together Farah's impressive choreography -- not the other way round! You are just foolishly putting the cart before the horse.

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Since Dil se is my all time favorite music I will say that the choreography is what got the Bombay Dreams gig - and the same choreography was used in Bombay Dreams, by the same choreographer. But without the music that choreography is nothing. If Spike liked the music then he would have picked better songs from that album - Dil se re or Ae Ajnabi or even Satrangi re - each one is musically better. So what was outstanding about Chaiyya Chaiyya? It was the combination of music, choreography, and the setting that was beautifully captured by Sivan. It was not the music alone - there were musically superior tracks in that album. That is my unbiased opinion. If Spike had some clue about the lyrics he would have picked CC - the lyrics by Gulzar are sublime, but I doubt that was a criterion for him.

And if you want a discussion in adult mode then please stop being insulting, that is childish and needlessly bogs down the issue.

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"If Spike liked the music then he would have picked better songs from that album - Dil se re or Ae Ajnabi or even Satrangi re - each one is musically better. So what was outstanding about Chaiyya Chaiyya?"

Ah hah! That is where cultural differences in musical tastes arise, my dear. Both Spike Lee and Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber were impressed with "Chaiyya Chaiyya" precisely because it holds a special appeal for the western musical sensibility. It is both accessible and exotic -- at the same time! -- to the western ear. However, like you, I prefer those other three songs you noted (which may have been too exotic for westerners) over this one.

And how was I being childish or insulting in my post. Are we getting a bit paranoid and delusional, 'ey?

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Paranoid and delusional?

You still don't get it, do you, SRani?

I would say you still don't get it! Usually that means 'being a little dim' for me, but if it is otherwise for you then you will not take offense at my statement. And why do you jump from point to point like this? So I will enumerate what has been discussed so far:

1. Farah somehow fought with ARR. Wrong as per ARR, he says they are friends and he will compose for her.

2. Pyarelal COMPOSED Dhoom Tana. Wrong as per Visha and Shekhar - they clearly state that they composed the music and Pyarelal arranged it. If they had lied then that would come out in the worst way.

3. FF or any other awards do not give diddly squat for ownership and regularly award plagiarized films, script, music.

4. Chaiyya Chaiyya is a whole package. If the choreography was not important then it would not be retained in Bombay Dreams. Spike did see the film first:
http://www.aniltj.com/blog/2006/04/04/InsideManGoesBollywood.aspx

And liked it. If he saw the film then there is no way it was all about the music because there is breathtaking choreography and picturization that goes with the song.



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"1. Farah somehow fought with ARR. Wrong as per ARR, he says they are friends and he will compose for her."

Please point to the specific post where you claim I made this ludicrous assertion.

"2. Pyarelal COMPOSED Dhoom Tana. Wrong as per Visha and Shekhar - they clearly state that they composed the music and Pyarelal arranged it. If they had lied then that would come out in the worst way."

OK. You choose to believe Vishal and Shekhar. And I choose to believe Pyarelal and my own ears. Next!

"3. FF or any other awards do not give diddly squat for ownership and regularly award plagiarized films, script, music."

And your point is? You could say the same for almost all awards with the possible exception of the Nobel Prizes.

"4. Chaiyya Chaiyya is a whole package. If the choreography was not important then it would not be retained in Bombay Dreams. Spike did see the film first:
http://www.aniltj.com/blog/2006/04/04/InsideManGoesBollywood.aspx
And liked it. If he saw the film then there is no way it was all about the music because there is breathtaking choreography and picturization that goes with the song."


Where did I ever suggest that the choreography or the breathtaking cinematography aren't important to the picturization of "Chaiyya Chaiyya"? However the MUSIC IS PARAMOUNT. And, moreover, Farah did equally stunning choreography for the "Dil Se Re" and "Satrangi Re" songs, didn't she? So how come those two songs didn't strike a chord with Spike as much as "Chaiyya Chaiyya" did?

Get it?





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Shame on Farah and ShahRukh Khan for their shabby treatment of this great composer! A.R. Rahman was wise to choose not to compose for this film.

