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Ok so ive just been watching the trailer and i have to say
ive had enuf
i no ther are stereotypes of evry1 all around the world
but come on!!
lol
im british and i dnt no a single that plays lacrosse
yet in almost all the movies where there is a british person or a british boarding school they have lacrosse---its stupid i mean there may be some people that play it but the most common sport is football or netball or rugby
i dont get it!!! lol
and the accents OMG!! if there real they must be from down south but i mean come on
lets have some real accents---manchester, bolton, newcastle, i mean jesus!!!
i mean im british and ive never been to london!!! but i now people hu ust 2 live there, and there accents werent that posh or to be honest there like a sayin type thing
that people in london just never smile--i dnt gt it either
neways
i just wishd theyd stop sterotyping us---we dnt make many movies---all we seem 2 have i harry potter and thats gttin old!!!
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neways ive fini with ma rant now sorry

cnt w8 4 this movie tho!!!!! WOOP!!!

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yeah, sorry, i type to fast and i never check
bsides i was just text typin soz
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well i think the whole point of the film is that she goes to a proper english boarding school so therefore people do speak with 'posh' accents and play lacrosse, the idea of the movie would be completely different otherwise. If it didn't matter what the school was like then maybe it would be a bit stereotypical but its not, its meant to be a boarding school where this kind of behaviour is normal.

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maybe, but i dont know any boarding schools like that
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Most people who went to school in London speek with a Rude Boy accent, and I don't think this film is set in London but somwere in the rural countryside.

Blaime working title the production companie are finace buy paramount who are American so working title have to make films that will appeal to americans. Also paramount own most of the UK film distribution so if you want your film to get a proper showing the UK then you have to such up to them and finaly Americans can't even understand a posh stereotype english accent even that Asian girl in ER who is from Liecster had to change her accent to some posh one, so as for proper northan accents they would be bemused.

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i dnt no many londoners that speak with that accent--but ther probs r a few--im from manchester so my accents rubbish lol
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I agree, im fed up a bit of the stereotypical sh!t too, it's either posh or cockney, and i don't know any boarding schools like that nowadays either, and lacross? *beep* off, maybe bloody years ago, but not now, christ. Why can't they just have a range of British Accents rather than the typical 'posh, bland looking pale, nerdy, intelligent geek type people' it's so bloody irritating. Lol, i'll still watch it though.

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lol THANKYOU!!
i dont know a single soul that plays lacrosse or howeva u spel it--
same im stil watchin it tho
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woah woah...
yeah the u.s. people stereotype the British for being 'proper'.
but if there is any country that exploits the stereotypes of another country more than anyone else (in the films) its the BRITISH! i don't watch too many british films but in almost everyone i've watched they're either mocking or making fun of the 'americans' about how stupid and materialistic and brain-dead they are. look at sasha cohen! have you seen death at a funeral? i even got some of the sly humor in alex rider about americans.
the british really highlight the horrible reputation the U.S. has gained over past few years

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nah i dnt really mean the stereotyping--i understand that and stuff evry1 has a stereotype
cant b helped
but the lacrosse and those naff accents---its a bit....too much sometimes
i have an american teacher and he sed wen he came over to england he was a bit shocked by some of the things he heard coz americans dont really here all our news--but we can b quite violent and he was quite shocked haha
i just wish theyd also stop using places like london and birmingham for movies--use manchester or newcastle--somewhere more REAL!!!
haha
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Hey. I get what your saying but I think the point is that it's supposed to be an old-fashioned traditional boarding school in the country.
To be honest, this sort of boarding school is really expensive and often old traditional British families with a load of money will send their kids there (hence the British accents).
Please don't get offended by anything - I'm just saying why it's mostly these sort of stereotypical British girls in the school. And the accents are real (hard though it may be to belive!).
Anyway, just saying that schools like this really do exist and that the girls really can be like this! =P
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lol yeah i spose
i no the girls r like this
haha
were all evil mwahaha
ahem
yeah the accents r so naff tho lol
but lacrosse?!? really
oh well looks like a gurd movie neway
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i just wish theyd also stop using places like london and birmingham for movies--use manchester or newcastle--somewhere more REAL!!!
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what did you mean by that have you been to hackney

