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Question about Shot After the Closing Credits


I don't think this is a spoiler. But maybe this scene was in the novel.

If you stayed through the credits there's a scene of a young man and a young woman in a Chanel outfit kissing. The camera pans over to a photo of Igor on the table. Is this supposed to be his daughter grown up? The one who Coco gave a dress to?

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I think it is just a way to show Coco moved on, had other lovers yet kept a picture of Igor on her night stand. Meaning he was special. The sequence before the tittles is unresolved, we do not know if they grew old together, they just seem to remember their romance and their passionate lives. I really enjoyed this beautiful and delicate movie. Very creative!

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i think it's also an echo and variation of the scene before Coco seduces Igor, when she takes the photo of her former lover, Boy, and turns it facedown, to show she has a love even stronger than what she had for Boy. But Igor is too strong a presence in her life, and even though she has other lovers, none of them displace Igor in her heart.

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No, the shot was of her kissing "Boy" again, showing, I think, that he remained the true love of her life, though she kept the photo of Igor. I also thought that the shot was meant to show us what the old Coco was dreaming about.

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I think this is pretty close to it. It's also shown in a sort of sepia-tone (is that the right term?), denoting a certain unreal or memory aspect to it. . . .Anyway, this sequence was another lesson to those idiots who walk out of movies early: STAY THROUGH THE CLOSING CREDITS! That itself may be a sly comment by the filmmakers on those who walked out early from the premiere of "Le Sacre du Printemps'" at the beginning of the film. But I guess many people who attended the film didn't learn their lesson from watching either sequence. . .and they never will, because most of them will never know that there was a scene they missed.

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Do you have certain historical occasions that you think about and wish you had been there? The premier of "Sacre" is one of mine.

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Absolutely agree about wishing I could have been at that one--and the film couldn't even show all the stuff that's supposed to have happened there. I remember reading one person's account of his own experience on that occasion; he said something like this: "The excitement of the man behind me presently manifested itself by his beginning to beat his fists on the top of my head. My own emotions were such that I did not notice the blows for some time."
Also wish I could have been at the premiere of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, or the signing of the Declaration of Indpendence, the Battle of Gettysburg. . .I'm sure we all wish we could have been present for some occasions--especially ones where there's ongoing controversy as to what really took place.

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In addition to witnessing the Rite's premier in 1913, I also wish I could have been at the Prague premier of Don Giovanni and the Vienna premier of The Magic Flute (Die Zauberflöte). Isadora Duncan dancing in Boston on stage in 1924 shouting: "This is red! So am I." For non-musical events: Launch of Apollo 11 in 1969 live at Cape Kennedy; Surrender of Japan on the U. S. S. Missouri, 1945; I, too, would like to have been at Gettysburg in 1863; Brooklyn Bridge dedication in New York, 1883; Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, 1941; Monitor and Merrimack, March 8-9, 1862; and proudly watch Sgt. Alvin C. York in action on Hill 223 near Chatel Chéhéry, France, Oct. 8, 1918.

"Very early in my life it was too late." - Marguerite Duras

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No, the shot was of her kissing "Boy" again, showing, I think, that he remained the true love of her life, though she kept the photo of Igor. I also thought that the shot was meant to show us what the old Coco was dreaming about.

I agree with this. It was the aged Coco recalling her first love.
While her relationship with Stravinsky was momentous, and passionate, he never replaced Boy in her heart.

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I thought it was Coco in the afterlife with Boy. Remember that when we last saw Coco she was a very old woman. The ironic twist is that now it's Igor's photo on her dresser (perhaps implying that Igor is still alive?). She did, in fact predecease Igor by a few months. If called upon to choose one of them with whom to spend eternity, it almost certainly would have been Boy, who was the love of her life.

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I thought that she was canoodling with Boy in that scene. The resemblence between him and Strav was very close (oily hair, pornstache). It made me think that in hooking up with Strav she was really looking for Boy all along, i.e. pretending the composer was really the dead boyfriend.
I don't know, it's just a theory.

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Whatever it's about, it's one thing to hang around several minutes for something vital, but when you still don't know what it's about, what's the point? Most people have gone. The only interesting bits in the credits are the locations, the acknowledgements, and the music - and they're at the end so I usually stay, but it's tedious waiting.

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There is absolutely no proof that Chanel had an affair with Stravinsky, only gossip. He was at her villa for only two months in 1921, the year after Boy Capel was killed, and he left along with his wife and children to tour with the Ballet Russe. He never saw her again although she sent money to support him. His wife lived for 18 more years. He fell in love with a ballet dancer in 1922 and divided his time between her and his wife until his wife's death. Coco was already involved with Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich at this period and then later went on to have a decade long and quite public affair with the Duke of Westminster. If she did have an affair with Stravinsky it was definitely just a passing fling as far as she was concerned. The director says he deliberately made the end mysterious for viewers to work it out for themselves.

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I agree with the previous poster's read of the post-credits scene.

Coco was in heaven; we'd previously seen her old. She was reunited with Boy, and a framed photo of Igor indicated that though he wasn't the love of her life, he was a significant figure who rated a silver frame.

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I thought that she was canoodling with Boy in that scene. The resemblence between him and Strav was very close (oily hair, pornstache).
"Pornstache?"

It made me think that in hooking up with Strav she was really looking for Boy all along, i.e. pretending the composer was really the dead boyfriend. ...

That's bizarre.
Even though we don't get much detail, it's clear that Boy was the major (and possibly the only) love of her life, and that the older Coco is recalling the happiness she had, when Boy was alive, in her younger days. Her relationship with Stravinsky lacked any semblance of the love that she had for Boy, and which he returned. At the most, it was based on power, and sex.

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No it was supposed to be Boy, the two of them were in Heaven together. Aparently thats what Heaven looks like and in Heaven you are allowed to bring photographs of ex-lovers as keepsakes




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Darn! I missed the shot after the closing credits!!!

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