As if he did this because of some tiff with Farah. What else did you mean by wise? ARR himself says he will compose for her and they are friends - so he would be unwise then?

OK. You choose to believe Vishal and Shekhar. And I choose to believe Pyarelal and my own ears. Next!

Pyarelal said he composed the music? I'd like to see written proof of that, preferably an interview and not some gossip rag. I believe my eyes and when Pyarelal shown up for the ending credits in the film then he is credited.

And your point is? You could say the same for almost all awards with the possible exception of the Nobel Prizes.

It would help if you kept track of your own posts - otherwise this will get even more tedious than it already is.

Where did I ever suggest that the choreography or the breathtaking cinematography aren't important to the picturization of "Chaiyya Chaiyya"? However the MUSIC IS PARAMOUNT.

LOL! The choreography is the most breathtaking for Chaiyya Chaiyya. That is not my opinion but the general opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaiyya_Chaiyya

The song was composed by film composer A. R. Rahman. It became popular quickly upon release and its music video gained the same status, partly because it was filmed on a moving train.

It is also featured in the opening of the second act of the musical Bombay Dreams, in which the train sequence from Dil Se is recreated on stage.
he video was filmed on top of the Ooty train in mountainous southern India while actor Shahrukh Khan dances with model/ actress Malaika Arora and other dancers. The cinematography of the film was handled by Santosh Sivan.

The choreography by Farah Khan is considered among the most difficult ever done; a few dancers sustained minor injuries.


And, moreover, Farah did equally stunning choreography for the "Dil Se Re" and "Satrangi Re" songs, didn't she? So how come those two songs didn't strike a chord with Spike as much as "Chaiyya Chaiyya" did?

Because they did not merit individual pages on the Wikipedia - they did not have as stunning choreography or cinematography.

GET IT????

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I give up, SRani. Logic is not your forte, is it? You've clearly demonstrated that.

BTW, if you think Spike Lee chose "Chaiyya Chaiyya" because of some glowing report in WANKIpedia -- sorry, Wikipedia -- you need to have your head examined. ROFLMAO!

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Crudity gain? And insults? The resort of the helpless! No - rather Wikipedia might have showcased CC after Spike picked it, that and the fact that it was on other bests lists.

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OK, here goes, SRani -- one last time!

You claim that Farah's choreography (or Sivan's cinematography, for that matter) is integral to the greatness of the "Chaiyya Chaiyya" song. Well, then, take a look here at Farah and Deepika Padukone thoroughly enjoying the song without any of those extraneous trappings. This is a clip from the Sa Re Ga Ma Pa singing competition with one of its contestants, Raja Hindustani, singing ShahRukh Khan's choice ("Chaiyya Chaiyya"):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xYKHLEdY4

You don't see any moving train with dancers on top, for this performance, do you? And yet, Farah and Deepika seem to be greatly enjoying Raja's rendition. It is the song alone that captivates them and I wish you could enjoy the song as much as they do.

Next, here's Sukwinder Singh performing a superb version of "Thayya Thayya" at the Tsunami Relief Concert. ("Thayya Thayya" is the great Punjabi original of the song which A. R. Rahman borrowed and improvised upon). Again, at this concert, you don't see any moving trains or any of Farah's wonderful choreography, do you? It's just Sukwinder singing the song -- alone with his mike and a band. And the audience seems to love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bJoqxphcvo

Enjoy! CASE CLOSED!

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You must be quite simple minded to imagine that enjoying a song means the mind had shut itself to the imagery of the original. Silly boy - that is why songs that are integral to a film and well picturized become hits - they invoke an imagery. Later enjoyment comes with the imagery of the original in mind. I am sure Farah was visualizing her choreography in her head! Of course she will enjoy that song - it has her stamp all over it for ever. Thaiyya Thaiyya is a different kettle of fish - with its sufi roots, indeed borrowed - so who are we crediting here? Was Thaiyya Thaiyya in the film? I saw Sukhvinder sing a fusion of Chaiyya Chaiyya/Tahiyya live and on a back screen guess what the visuals were? Yes there was a train - that same one. The 30 thousand off folks in the audience loved it!