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to o/p i was born and raised in london, and i have a 'posh' accent, my dad was raised in london and he has a cockney accent

a third of the girls that went to my skl had a posh accent and a third had a cockney accent - it does happen

but i totally agree with u on the sport thing tho

sijuahmed dude i totally agree with u, i used to live there its real as and probably more interesting then most of the places used in 'British movies'

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Lacrosse is very popular in American boarding schools. I have a feeling that they just tried to think of a "posh" game and lacrosse was the one they came up with. Almost all expensive American private schools have a lacrosse team.

As for the accents... of course they're Yahs, they're going to a super expensive boarding school, and though I'm sure that these days there is a variety of people attending those sorts of schools, the Yahs still dominate, and so Queens English will dominate as well. Are you seriously looking for an accurate depiction of England in a frothy teen movie with Emma Roberts in it?

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Erm ok. Have you ever seen an American film? I could name dozens just off the top of my head, where the American is the brave, strong, handsome hero and the villain is, of course, English and snobby. Or German. Or Russian. Or French. Completely steriotypical, and inaccurate.

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hey, hey, hey tomatoepotatoe4!!! The British make films bout working class troubles like Trainspotting, Vera Drake and East is East etc. They hardly ever feature Americans and yeah, if they do it's as the bad guy. But that's mostly in retaliation to how they portray us. We are only ever the baddie or the stupid sidekick. All Disney films do this, Aladin, The Lion King etc. Tbh Americans live up to how we portray them far better than we live up to how Americans portray us. The US has gained that reputation not entirely by accident! Just go on youtube and look at how many videos there are bout stupid, ignorant, close minded Americans and you'll see how they gained this horrible reputation.I heard there was an expression there that went something like, 'If it didn't happen here, it didn't happen'. Well, the US has certainly proven that belief over the years. Actually i think that phrase should go, 'If it didn't happen in one of the rich White states here, it didn't happen'

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Oh please! 'kittymoul', a few little points..
Yes there are schools like that still in existence, although it's obvious you've never been near one.
Yes, people do still play lacrosse (that has an E on the end of it, by the way), fairly often, but again it's played at good schools where they actually do speak properly with 'posh' accents.
Re. the accents, the point is that she gets sent to a good school, her father obviously having a lot of money and therefore able to send her to a halfway decent one. What you will notice, however, is that not all the girls do have the typical 'posh' accent - note the Kimberley Nixon who plays Kate comes from Bristol and does not have one, and for God's sake, some of them are broad Scots, and Linzey Cocker who plays Josie is Mancunian!
And pleeeeeeeeeease can people learn to spell and / or type properly around here??!!!

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Rude Boy accent. ha ha, funny stuff. :)

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Yeh - but you've never been to London. You can't know much if your grammar and spelling is crap and you haven't been south.

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did you go to boarding school?

i did, and quite a few schools we visited played lacrosse.

the girls in the film dont have posh accents (except the sterotype head girl), they just dont have strong chavvy or scouse accents, they just talk normally.

i thought the film was ok, we have done many of the things featured! singing angels in a group, i think every boarding school girl has done that at least once!!

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although the vast population do not play lacrosse or go to 'posh' boarding schools there are still some that do - including myself. You aren't likely to find many boarding schools in London, but try the surrey area and you will find quite a few stereotypical boarding schools, but yes the film makes this situation seem very common throughout England which it isnt. Looking at the trailer however i can conferm that boarding school isnt all like that...and nor is lacrosse, eiter way i still can't wait for the movie to be released, especially seeing that me and my friends were going to be in the lacrosse scenes although it was filmed n the holidays and none of use could make it.
Can't wait..xx

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I agree with anjulis...I live in Surrey, and around here there are many private schools with a vast majority being boarding schools too (I myself go to one). Lacrosse is played, although the sporting focus is more on netball, hockey and tennis...lacrosse is becoming an archaeic sport.
Also, I'd say about 2% speak with impeccable Queen's English accents as you'd see in the film, the typical British stereotype...but the rest just speak normally, with no particular accent - however it's Hollywood, so it's obviously going to be played up a bit.

