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Do Americans never learn?


I am yet to see this film, but judging by the trailer it is extremely stereotypical. When the dad says "You're going to boarding school in ENGLAND" (By the way, England isn't actually a country)- I guess the American viewer is supossed to think "England = crap weather, posh, reserved people who all speak like the Queen"? And the whole trailer in general seems to be full of the image that British people all talk like the Queen and are extremely reserved.

So, it seems to me, the whole premise of this film is, British people are reserved, posh and leave boring lives lead by up-tight social conventions, no technology in school - only black boards, strict codeof uniform, until the sophisticated American comes along and they all go "wild" and are set free? To be honest, you're more likely to find strict social conventions, and "posh" behaviour, and archaic equiptment in some American boarding schools. The upper-class in Britian died out in the 50s. I wish the UK would make some films which made use of the stereotypical American.

If you really want to know what England's like, This Is England, as has already been suggested, is actually a good dipiction of British youth culture and what has influenced it.

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i've seen the film and i compleatly agree. I enjoyed the film lots, but every single car was vintage, and when the girls got the bus into town it was one of those routmasters, but the ones which are only used for tourguides. The school hadc omputers but that was the only thing that suggested it was part of the 21st century.

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As i said, despite the film i still liked it, and i hope i don't spoil the film for anyone but Poppy doesn't really turn the school around, the girls at the school help to change her, even though she does influence them slightly.

I thought angus, thongs and perfect snogging showed more what teenage britain was like, even though some of the slang used was ridiculously embarassing

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as an American, i apologize. here in the u.s. stereotype is everything. instead of looking at the big picture, we prefer to fit everyone from a particular culture together. even if it's totally false or not true to everyone. thus, everyone from the U.K is from "England" (like you said, NOT a country!) and enjoys wearing big hats,drinking tea and singing God save the Queen. It's not only the U.K it's everyone, Asians,Hispanics anyone who isn't American and does things The "right way" The American way. that was actually said by our town's mayor.

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Don't apologize. The rest of the world needs to realize that Hollywood does NOT equal America.

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"When the dad says "You're going to boarding school in ENGLAND" (By the way, England isn't actually a country)"

WTF, of course England is a country. So is Scotland and Wales. The 3 COUNTRIES make up the Union known as Great Britain. Add Northern Ireland and we have another union, the United Kingdom. The bottom line is, England is a country.


"I guess the American viewer is supossed to think "England = crap weather, posh, reserved people who all speak like the Queen"?"

Well, yes, I am English and English weather is absolutely terrible, it hasn't stopped raining for weeks and it is supposed to be summer and I live in the south!

Also, if you are American and rich enough to send your daughter to a boarding school abroad then the students at the school WOULD probably talk like the Queen because you'd obviously be paying a lot of money for a well respected posh boarding school... otherwise, why waste all that money?

"If you really want to know what England's like, This Is England, as has already been suggested, is actually a good dipiction of British youth culture and what has influenced it."

Although it is a good film, it's a poor recommendation. I seriously doubt that any person who has ever attended a boarding school was into Ska or two-tone.

"The upper-class in Britian died out in the 50s."

Are you living in England or another planet? The class system in the UK is just as strong as ever regardless of what New Labour try to tell you.


Also, I don't know why you blame Americans for this image of the UK when our own film makers/writers have been doing exactly the same thing (Four Weddings and a Funeral and just about every Hugh Grant movie) in the name of dollars. Its a great export to the US. I'm all for it. Please come to England and employ our actors, our technicians, pay our taxes etc. Thank you for helping our economy.


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thank you so much for what you just said... it is so annoying when people complain about the same thing THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED ON HERE EARLIER!!!! and isn't Lucy Dahl (the writer of this movie) English?




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So the film is made by an British production company, written by a British woman, directed by a British director, and actor by mostly British actors. BUT IT'S ALL THE AMERICANS' FAULT. Idiocy.

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3 countries??

England, Wales, Scotland and Northan Ireland is three now?

Retard.


Should you read well, you'd notice he said 3 countries (England, Wales and Scotland) form what we know as Great Britain. Apart from that, we include Northern Ireland and it becomes the United Kingdom.

I think the only retard here is the one who didn't read well, the quoted poster.