CASE CLOSED due to absence of evidence!

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"I am sure Farah was visualizing her choreography in her head!"

LOL! Oh, now you have the power to get into Farah's head, and you know what she was visualizing while listening to the song?........

Tell us, SRani, which "funny farm" are you posting from? Perhaps they need to increase your medication.....

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Insults again? No response to the absence of evidence? OK then.

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"Pyarelal arranged the song to give it the 70's feel with a massive orchestra, but did not compose it, the composition of all the songs was by Vishal Shekhar. Of course he has credit - Farah talked about him all the time and he was at the OSO music release."

Well, you and Vishal-Shekhar can spin it any way you like. But there are other accounts of what actually happened.

http://content.msn.co.in/Entertainment/Bollywood/BollywoodHinT_151107_ 1100.htm

Director Farah Khan couldn't find anyone better than the yesteryear composer Pyarelal to do justice to 'Om Shanti Om's music.


Though Vishal-Shekhar are credited for the album, Pyarelal has guest composed the Dhoom tana number.


Pyarelal last composed for 'Deewana Mastana' (1997). He had stopped composing after the death of his partner Laxmikant.


'Om Shanti Om' inspired by Subhash Ghai's 'Karz', derives its name from one of the songs in the film, the music of which was also composed by Laxmikant-Pyarelal.

"I wasn't too keen at the outset. Farah requested me to do a song to pay a tribute to the music of the '70s and the '80s. I agreed because my wife and daughter wanted me to return to music," states Pyarelal. Quite traditional The song was recorded with a 150-member-orchestra with traditional instruments like drums, tabla, dholak, dafli and madal, which were a trademark of the L-P duo.


"I have used more than 40 different percussion instruments to make the song as grand as I could," he remarks. The composer stuck to traditional ‘live' instruments instead of depending on electronica.


Pyarelal was initially approached for three songs. But he chose to do only one.


http://www.cinefundas.com/2008/04/08/pyarelal-gets-no-pyar-on-his-hard -work/

Pyarelal gets no pyar on his hard work
April 8, 2008

Veteran and lilting music composer of yesteryear Pyarelal one of the closest duo of late Lakshmikanth feels OSO team gave him a raw deal

The immensely talented composer Pyarelal Ramprasad Sharma of the famous music-director duo Laxmikant-Pyarelal is pretty pissed off with the music industry these days. The man behind the music of classics like "Satyam Shivam Sundaramâ"˜ and "Ek Duje Ke Liye" feels like he's been given the short, sharp end of the stick.

Well, it all started when the scoop picked up scent of how the composer was called on by Farah Khan and Vishal-Shekhar to collaborate on the score for their Diwali dhamaka "Om Shanti Om." After all, it was Laxmikant-Pyarelal who had given the hit music for "Karz," the inspiration behind OSO, way back in 1980.

So when "Dard-E-Dil" was changed to "Dard-E-Disco," the nation might've loved every move and groove, but Pyarelal was not at all impressed! After all his hard work, there was no mention of his contribution in any of the film's promotion and publicity. Not even in any of the credits for the songs in the album's CDs when in fact, he had been asked to compose three songs, including the theme music for "Om Shanti Om."

First, Farah and SRK miffed veteran actor Manoj Kumar making fun of him in the film. When he went with his complaints to the media, they were forced to extend the olive branch. Mr Bharat cooled down, only after a series of apologies from SRK and Farah's side!

Now, ‘team OSO-is that the way to treat industry veterans’? Someday you guys will be all old and wrinkled, and then it'll be you getting the shaft -ever thought of that? Time flies pretty fast and the day isn't that far either!


http://www.b4utv.com/showtime/newsbreak/070920pyarelal.shtml

Pyarelal's name omitted


Its a mistake both Farah Khan and Vishal-Shekhar admit and are apologetic about. Farah had approached Pyarelal to give a 70s touch to the music of her film Om Shanti Om. He obliged. But during the launch when Farah learnt that his name was ommited from the credit list she was aghast.