The thing I hate about these films though, is that they portray all-girls boarding schools as awfully strict, with every student being some sort of anally-retentive geek. It's not like that at all...we're just the same as your average institution of secondary education, except we're perhaps a little more polite, with more ambitions and career prospects and the education is better than the average comprehensive (state school). Furthermore, the public school kids, in my experience, are much more into socialising and partying, getting drunk and fooling about than any state school kids i've hung out with...yes, there's more money to throw around but they are by no means prissy, stuck up or prudish which is what these films tend to suggest. Just giving everyone a little reality check there.

Still, it is amusing to see how Hollywood portrays the 'typical British all-girls boarding school', which is why I'm going to watch this film. It looks quite fun and lighthearted, shame Alex Pettyfer has to be in it (I'm not fond of him, I've met him at a few parties and he's a bit of an arrogant prick!! Don't like the idea of paying the cinema £6 towards his paycheck...but hey).

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giveitsomeblonde- I know what you mean, that all the English girls are going to be really stuck up with the American girl, but eventually she shows them how to live and they all become friends. The teachers will be in exasperation of this American girl who's come and woken all the English girls up. :P

In truth, we had an American girl come to stay at our school for a bit and everyone was really great friends straight away. I think British and Americans are fascinated at meeting each other and there would really be no snobbery from either side.

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I understand your points, but I'm upset that you think people who dont have enough money to go to some boarding school in Surrey dont have the same drive as 'rich kids'.
I go to a 'public' school, and just because I'm not as rich as some people doesn't mean I'm not as smart as them! It also doesn't mean I'm not as polite as them. I have ambitions of my own, and I know some extremely smart people that have gone to some pretty horrendous schools that are now attending Oxford and Cambridge. They just had to work hard to achieve their dreams. You could also look at it in reverse - there are some rich people who have gone to some of the best insitutions in England and are STILL complete idiots who now spend all their parents money on silly parties and bags that cost £60,000. Id like to state clearly Im not talking about every privately schooled child. Of course a large majority are bright, and well behaved, and work equally as hard as those with a public education.
And in turn I understand you arent talking about EVERY public schooled person.
But I'm still offended you think I'm 'more into into socialising and partying, getting drunk and fooling around.'
Some people may have better opportunities in life, but that dosent mean the people without those opportunities dont have career prospects. They just have to create those opporunities themselves.


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I completely agree with you,wicklexpickle
I,too go to a public school and i bet i have better manners than half of those rich kids at private schools!
There is no way i'd ever get smashed or throw a party and trash the house because i have morals and i respect my parents.
I just think its really unfair that some people have a better start in life just because their parents are loaded.
Just look at my super sweet sixteen uk
I guarantee that all of those spoilt,selfish little brats go to private schools,and look how they turned out!

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Just because private schools cost, and state doesn't, doesn't mean that everyone is compleatly loaded. I've gone to a private my entire life, and, while everyone's well off, not everyone is a millionaire.
And what about people on bursaries?

But none of us are swanning around in limos and spending £3000 on lipgloss. My Super Sweet Sixteen UK is compleatly done for the cameras, and all of the people on in it are chavs or neds who just want to be on TV. I doubt they all go to private schools.

Are you insinuating that those who go to privates have no morals and don't respect their parents? I'm sure thats not how you meant it to come out, but if it was, that's as bloody sterotypical as it gets. Yes, some people are compleatly mad like that, but personally I've never met one.

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Let me get this straight, is this movie deserves to be negatively criticized by Brits so much just because it's stereotypical? So many people arguing about lacrosse,posh British accents and so forth. Does people even WATCH & APPRECIATE movies these days? Most of you argued so much that the true meaning("heart") of the movie is totally neglected. The movie is about a self-minded, arrogant, rich american wild child brat, sent by her dad to an England boarding school. Throughout the course of the movie, she learned how to respect people, blend in or mix with people from different culture, find her true self and get some true friends. That's the whole point and the essential core of the movie, why everyone keeps arguing on nonsense matters anyway and for so long? Actually, instead of being obsessed in putting blames in American, try to learn something or anything you think is right and can be implemented in real life. Sorry to say this, but you guys are just immature...