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WTF, of course England is a country. So is Scotland and Wales. The 3 COUNTRIES make up the Union known as Great Britain. Add Northern Ireland and we have another union, the United Kingdom. The bottom line is, England is a country.
Wrong:http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/englandnot.htm

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Wrong:http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/englandnot.htm
You are the one in the wrong, that page states "England is Not an Independent Country" it does NOT say "England is Not a Country" Independent is the important part. It even talks about England being a country.

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Fair enough


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I've heard about the weather in England. Feel free to stop by Estonia, it's been over 30 degrees for several days and I would just to have some rain. Oh, yes, I would. So much!

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I am sending you a virtual hug and two Latin cheek kisses. I love England but the American hate can be so tiresome. Of all the places in the world, England is the only country I had to explain my culture to or pay the price of a tongue lashing. I just wanted to have fun and spend money. And I loved the dreary fog and rain...I don't get much in California.

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I'm with ya on every point. All the stereotypes, because of our class system, are actually quite accurate. It's probably only London that provides a discord to everywhere else.

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This crappy little film doesn't say much about either British or Americans. According to this film, British kids are posh and straight-laced snots who go to archaic schools run like something from the Victorian age while American kids are braindead, shallow brats with useless parents. I don't know where Dahl has been for the past two decades but British kids are heavily influenced by American trends and are perhaps more brand-obsessed than their American-counterparts. And most private British boarding schools will have pupils from all over the world, including many from the States (more so because there are many American military personnel posted here who will get discounts to send their children to certain boarding schools).

The sad thing is that weaker-minded kids will sit there and watch this, assuming it is an accurate picture of the two countries.


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How is England not a country? Out of everything that has been said, that just stood out. It was a british person who said that as well wasn't it?

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LOL, England's not a country? Where are you from? I really hope it's not England. England IS a country. Duh.

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Heyy hiii!!!!

I think the stereotypes are actually quite balanced...
Let's refer to our T-chart :)

Americans Brits

Fat Posh
Stupid Snobby
Wild Boring
Spoiled Reserved
Uncultured and "Old School"


Oh look at that, we're even!
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^ Yeah but Brits (well the English anyway) are also apparently obsessed with tea and say 'ghastly' all the time .

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we do not say ghastly all the time.lol.we do frink tea a lot though.

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im british, ive lived in england most of my life - albeit i spent 2 years working in the USA. and guess what. everyone is a crackpot

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The film stereotypes Americans just as much as it stereotypes the English so we can't really complain.

And yes, England is a country.

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(By the way, England isn't actually a country)


Oh my god. That is most *beep* stupid thing i have ever heard. You better not be English, because as an English person myself I'm quite speechless that someone thinks England is somehow NOT A COUNTRY!! What crap school did you go to? :-/

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Steriotypes can be funny...but very insulting.
I havn't seen this film, but jdging from the trailer it looks like alot of it is based of steriotype. I went to a British bording school....its nothing like the one shown here!
But im aware some people do speak in RP, and some schools are like the one shown, i just hope Americans (or others) dont actualy believe that all British people speak like the queen and act upper class! In the same way we brits don't actualy believe all Americans are fat, wear shorts and can not count! Neither steriotype is true (there may be true examples), so i just hope neither side is seriously influenced, if you get me.

Oh...and yeah OP...England is a country...And the class system hasn't died down, its just altered.

ps-sorry for bad spelling...i jst cant be bothered tonight!

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By the way, England isn't actually a country

Jesus ****ing christ you're stupid.

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Calm down, the point has been expressed enough.

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What you're referring to is a "state". "Country" and "nation" do not have to follow borders, though are often used in lieu of the proper term. This is generally accepted by everyone except anal retentive a-holes. Oh, dear... did I just insult you? Why, yes, I think I did.

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Nobody's being "led to believe" anything about all British people. If they're stereotyping anything, it's people who go to "well respected schools". If the girl was sent to a boarding school in America that had the same standards, most of the kids would be acting the same way.

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like another person said before on this board, there is as much stereotyping of american Los Angeles girls as there is of British boarding school girls.
plus, the british are always stereotyping. come on, how many times have you heard "Oh, those americans...." The british are always making fun of the "americans" for being stupid and fat and what not..I've seen british comedy, i know how they make fun of the French as well with stereotypes.
and when british people come to america, everyone here loves them (i've seen it first hand with english foreign exchange students)

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I'm Scottish (not English!) and I do like tea (with like half a cup of milk and 4 tea spoons of sugar ) but I'm pretty sure i'd like tea no matter where I lived.

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