Both have apologised and promised to rectify the mistake in the second lot.


http://indyarocks.com/movieplex/Plans-to-include-original-songs-of-Kar z-scrapped-News-Gossip-1662

It looks like Himesh has decided to forge his individual identity completely separate from all the other singers, actors and singing actors who have come and gaan, A decision has been taken to do away with the entire music score of Subhash Ghai's Karz and substitute it with a swanky new score in Himesh's Karzzzz.

Apparently, the decision to do away with the L-P factor in Himesh's aspirations as an actor comes from the veteran composer Pyarelal's unhappiness over the way his contribution to the music of Om Shanti Om was treated.

Says a hurt and angry Pyarelal, "Though I was initially reluctant, Vishal-Shekhar and Farah Khan were insistent. So I relented. Finally, after all my hard work there was no mention of my contribution in any of the film's promotion and publicity. Not even in any of the credits for the songs in the album's CDs when in fact I had been asked to compose three songs including the theme music for Om Shanti Om."

This experience has definitely soured Pyarelal towards the film industry. "It's an industry I don't understand any more," says Pyarelal sadly.

The decision to keep the chartbusting songs from Subhash Ghai's Karz completely out of Himesh's version of the story decidedly has its echoes in the way one-half of the legendary Laxmikant-Pyarelal has been treated during his comeback. Though Himesh maintains his tightlipped diplomatic stance, the neo-Karzzzz director, Satish Kaushik, is more forthcoming. "We did plan to include some songs from Subhash Ghai's Karz by Laxmikant-Pyarelalji. But then things started changing once we started shooting. The original Karz doesn't have a title song. But Himesh has sung and composed a fabulous title song 'Ishq Mere Tere Karz'. Himesh loves Rafi Saab's 'Dard-e-Dil' and had the situation for our film. But then Himesh created an entirely new track in place of 'Dard-e-Dil'."

Could the fact that the Karz song 'Dard-e-Dil' has already been parodied as 'Dard-e-Disco' in Om Shanti Om have something to do with the decision to do away with the original song situation in the new millennium Karz?



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Spin? Isn't this what you posted?

http://www.b4utv.com/showtime/newsbreak/070920pyarelal.shtml

Pyarelal's name omitted


Its a mistake both Farah Khan and Vishal-Shekhar admit and are apologetic about. Farah had approached Pyarelal to give a 70s touch to the music of her film Om Shanti Om. He obliged. But during the launch when Farah learnt that his name was ommited from the credit list she was aghast.

Both have apologised and promised to rectify the mistake in the second lot.

http://www.naachgaana.com/2007/05/24/oso-vishal-dadlani/
Let bygones be bygones. What’s coming up next from the musician duo sounds big! Vishal Dadlani describes Farah Khan’s Om Shanti Om as a phenomenal film with great energy. “The songs are deeply attached with the film. There is a timeline in the film so the music moves with that. And the music is fun. There are songs which you can dance to and songs which have beautiful melodies. There is a huge range of music. There is an orchestral track recorded with a live orchestra too.”

Isn’t this orchestra track composed by Pyarelal of the famous Laxmikant-Pyarelal duo as is the buzz in the media circles? “Pyarelal hasn’t composed the track”, clarifies Vishal. “He has just arranged for the track. It’s a big honour for all of us. But there are some people who are misreporting that he has composed the song. He has done a phenomenal job. You won’t believe he had almost 150 musicians on it and all live. It was like those old days”.

But why did they think of getting Pyarelal on board? Is this because the film is set in the late 70s, an era when Laxmikant-Pyarelal were the most popular composer in the industry? Or is it because the film has some connection with the film Karz that released in 1980? In fact the title of the film ‘Om Shanti Om’ happens to be a chartbuster song from Karz composed by Laxmikant-Pyarelal. Vishal doesn’t deny the connection. “For one particular song in Om Shanti Om, Farah had given us references of a Laxmikant Pyarelal track. But getting that sound right was an intense process because there is so much involved to it. The stuff they used to do was unbelievable and it’s not done anymore. Now it’s all electronic and you add a few lines. But in those days every single note in the music used to be live. Nothing was sequenced. And that’s what gave that huge organic sound. So we thought why not go straight to the source.”