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I wasnt even criticizing the film!!
If you BOTHERED to read my post, you'd see I wasn't talking about stereotyping at all.
I was replying to a poster who highly offended me by saying that since I dont go to private school, I dont have any morals or career prospects. I have to work hard because I go to a pretty tough school, and her saying that I dont respect my parents because I have less money than her made me extremely angry. I also said that I KNOW it doesnt apply to every school.
I WASNT being nasty about the film AT ALL.
I loved the film.
And not ONCE did I ever complain about AMERICAN STEREOTYPING.
I complained about her behaviour towards those that are public schooled.

I too hate people being over sensitive about this film.
But Im so SORRY if my standing up for myself offended you :/

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Thank you wicklexpickle! Giveitsomeblonde's post actually offended me! I too went to a 'public' school and am perfectly polite and have plenty of ambitions. Just because my parents couldn't afford to send me to private school, and in fact wouldn't have done even if they were, does not mean I do not have dreams. If anything it is more of an achievement for someone from a 'public' school to be a success, they do not have the advantages of a boarding school child - and that's not to say that a boarding school child is more personally qualified academically or in any other way to go to Oxford/Cambridge or whatever else they want to do, but that the name of the school will work in their favour, and there is also family names etc which can be a factor. And, I don't want to generalise here, but I probably have more of a grip on life having been through school with a whole range of people from a whole range of backgrounds. If a child is going to succeed they will succeed wherever they go to school.

As for the point in question, the stereotype really bothers me too. I realise that there is a certain comical value it is supposed to bring in this film, but its not just that, it is that this is how Americans always expect us to be. Any British character in any American film/tv show/etc is some prissy, upper class British Rah. British actors/actresses quite frequently develop these accents to fit the stereotype. Even British actresses portraying Brits in US productions put on these fake 'upper class', 'posh' accents because it is what is expected. As a Northerner the issue isn't even that they are all southern characters, I could deal with that more if it wasn't for the horridly 'posh'ness of it all!

I hate the British stereotype. I don't know, maybe I would feel different about it if that was who I was, but I never see a British character that represents me or anyone I know, I cannot relate to them.



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one little thing...and i know it doesnt really make sense cause in america state schools are called public schools....but actually schools such as eton and stowe and many other private schools throughout the country are actually referred to as public schools, whereas non-fee paying schools are state, not public...just so you know...

on a very different point...not aimed at anyone in particular...lots of schools play lax! We even had those crappy wooden sticks until year 10....

bur i do think the movie is crap...not nearly as good as st trinians, which was itself hardly oscar worthy...
what the hell was up with the honour court thing?...i mean really, just ridiculous....

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Good God "Giveitsomeblonde" have you heard yourself, "except we're perhaps a little more polite, with more ambitions and career prospects " The school system teaches you, that there are fewer ceilings for privately educated children. This allows for greater ambition and better career prospects. One point you are correct on, in your world there is more money to throw around and if you fall foul of the law, for the "working classes" this is criminal, for the "public school classes" I believe the term is hi-jinx.

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I've seen this movie its actually a good movie. but I can't believe there releasing it sooo much later after they did in Europe. hmm weird.

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There is a Lancashire actress in it - Linzey Cocker. Discuss.

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I don't go to boarding school and I play lacrosse at my school. And I know of boarding schools that play lacrosse.

And the movie's point is to kind of make fun of boarding schools. So it obviously doesn't represent the large majority of English people at all.

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Basically, this film is a typical 'Hollywood' made film. I'm from england and everyone knows that the UK film council is failing miserably. Wild Child is made by Working Title which is an english production company which is linked with Universal Pictures. Which makes it obvious that they will make any english characters stereotypical; tea, posh accents, horrid school uniform, private education, old teachers and no technology it seems oh and never smiling. It isn't the case but thats what entertains people... thats what the americans want to see which is where all the money comes from. If the Americans want to see what the english are really like maybe it would be an idea to watch something like 'This is England' or something.

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lol have you not been to a British all girls boarding school before? this movie is a hilarious exaggeration of the sterotypes of british all girls boarding schools, i went to one like it, check out Queen Annes school lol!
I know that sterotypes are annoying but its just exaggerating them like it does for americans in mean girls. Hopefully Amercicans wont take it TOO seriously

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The building it was filmed in is actually a boarding school and i WENT there, its called Cobham Hall its in Kent, and yes it WAS pretty posh, people do have posh Southern accents, obviously its over-exaggerated for the Americans who think we're all so quaint. We played rounders, hockey, netball but not lacrosse!

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As far as national stereotypes go, I think the British have one of the best...if only we were all like this! :D

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I have the accent from the film lol
many of my friends speak with that accent as well..
and i go to an all girls school in London.
I guess they chose London as the main filming place because it is one of the worlds best cities.
and you cant deny the fact that most Americans wont have even heard of Manchester or Newcastle.
And be realistic about this. The film would be boring if she went to a school that acted common and plain, the very British and the poshness just kinda makes the film more interesting and humorous.
i have many american friends that i speak to over the phone. They adore my accent and so do i adore theres. They seem to already have a picture in their heads that british people drink tea alot and act all posh. with posh everything and big masions. So it was already in their heads anyway.
Just be real and down to earth about this film.

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to be fair im from down in the south an the accents are like tht and we play lacrosse at my college which is a boarding college as well as having day students
its not entirely made up in the film i'd say its fairly accurate

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Ironically, Birmingham is actually the second city.

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I'm British and I've never even heard of lacrosse. In fact, right now I had to look up to blondewidbrain's post to remember what it was called!

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I know we shouldn't really give up our spare time to rant on this; however this really has annoyed me.
I'm not from London, i live in the country. I didn't go to boarding school myself but we visited Eton college on school trips and we're friends with girls who did go to boarding school.

My first issue is the over done posh accent.
Why do the american's do it?
Their not that posh, they're generally well spoken but not to that extent its all a bit fake!

Lacrosse makes me laugh, who actually plays it? It's Netball, Field Hockey, Gymnastics and if the school is THAT posh they'd do horseback riding too.


I really suggest American producers/scriptwriters do some actual research in English Boarding School backgrounds, because to be honest its an actual piss-take how we can only either be Snobs or Cockney.

There are more places than London!!!

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I understand the arguments against stereotyping - its a pain in the arse. I've seen films where we're meant to believe there's a mansion in central London with a red bus driving right outside. It is a ridiculous american attitude.

However, in the film's defence:
- Nearly the whole cast is English! It's not like they're putting on fake bad accents. That's how the actors talk!
- The idea behind the school is that it's set in an exclusive private school. I'm sorry, but the liklihood is that they will have 'posh' acccents anyway.
- Also, I had to say something about this issue with lacrosse! My secondry education was spent in two private schools and in both lacrosse was the top sport. I loved it. It is really not that unusual and certainly not a sign that "if the school is THAT posh they'd do horseback riding too"
- On that note, it may also be important to point out that lacrosse (albeit with slight differences) is a very popular sport in America and therefore probably gives American audiences something to relate to.

Just throwing that out there

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Is there NO ONE else in England who actually enjoys the English stereo-type?
I live in Brighton but, unlike all my mates, I have a really posh voice... Probably due to the fact that whenever I went to stay with my granparents they would suffocate my southern accent and ensure I didn't use "like" if it wasn't needed.
But to be honest, if I knew how to play Lacrosse or Polo and actually went to a Girls Boarding School I'd milk it for all its worth! Buy yourself a title over the internet, dress up a bit when you go out and you've got instant access to VIP suites in clubs, First Class on planes and it sure helps if its down on your resume! (Of course it's not guaranteed, but you know what I mean.)
I just don't understand why people get so angry about how we're all classified as posh. We have the Queen, of course we're considered posh! Just calm down and embrace it, it's not a bad thing! I'd rather have the English stereo-type than the American one which seems to basically be selfish, spoilt and immature...

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i go to a private school in Scotland and we always play lacrosse. most of the people have really posh accents, but i thinks thats becuase most of them are from South England.

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