And how did they convince Pyarelal to make a comeback to the music scenario after he went on a self-imposed exile since the demise of his partner Laxmikant? “What happened was that Pyarelal had come in Yashraj Studio. So I told Farah should I just go and ask him and she said lets try. So Shekhar and I went and we literally sat with him and asked him if he could arrange a song for us. He refused saying he wasn’t interested. So we just told him about all the stuff that we loved and all the stuff that we admired him for. He also saw our work and liked it and felt that it wasn’t just a publicity gimmick to have him on board. So finally after much thinking he agreed.”


http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/hindi/article/32899.html

Pyarelal, Vishal and Shekhar face camera for OM SHANTI OM
Joginder Tuteja, IndiaGlitz [Thursday, August 09, 2007]

When the entire cast and crew comes together in the end credit title roll number for Farah Khan's OM SHANTI OM, how could the men behind the music of the film be left behind?

Informs Vishal Dadlani of the Vishal-Shekhar duo, "Shekhar and myself have made a brief appearance in this specially created video. Not just us, even Pyarelalji has faced the camera for the song. It has been so sweet of him to have done this for OM SHANTI OM. First he consented to arrange one of the songs in the film and now he has even appeared in the video. Unfortunately we don't share the same frame as his in the video."

Now that they have seen the veteran musician from close quarters, how good is he as an actor? Laughs Vishal, "Come on, he is a legend. Such questions are irrelevant. We have great respect for the man and we would always remember the contribution he has made to our song."


So he shows up in the film credits and that is credit is it not?

How far things have strayed - from Farah and Rahman at loggerheads to Pyarelal. What exactly is the point of this discussion?

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"How far things have strayed - from Farah and Rahman at loggerheads to Pyarelal. What exactly is the point of this discussion?"

The point of this discussion has to do with the topic raised by the OP. The original poster opines that OSO should have gotten the best music award over Guru. But the Pyarelal story illustrates that there is sufficient controversy over the true identity of the composer(s) of the OSO soundtrack. This controversy alone would have given pause to judges of the Filmfare and Star Screen Awards from awarding a prize to OSO, even if they'd wanted to. At least with Guru, there is no murk or mystery surrounding the true identity of its composer.

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There is no murk surrounding who composed the music of OSO. And if they were so worried about the claims to ownership they would not award Life in a Metro for the best screenplay - LMAO at that! Or consider Pritam the plagiarizer for his music of JWM (or any other film for that matter) - Mauja hi Mauja as the best track - what the fish?

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according to me,as a music album,Taare zameen par is the best in bollywood since Maachis...but there are many things contributing to it...especially the lyrics..so many wonderfully written songs in a single movie,is something which had been almost forgotten in Bollywood

I dont think any of the songs in Om shanti om would be remembered an year later..jag soona soona laage is good due to its singers though...guru is better than oso,but TZP was the best...it would have been a shame had OSO won thebest music award

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Here's a clip of A. R. Rahman winning his two awards, and Shreya Ghoshal winning her award, for Guru at the Filmfare Awards ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9uAN2IleIw&feature=related

And here's Shreya taking the awards for "Guru" at the Star Screen Awards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q7vLqemc0w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iueLKeXPtYY

Shreya is soooo sweet! Shreya, will you please marry me? LOL!

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i think oso deserved it. i even found the soundtrack of ddlj better than rangeela.

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I dunno..

as much as I liked OSO music [only two songs were well written and composed --main agar kahoo, and ajab si], the Guru album can't be compared with. All the songs were amazing -favorite one being Barso Re.

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I disagree.

Anwar did.

"There. There."

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"Anwar did"

I agree! Anwar music was sooosooo good, film was great too.

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Some people just like sucking up to ARR and then then some try to go with the thinking that since OSO is commercial and Guru more serous, guru should get it - if you get what I mean.

Anyways screw awards when OSO's soundtrack was loved by everyone

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